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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #22492587 - 11/07/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yes it is more ergonomic. But you still can't be sloppy with procedure. An SAB is pretty forgiving.

You rocking a hood now tiger?


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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22492615 - 11/07/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm seems like it was hard for you judging from the pic :rofl2:

Nah didnt say it was hard to make. Its hard to work in. Not everything mind you but for example making a transfer off a bacteria contaminated plate is hard to see. I end up peeking through the arm holes holding my breath lol.


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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22492633 - 11/07/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm still waiting for the research to come back on a shmuvbox effectiveness before I pay $400 for a blower behind a HEPA filter.  If I go for a hood it's going to be actual laminar-flow and I'm going to have a dedicated room to put it in. (This might actually be happening soon :wink:)

I've been using the shmuv for a year now. Lately, I have not had contamination that I can't explain through my own technique.

You can't just keep adding fractions upon fractions of slightly-more clean air to hope it will protect you from your own sloppy human hands. 

Technique is everything.


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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22492712 - 11/07/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hey tiger I'm working on an addition to the tiger drop that I think you will like. Like tiger drop with a precision shotgun :wink:


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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22492805 - 11/07/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey tiger I'm working on an addition to the tiger drop that I think you will like. Like tiger drop with a precision shotgun :wink:




Can't wait to see the tek! :solidnod:


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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22492894 - 11/07/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I did my first sixth months of grows in this.



What is so hard about making a box with holes? :noyoudidawet:



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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22492954 - 11/07/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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LocN9ne said:
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elasticaltiger said:
I did my first sixth months of grows in this.



What is so hard about making a box with holes? :noyoudidawet:



It's beautiful.




Yah the hole on the right looks like a ducks head from birds eye view lol.

Luckily I used a big metal can to burn holes in mine before I learned how brittle these plastic boxes are whilst doing sgfc. Ended up using solder on that one too.


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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #22493427 - 11/07/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Supalemonhaze said:
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LocN9ne said:
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elasticaltiger said:
I did my first sixth months of grows in this.



What is so hard about making a box with holes? :noyoudidawet:



It's beautiful.




Yah the hole on the right looks like a ducks head from birds eye view lol.

Luckily I used a big metal can to burn holes in mine before I learned how brittle these plastic boxes are whilst doing sgfc. Ended up using solder on that one too.




The one time I used a can on a stove to burn a hole in things I can honestly say it was one of the worst mycology decisions I ever made.

I knew there would be fumes of plastic smoke so I set a the 105qt tote right next to the open screen door (completely open).

The cloud of plastic fumes that ensued made me cough.  Then it set off the smoke alarm in three bedrooms.  I have never coughed so hard while getting all my smoke detectors to shut up. 

I don't know what I did wrong but the reaction between the hot metal and the sterilite tub was on par for the most cancer-ous causing moment of my  life.  I've gotten a CT scan of my lungs (with my obama care) every six months since then. I said that lung cancer ran in my family(it does) and explained my history of smoking. I needed it as 'preventative care'.  Insurance companies will gladly pay a thousand dollars now if it will save them 20,000 dollars in the next 10 years.

The point of the story is I will happily get a sore arm from hacking at a clear tote with a steak knife for an hour before I ever burn a hole in a tote.

Also if you're going to do the hole burning method take the entire project completely outside because you will get cancer if you don't. Something tells me Supalemonhaze's experience was positive so he probably did it outside.

Also Supalemonhaze! SAB's are annoying to work in! :nodofunderstanding:

Behold! My Burnt-hole SAB became a cat-fortress!



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First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber

The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it :shrug:

Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)

Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen

Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson

EZEKIEL 23:20


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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22493519 - 11/07/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Guilty. I just do it open air in the corner of my kitchen after I clean everything. Works pretty good, maybe 95% of the time..

:shrug: :crosses fingers:


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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: Diamonds808]
    #22493541 - 11/07/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I used to g2g and shit in open air. I don't think inoculation is so bad in open air.. But IMO what's the point if its so easy to make, and work in a sab (very clean environment too). But anything like g2g, lcs, and agar should definitely be done in a sab.


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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: Mad Season]
    #22493579 - 11/07/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

SAB's :haha:


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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: azur]
    #22493598 - 11/07/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)



:lol:

You can't say that shit until next week when I pick up that hood you turned me onto...


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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: Diamonds808]
    #22493643 - 11/08/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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elasticaltiger said:
Quote:

Supalemonhaze said:
Quote:

LocN9ne said:
Quote:

elasticaltiger said:
I did my first sixth months of grows in this.



What is so hard about making a box with holes? :noyoudidawet:



It's beautiful.




Yah the hole on the right looks like a ducks head from birds eye view lol.

Luckily I used a big metal can to burn holes in mine before I learned how brittle these plastic boxes are whilst doing sgfc. Ended up using solder on that one too.




The one time I used a can on a stove to burn a hole in things I can honestly say it was one of the worst mycology decisions I ever made.

I knew there would be fumes of plastic smoke so I set a the 105qt tote right next to the open screen door (completely open).

The cloud of plastic fumes that ensued made me cough.  Then it set off the smoke alarm in three bedrooms.  I have never coughed so hard while getting all my smoke detectors to shut up. 

I don't know what I did wrong but the reaction between the hot metal and the sterilite tub was on par for the most cancer-ous causing moment of my  life.  I've gotten a CT scan of my lungs (with my obama care) every six months since then. I said that lung cancer ran in my family(it does) and explained my history of smoking. I needed it as 'preventative care'.  Insurance companies will gladly pay a thousand dollars now if it will save them 20,000 dollars in the next 10 years.

The point of the story is I will happily get a sore arm from hacking at a clear tote with a steak knife for an hour before I ever burn a hole in a tote.

Also if you're going to do the hole burning method take the entire project completely outside because you will get cancer if you don't. Something tells me Supalemonhaze's experience was positive so he probably did it outside.

Also Supalemonhaze! SAB's are annoying to work in! :nodofunderstanding:

Behold! My Burnt-hole SAB became a cat-fortress!







Lmao loving the cat hideout. I did mine in the garage. It has a pretty high roof and a powerful extractor fan so the fumes didn't really overwhelm me. Didn't use the fan while doig SAB though that took 5 minutes so it didn't bother me enough to switch it on. Now the SGFC on the other hand. Now that took a long ass time of inhaling plastic  before I was done so I used all the help I could get :rofl2:.

I wouldn't worry that much about lung cancer from your one time experience with burning plastic. I used to hang out with a friend of mine to help him while he was working (self employed tow truck driver). He would tear all the wires from cars before he sold them for scrap and when he got a good bunch of it he would burn them to get the copper. I never got to checking for any kind of cancer but I don't think cancer is caused so quickly by something unless its like radiation. Im still in my early 20's though so I guess older people especially those that smoke would have a better chance of something going wrong. I would worry more with cigarettes than plastic from your one endeavour. I smoke also so im the last person to give advice about them. Never really managed to quit. Don't think I wanted to quit even when I tried if that makes any sense.

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Guilty. I just do it open air in the corner of my kitchen after I clean everything. Works pretty good, maybe 95% of the time..

:shrug: :crosses fingers:




Hah. Thank you for sharing this. Seems like I have someone who can confirm what I told this guy

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No, you are wrong, and you're ignorance is detrimental to noobs who might be reading it. For the lazy noob open air inoculations will work on BRF cakes, but this is only because BRF cakes have a dry layer of verm inside the jar that serves as a filter. It is ridiculous to say that 26 jars will fully colonize after being inoculated in open air. This would never happen, one should expect a >90% contam rate when inoculating in open air.




Said guy just wouldn't listen when I told him its the other way around if you are careful enough. He barely believed that my jars are actually real. Although later he apologised for talking the way he did (so it's all cool now) but I got the feeling that he still thinks open air inoculations are doomed to fail. Honestly I dunno where he got that ratio from. One thing I definitely do not do is swear on something I have no experience in. Even if I know it is right. I still say I never tried it or have a lack of experience in it. How can you be sure of something you never done?

Yeah Mad Season, hopefully now I can get the biggest box in the store and be able to do everything in it including as azur would say it " you could fuck a hooker in it" or something more decorated. :ahahaha:. Too bad it's sunday I would go get it right now.


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Re: Are Newbs Not Using SABs? [Re: Srirachi]
    #22494432 - 11/08/15 06:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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:lol:

You can't say that shit until next week when I pick up that hood you turned me onto...



Oh man. I bet you're fucking excited


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