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Psilocybe cyanescens
    #22488223 - 11/06/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have a friend coming over tomorrow to try some Psilocybe cyanescens (dried) she asked for tea, and this will be he r very first mushrooms experience ever...
The question is, how much of a dose should I give her?
I want her to have visual effects but not freak the fuck out lol.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22488323 - 11/06/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Pretty sure dosage advice is against the rules....

But if I was going to go for a minimal trip with some visual effects but minimal mind fuckery I'd probably brew 1-1.5g into tea.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: buddingshroomer]
    #22488403 - 11/06/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you.
I'm fortunate enough to have a nice wilx flush 50 feet from my door! Love the pnw


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22488457 - 11/06/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'd say 1g, if not a bit less, like .75. Cyans are more potent than Cubes, so if you just wanted a light experience, might be a bit better. No one can really say how she will react though, she could be extremely sensitive, or she could barely be affected. Everyone has different body chemistry.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: buddingshroomer]
    #22488485 - 11/06/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Pretty sure dosage advice is against the rules....

But if I was going to go for a minimal trip with some visual effects but minimal mind fuckery I'd probably brew 1-1.5g into tea.




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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22488771 - 11/06/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I would go with a 1 gram trip.

Should be strong enough for her. Visually, its not a lot, but CEVs will be nice.

As stated above, she could be very sensitive, so its always good to start low.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22488799 - 11/06/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

iimo i would go with 1.5-2 gs cyans are no joke. tred with caution


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22489027 - 11/07/15 01:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The on set from drinking it can be pretty overwhelming for a first timer so stick with under a gram for sure, add some crystallized ginger for nausea & taste.  :prance: Have fun!


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Izangi]
    #22489087 - 11/07/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The cyans this year are no joke I just tried 1.5g the other day stronger than an 1/8th of cubes.. go with 1g for a fun time


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22491084 - 11/07/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'd say 1g of dry cyans in a tea would be ideal for a first timer, enough to give them a full on trip, a good idea of what it's like with out throwing em' over the deep end....I wouldn't feel comfortable giving anyone more than that for their first time.


And since it's going to be taken via tea, the "peak" will likely be a little bit stronger than if the 1g was taken by chewing them up...and it's going to come on a whole lot quicker.



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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22491093 - 11/07/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

She's gonna have a blast!
Have some good tunes at the ready in case things go south.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Acaterpillar] * 1
    #22491128 - 11/07/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

How did it go OP?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: SnowDaze]
    #22491146 - 11/07/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i dont think it happened yet.

Just a guess.

Its only been 17 hours...


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22491415 - 11/07/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:standingby:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Psilosoulful] * 1
    #22492055 - 11/07/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I put a dried gram in a grinder and then french press....she just finished the last cup, eyes are dilated and and slight body high she says.

Started drinking it 1hr ago, she wants to up the dose and maybe eat a large fresh cap........should i make her wait for awhile?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: SnowDaze]
    #22492064 - 11/07/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Update on trip


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda] * 1
    #22492108 - 11/07/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

She ate it[url=http://files.shroomery.org/files/15-45/694291862-20151107_163255.jpg][/url


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22492142 - 11/07/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:lol: just eat like 2 or three medium sized fresh mushrooms, should be about a dry gram


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda] * 2
    #22492174 - 11/07/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Please re-post the photo correctly...so I can get a better look at that cleavage. Thanks.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: DavidReishi]
    #22492192 - 11/07/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:ahahaha:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: DavidReishi] * 2
    #22492202 - 11/07/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Better Pic.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22492222 - 11/07/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

+1


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22492304 - 11/07/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: DavidReishi]
    #22492342 - 11/07/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Okay so far she has had 1 dried gram in tea and 3 fresh medium caps.
Shebhad the tea at 3pm Pacific time, and the three caps about 1.5hrs later or 20minutes ago.....she says no visual yet.and other than pupils i would not she was on anything. ....is she freaking supper woman or what?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22492354 - 11/07/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

She says she's got a good body high....but she thinks she may just have a higher tolerability because she smokes weed like crazy. Ill wait some more time and up the dose again... no she says she has the giggles.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22492479 - 11/07/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

If you have more dry specimens and a lemon, how about lemon-tek?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: DavidReishi]
    #22492611 - 11/07/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Just gave her 2.5 grams dry.

Lemon tec?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22492625 - 11/07/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Soak your dry mushrooms in lemon juice for at least 20 minutes, then strain out the particles, and drink up! :awesomenod: :rainbowdrink:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22492629 - 11/07/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

She has had... 1 gram dried, 3 fresh caps, 2.5 grams dried. All in a span of 3.5hrs.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22492646 - 11/07/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ill wait for awhile again. Did I pick the wrong damn shrooms.......


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22492652 - 11/07/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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She has had... 1 gram dried, 3 fresh caps, 2.5 grams dried. All in a span of 3.5hrs.



That's roughly equal to like 4 dried grams, wow, she's gonna be in for some ride!! :tripping:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22492659 - 11/07/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nope those are the right ones. Damn man I ate 2 grams dried my first time trying cyans and they killed me. Is she on any medications


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    #22492671 - 11/07/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

No medication. ..all she has is the giggles and huge pupils.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22492679 - 11/07/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ill keep updating through the night.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22492849 - 11/07/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

And there goes one more large fresh cap.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22492854 - 11/07/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm cutting her off now.
She says the lights are weird.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22492905 - 11/07/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:seriousthumbsup: watch out when you keep eating more and more, you could end up in a bad place


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    #22492925 - 11/07/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

No more for her. She is happy listening to floyd and relaxing, I'm drinking coffee to stay up and be a baby sitter.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22492935 - 11/07/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: egodeathflux]
    #22492985 - 11/07/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

She claims she is inside a bubble and it is refracting light and breathing. Gonna be a long night!


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    #22492991 - 11/07/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

By my calculation she has taken a heroic dose. :smile:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22493029 - 11/07/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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    #22493061 - 11/07/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: DavidReishi]
    #22493157 - 11/07/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I tried to keep it concise, but feel I captured the essence of the situation well.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: DavidReishi] * 1
    #22493340 - 11/07/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Good point.




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    #22493373 - 11/07/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

She says they are awesome and wants more because she claims her hi is fading in and out....she is not sure if she has peaked or not.
I honestly don't know if I should allow her to have more, or if she just has an incredible high tolerance. ...advice please.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22493393 - 11/07/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

How long has it been since she took her dose?

Redosing midtrip is kinda wasteful. U need at least double the initinal dose to get any reaal "boasted" peak. It will make the shroom plataue last longer thou.

She could have a high tolerance, or maybe the tea was not done perfect?

If u have orange juice, u could try the orange tek and soak the cyan powder in OJ for 20min then let her drink that.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22493412 - 11/07/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Psilocybin comes in waves. I'd hold off, explain the wave effect & remind her that she can always take more at a later date.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22493788 - 11/08/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Well she seemed ok so I made her a two large fresh cap lemon tech, and left her on the couch watching the labyrinth.
I'm tired and passing out.
Thanks for everyone's advice, have a good night.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22493799 - 11/08/15 01:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:seriousthumbsup:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Danda]
    #22500620 - 11/09/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I put a dried gram in a grinder and then french press....she just finished the last cup....

Started drinking it 1hr ago....

She says she's got a good body high....but she thinks she may just have a higher tolerability because she smokes weed like crazy.






Some of the things that stand out as possible reasons she seemed to have "relatively mild" effects, at least at first.....First I'll say that smoking a lot of weed will not create a tolerance to psychedelics.




You say she finished the "last cup", as in she was drinking multiple cups of mushroom tea? And your wording sounds like she was drinking it over an hours period of time?

You don't need multiple cups or much water at all to make tea, especially if it's only 1g...all that's needed is like 1/2 a cups worth, less than 8 ounces. When I make my tea, it's literally only 3 drinks or so to get it down and I drink it within a few minutes. If there was so much water used that there was more than one up of tea made, it sounds like it would have been really diluted (though, of course, regardless of how diluted, the actives would still make their way into the body...just not as strongly/quickly).

And if she drank the tea slowly, over an hours period of time, rather than just taking it all in a few drinks within minutes...that will also make for a weaker trip.


And was there any acidity added to the tea when it was made? While a tea can be make with out lowering the ph, it's far more effective to do so. With out adding some lemon juice or a little something to lower the ph, the actives won't make their way into the water as easily and you won't get the full potential of the 1g dose.






How was she feeling later in the trip after you gave her more? What did she think about it after it was all said and done?






-OM

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