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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22580496 - 11/27/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm according to the tek he says 1inch above water level and that is 1inch above water level.
But i totally get what you mean i also think its very high up thats why i asked.
So if it where up to you!
You would drill the hole with the holesaw where the tape is?


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: shootoox]
    #22580588 - 11/27/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Youll be fine with holes 4 inches up. I use the generic sterilite 66qt  holes 7 inches from the sides and 8 inches from each other, 4 inches up from bottom.  1.5" holes is standard all around the tub.

You want to do the measurements and mark them. The bottom of your  hole saw will hit the 4" up + side marks..

Make sure you use lighter polyfill on the top holes. bottom stuffed pretty tight.


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22580630 - 11/27/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have done the measurments as you can see in the picture i have posted :smile:
The "top" of the tape is 4inches from the bottom and of the tub.
And i have measure 1inch from the toptape but i think it was way to high.
Maybe it will be better if i take the bottom of the holesaw and drill it at top of my tape?


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: shootoox]
    #22580637 - 11/27/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

take the tape off and just mark 4" with a sharpie, put the bottom of your hole saw on that mark when drilling.

And yes, the hole marks are too high


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22580649 - 11/27/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Okey thank you very much <3


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: shootoox]
    #22580661 - 11/27/15 01:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have really tried finding a good WBS bag but all i find either cointans hemp seeds or only sunflower, wheat and oat.
I was wondering if its possible to go with whole grains?

I live in europe and many stuffs is kinda hard to find :/


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: shootoox]
    #22581262 - 11/27/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

People use whole oats for bulk spawn all the time....Whole Oats Prep Tek

Easier than WBS in many people opinion....hope this helps.


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22581363 - 11/27/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hey I know its been 2 weeks since that post but I have a PC similiar to what you are using. I found that the increased cooking time and the small size of the PC made it impossible to sterilise grains well. If I fill it with less water it ends up running dry and a little more, water comes out of the valve when the pressure is being released. Not to mention since its so small water would just end up going inside my jar.

There was no way around it for me. I just had to import a presto 23. Cost a bit but man I love it. Would have bought the AA if the shipping wasn't through the roof cos of the extra weight.

Today I just saw this 18l sterilisers they sell In the UK on ebay. Costs a bit more than the presto but with the much cheaper shipping it ends up costing less. Plus its stainless steel so its very strong. Also its an actual steriliser so it goes up to 20 psi no problem. I still would have bought the presto if I knew about them before though. Its bigger and 15psi is sufficient for grains. The steriliser has this lip going in where the lid is secured so that might be uncomfortable. Might wanna check them out if you live in the EU though. See which you like best.


Also I hope this aint too late but I would use a solder instead of a drilling piece for the tub. I always end up cracking it but maybe its just cos im a bit of a savage. :lmafo:


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #22584079 - 11/27/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Does your hole saw haave a drill it in the middle? Im assuming, but if not, find one that does as it makes it 100000000000x easier.

And if you crack it that's ok, just make a clean hole after that, after all, its going to be taped anyways.


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22584186 - 11/27/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

If you don't have a good hole saw, you can use a soldering iron or heat gun + exacto knife to make the holes very easily as well. Even if you have a hole saw, running a hair dryer or heat gun on low over the plastic for a few seconds will make it easier to cut and far less likely to crack.


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: Shabs]
    #22584833 - 11/28/15 02:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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If you don't have a good hole saw, you can use a soldering iron or heat gun + exacto knife to make the holes very easily as well. Even if you have a hole saw, running a hair dryer or heat gun on low over the plastic for a few seconds will make it easier to cut and far less likely to crack.




That's some good advice! Ill definitely give it a go if I ever don't have a solder on hand.


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #22593081 - 11/30/15 01:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey I know its been 2 weeks since that post but I have a PC similiar to what you are using. I found that the increased cooking time and the small size of the PC made it impossible to sterilise grains well. If I fill it with less water it ends up running dry and a little more, water comes out of the valve when the pressure is being released. Not to mention since its so small water would just end up going inside my jar.

There was no way around it for me. I just had to import a presto 23. Cost a bit but man I love it. Would have bought the AA if the shipping wasn't through the roof cos of the extra weight.

Today I just saw this 18l sterilisers they sell In the UK on ebay. Costs a bit more than the presto but with the much cheaper shipping it ends up costing less. Plus its stainless steel so its very strong. Also its an actual steriliser so it goes up to 20 psi no problem. I still would have bought the presto if I knew about them before though. Its bigger and 15psi is sufficient for grains. The steriliser has this lip going in where the lid is secured so that might be uncomfortable. Might wanna check them out if you live in the EU though. See which you like best.


Also I hope this aint too late but I would use a solder instead of a drilling piece for the tub. I always end up cracking it but maybe its just cos im a bit of a savage. :lmafo:




Thank you for your advice <3
Nothing is to late since i havent started it yet i have order some rye berries so waiting for them.
Regarding the PC i really dont want to order a new one.
I dont use it in the kitchen for food cause iam lazy and dont know any recipes probably..
And for mushroom i just want a little hobby by the side so i dont need to grow much hehe.


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: shootoox]
    #22593754 - 11/30/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The main problem for me was not the quantity of jars, it was the proper sterilisation of grains. If you don't have contam issues and you're happy with the amount of jars you can make I guess its ok to keep using it.


Just keep an eye out for contams even after full colonisation. Contams have a habit of spreading after you spawn them to tubs making you blame the bulk or casing when it probably originated from the grains.

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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #22628630 - 12/08/15 03:25 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Just an update for you guys.
I have everything needed now =) i found a local farmer that sold some nice eco rye berries, 15kg for 10euro.
The only thing that stop me atm is the pressure cooker but i will try anyway and cross my fingers.
My GF is at my place now so i will not start it up yet but soon enough and then i will make a thread with pictures and stuff =)


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: shootoox]
    #22630019 - 12/08/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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15kg for 10euro.





Thats lucky xD. We don't get rye where I live. We get oats though so thats alright.

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The only thing that stop me atm is the pressure cooker but i will try anyway and cross my fingers.





By this you mean you're gonna sterilise them with boiling like they do PF tek? If so you're in for a nasty suprise, I doubt you'll kill all the endospores that way.


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #22633704 - 12/09/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Well since my PC only can reach 7.5-8 PSI i dont have any option.
I will try to cook it longer and we will se if it works or not.
Have seen other people on the board with sucess, if u dont try u dont know.

The best option would be to have a 15psi cooker but cant get it now like you know =)


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Re: Bulk spawn with monotub, need answers. [Re: shootoox]
    #22955404 - 02/28/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I have tried now and got a problem.
Only problem (well kinda big problem) is that my PC only can go up to 7-8PSI. I still did 8jars but i raised the time to about 2.30H so we will se if it is a success or not.
The jars have now been in my plastic tub for about 16days i think.

I just checked them for the first time but the only growth i saw was some grains with white fluffy on it in some jars.
They are far away for being 25% growth we are talking maybe 5% here.
I dont know if it works but i see no signs of bacteria what so ever but the mycelium spreads so bad :rolleyes:

Frank says "After 5-7 days you should see some growth. Keep waiting."

I have time its not that but since i do not have 15psi PC iam a bit excited to see if it works hehe.
And it seems like it doesnt works as intended what do you guys think could have happend?


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