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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22490608 - 11/07/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

honor is honor because it is exactly what is undutiful.

Pris serves duty...not honor.


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22490627 - 11/07/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
so you're giving these guys badges and guns?



that's probably a crime




Not me, society at large.  Not all thugs are given a badge and gun, but many are (like the cop in the original post).  That practice needs to stop before we can get the moral high ground to go after street gangs with guns and no badge.


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22490636 - 11/07/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

the fact pris#1 can in any way suggest that cop was in the right proves for the umpteenth time he's either a troll or seriously deficient and in either case what's the use in even engaging him in argument since everyone knows exactly what he's going to say?


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: DieCommie] * 1
    #22490640 - 11/07/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I dont think she was a thug. I think she was scared. The person who should be charged is whoever made the grave misjudgement of putting her in that position.


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22490646 - 11/07/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
I dont think she was a thug. I think she was scared. The person who should be charged is whoever made the grave misjudgement of putting her in that position.




clearly if you're terrified of an unarmed middle aged guy on the ground being tazed, you got no place being a cop that much is clear


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22490667 - 11/07/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:
I don't. We should be charging cops with their violent crimes.

Hopefully this cop will go down on federal charges or sheekle will take her out with a stuff kick in her lady nuts




you see pretty much anything a cop does as a violent crime, who the fuck is going
to take a job that they know will result in a criminal charge or get them killed
because they were trying to 'act appropriately' based on your views

this particular cop was charged, she did stand trial and a jury of 12 citizens with
no connection to her found her not guilty of any crimes, once more, justice was served.




12 citizens of Dauphin County acquitted the cop.  Why you ask?  Because it could easily be them lying on the ground!!!  Dauphin County is corrupt as all hell and it is no secret!

Here are 2 more recent shootings by police in Dauphin County which are currently awaiting acquittal...
https://dauphin.crimewatchpa.com/da/310/cases/das-office-investigating-hpd-officer-involved-shooting

https://dauphin.crimewatchpa.com/da/310/cases/grand-jury-finds-trooper-justified-w-hanover-shooting

... They are perverts too...
https://dauphin.crimewatchpa.com/da/310/cases/state-supervisor-charged-sex-crimes





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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: koods]
    #22490673 - 11/07/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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What the actual fuck? Jesus Christ. Was he shot by accident?

That looked like a torture film


Just saw in the news this morning that cops in Louisiana shot a six year old kid five times and killed him and he wasnt armed either.




Yeah. "Accidentally" shot... and then accidentally shot in the back again 4 seconds later.


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: Ezuma]
    #22490723 - 11/07/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
Quote:

CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
I dont think she was a thug. I think she was scared. The person who should be charged is whoever made the grave misjudgement of putting her in that position.




clearly if you're terrified of an unarmed middle aged guy on the ground being tazed, you got no place being a cop that much is clear




and this is why they interview people before they get onto the jury.  The cop did not know he was unarmed, every person you encounter is potentially armed, period.  So if it looks like your reaching for a gun, and the cop has tiny balls or no balls, you can't say they weren't fearing for their life.  Dude was acting strange ontop of it, him walking away, needing to be tazed, still walking away, reaching into his coat, turning over, and blasting her isn't very far fetched.  your life is on the line, isn't a youtube video for cops, they don't get to watch the shit over and over and then make the decision.


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: makaveli8x8] * 1
    #22490730 - 11/07/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

With that line of reasoning, everybody being tazed can be legally executed.  In fact, everybody on the street can be legally executed on the spot.  Reaching for a cell phone?  I thought it was a gun.  Twitching from excruciating pain?  I thought he was reaching for a gun.  The bar should not be set that low.


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: DieCommie]
    #22490738 - 11/07/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

it is legal, if you are told not to move, put your hands up, and you reach into your pocket the cop is going to think u have a gun, u deserve to be shot


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22490745 - 11/07/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

also watch that video again, that wasn't a twitch, he deliberately puts his arm under himself, thats not a twitch.  maybe he was having a heart attack, who knows, but his hand wasn't just being thrown randomly


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: makaveli8x8] * 1
    #22490746 - 11/07/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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makaveli8x8 said:
it is legal, if you are told not to move, put your hands up, and you reach into your pocket the cop is going to think u have a gun, u deserve to be shot




That's harsh bro.  I think you are making a classic mistake of confusing "deserve" with "expect".  Maybe you should expect to be shot, but that doesn't mean you deserve to be shot.

What about while being electrocuted in excruciating pain?  Do you still "deserve" to be executed on the spot for an inability to follow order?


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: DieCommie]
    #22490757 - 11/07/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

she stopped tazing, gave orders, he didn't comply, she tazed again.  as someone else mentioned as a joke, he tried to rip the tazer thing out.  thats what i have been saying, we most likly only know a fraction of this story, what i think was happening was he had been refusing her orders for a very long time.  stun gun comes out, taze, pretends to follow order, then doesn't, taze, repeat.


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: makaveli8x8] * 1
    #22490763 - 11/07/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

So refusing orders is grounds for summary execution on the spot with no trial, evidence or conviction?  That is terrible, and ridiculous.  You don't believe in the right to a trial before execution?


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: DieCommie]
    #22490770 - 11/07/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

no i already told u why he was excuted, he grabbed for an imaginary gun.

follow along buddy, that post was to explain his twitching and that he did have the ability to follow orders.  as well as explaining why he was tazed and that fact that she did stop tazing him so he did have a chance to comply with orders many times.


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: makaveli8x8] * 1
    #22490773 - 11/07/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

looked like he had his hands out flailing in pain to me. I mean the guy would have to be a hell of a crack shot to draw a gun roll over and hit his mark with a mag being dumped into him at close range. She could have gave him a final warning telling him he was about to be shot if he didnt comply.


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: makaveli8x8] * 2
    #22490784 - 11/07/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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also watch that video again, that wasn't a twitch, he deliberately puts his arm under himself, thats not a twitch.  maybe he was having a heart attack, who knows, but his hand wasn't just being thrown randomly




You lose all muscle control when you are being electrocuted with 50,000 volts.


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: makaveli8x8] * 1
    #22490785 - 11/07/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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no i already told u why he was excuted, he grabbed for an imaginary gun.

follow along buddy, that post was to explain his twitching and that he did have the ability to follow orders.  as well as explaining why he was tazed and that fact that she did stop tazing him so he did have a chance to comply with orders many times.




Not good enough.  Not even close to good enough to justify shooting him in the back.  Not following orders justifies being charged and put on trial.  Not summary execution.

I think she killed him because she was angry he was not doing exactly what she said quick enough.  It looks like she killed him out of anger.


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: DieCommie]
    #22490811 - 11/07/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

look at 1:07 he has his arm out trying to get up

1:08 he puts his elbow down in a 'crawling' position

1:10 his arm goes further under him and he is not being tazed. full control.

she screams show me your hands, he doesn't, then shoots

screams show me your hands again, i think he says "what the fuck"


shoots.

it wasn't until the second shot that he finally started complying


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Re: Video released of cop shooting unarmed man in the back [Re: DieCommie] * 2
    #22490814 - 11/07/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

if dewd drew a weopon of anykind it wouldnt be a thing. It didnt look like he was doing anything. It looked like she wasnt doing anything to gain control of the situation either she just kinda shot him for no reason.


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