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OfflineJozeh
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ID request, Multiple Genus
    #22486929 - 11/06/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Camera died so I'm afraid this is all I have to offer.

1) Small middle, alone
Pileus - Conical, 10mm in width, Grey
Stipe - 1mm width, White
Lamella - Adnexed, dark grey/black
Spore Print - Black
Body Height - 70mm
Ecology - Grass

2) top left three
Pileus - Conical, 30mm in width, Grey (seem to be lightening to buffish)
Stipe - 4mm width, Dark Grey
Lamella - Adnexed, Dark Grey/black
Spore Print - Black
Body Height - 170mm
Ecology - Grass/Dung

3) top right three
Pileus - Arched to Conical, 20mm in width, Buff to Pale brown,
Stipe - 1mm width, Buff to Brown
Lamella - Adnexed, Buff to Brown
Spore Print - Medium Brown
Body Height - 70mm
Ecology - Grass

4) three below
Pileus - Semiglobose, 20mm in width, Buff to Pale Brown,
Stipe - 1mm width, Buff to Brown
Lamella - Adnexed, Brown
Spore Print - Light Brown
Body Height - 70mm
Ecology - Grass

5) right middle eight
Pileus - Arched to Umbonate, 50mm in width, Pale Brown,
Stipe - 5mm width, Turqoise
Lamella - Adnexed, Yellow
Spore Print - White
Body Height - 70mm
Ecology - Grass

6) middle bottom two
Pileus - flat to Umbonate, 60mm in width, Dark Brown,
Stipe - 5mm width, Dark Brown
Lamella - Adnexed, Light Grey
Spore Print - Rusty Light Brown
Body Height - 70mm
Ecology - Grass



Thanks for any help

-Jozeh


Edited by Jozeh (11/06/15 10:20 PM)


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Re: ID request, several species.. [Re: Jozeh]
    #22487071 - 11/06/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The top left 3 COULD be Panaeolus Cyanescens, but that's being optimistic in my opinion. No clue on the others. Wait for a Trusted Identifier as I know nothing for sure about them.


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Re: ID request, several species.. [Re: theshrumnub]
    #22488654 - 11/06/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Camera is still down, will try to take photos tomorrow. So far I am thinking:

1) Maybe young Panaeolus Olivaceus

2) Panaeolus Olivaceus

3)??

4)??

5) Parrot Waxcap

6) ??


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Re: ID request, several species.. [Re: Jozeh]
    #22488707 - 11/06/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

welcome to the forum jozeh

you don't have any active mushrooms there imo

good job on trying to ID them yourself but beware of telling yourself you're seeing characteristics which are not really there

the top left brownish ones are not libs, they may be conycbe which are toxic so proceed with caution, but they could be harmless panaeolina and i don't see anything i'd think was a panaeolus.

i see mycena, for the most part on the upper right

you're probably right about the hygrocybe on lower right

keep looking and keep keyin'


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Re: ID request, several species.. [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #22488731 - 11/06/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks, I try to look for reasons to discredit my hopeful id'ing of actives for that exact reason. Seems I overlooked the purplish spore print of the libs.

Why do you think 2 is not Panaeolus?


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Re: ID request, Multiple Genus [Re: Jozeh]
    #22488907 - 11/06/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

1) http://www.mushroomexpert.com/parasola_conopilus.html
2) Panaeolus papilionaceus
3) Conocybe tenera group
4) Mycena
5) Hygrocybe conica group
6) Entoloma subgenus Nolanea


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Re: ID request, Multiple Genus [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #22488982 - 11/07/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
1) http://www.mushroomexpert.com/parasola_conopilus.html
2) Panaeolus papilionaceus
3) Conocybe tenera group
4) Mycena
5) Hygrocybe conica group
6) Entoloma subgenus Nolanea




2) does the more conical shaped pileus suggest papillionaceus over olivaceus?

5) can I ask why you have decided on Hygrocybe Conica rather than Gliophorus Psittacinus (formerly Hygrocybe psittacina) ?

thanks

-Jozeh


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Re: ID request, Multiple Genus [Re: Jozeh]
    #22489314 - 11/07/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Jozeh said:
2) does the more conical shaped pileus suggest papillionaceus over olivaceus?

5) can I ask why you have decided on Hygrocybe Conica rather than Gliophorus Psittacinus (formerly Hygrocybe psittacina) ?

thanks

-Jozeh





2) No, but the overall look is like Panaeolus papilionacus.

5) Looks like it wants to stain black, but if not then G. psittacinus is a good guess.


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Re: ID request, Multiple Genus [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #22489520 - 11/07/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

lbms are a bitch

thanks alan


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Re: ID request, Multiple Genus [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #22491062 - 11/07/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
Quote:

Jozeh said:
2) does the more conical shaped pileus suggest papillionaceus over olivaceus?

5) can I ask why you have decided on Hygrocybe Conica rather than Gliophorus Psittacinus (formerly Hygrocybe psittacina) ?

thanks

-Jozeh





2) No, but the overall look is like Panaeolus papilionacus.

5) Looks like it wants to stain black, but if not then G. psittacinus is a good guess.





2) Panaeolus papilionaceus var. parvisporus possibly, due to lack of veil remnants?

5) G.psittacinus, then due to the white spore print.


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Re: ID request, Multiple Genus [Re: Jozeh]
    #22493120 - 11/07/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Here is a close up of the pileus of #2



bearing in mind this has been sat out ~ 24 hours, so it has shrunk and dried, However the colour hasn't returned to the buff brownish of most panaeolus that I was expecting.


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Re: ID request, Multiple Genus [Re: Jozeh]
    #22494588 - 11/08/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: ID request, Multiple Genus [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #22494615 - 11/08/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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RuralAnomaly said:
here's your next step :rofl:https://www.google.com/search?q=panaeolus+spores&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CDIQsARqFQoTCKH80cWKgckCFYYkJgodbgoLUA&biw=1002&bih=474




Came to that conclusion while trying to ID them first time round. Been searching high and low for my old microscope.

In the meantime I might try my hand at cultivating them, gaining an understanding of mushroom cultivation and hopefully ID'ing them in the process.


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Re: ID request, Multiple Genus [Re: Jozeh]
    #22494636 - 11/08/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

if you can't find it, and have a month's cable and phone bills' worth of disposable income you can get a new scope.

the prices have really come down.  i think alan usually recommends a binocular scope for ease of use but you can get something 'gude enuf' for just over a hundred

if my life ever gets less chaotic, i would like to try growing something too. seems fun.  maybe not those panaeolus lol


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