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How often are pesticides in weed?
    #22485724 - 11/06/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Just began to wonder this.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: trees]
    #22485734 - 11/06/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

So far as I know the only pesticides in weed come from the soil and the water. Weed isn't sprayed like commercial foods.

I'd use organic soil myself. Makes the weed more potent


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: trees]
    #22485763 - 11/06/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It depends on the grower. The growers I know use lower toxicity and organic pesticides, but you never know if you don't know the grower. Spider mites and powdery mildew are both common problems on indoor and budworms are a common problem on outdoor.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 2
    #22485807 - 11/06/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So far as I know the only pesticides in weed come from the soil and the water. Weed isn't sprayed like commercial foods.

I'd use organic soil myself. Makes the weed more potent




Where are you getting your info? Unless you want bud full of spider mites or some shit, there's gonna be some pesticides.

And "organic soil" has nothing to do with it.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22485814 - 11/06/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Pesticides not so much. Miticides, tons. Growers are lazy, I used to work at a grow shop and there are multiple miticides that are only safe to use in vegetative because of its nuero toxicity. As many people as I give this warning to many don't follow it because they have a heavy infestation in flowering and don't want to lose the harvest because there greedy. Not only is there miticides with high toxicity that your only supposed to use in veg but people use in flower, you also have to worry about fungicides. If you don't believe me look up the chemicals Avid, Forbid, and Eagle20.

Do yourself a favor, grow your own or start buying very high grade locally grown marijuana. Not all local grown is the best but if its a small grow op there less likely to use harsh chemicals. You don't even want to know what’s on mids.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22485815 - 11/06/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Idk any grower that actually uses pesticides.

If you have powdery mildew, you're fucked.  Practically have to restart and sterilize everything.

If they're organic and didn't have to be used during flower, only veg, then I wouldn't care.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: trees]
    #22485833 - 11/06/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

how often?  more often than you might think.
virtually any grower will spray his shit to prevent a big crop loss.  its just too much money to lose for most growers


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: Herbologist]
    #22486038 - 11/06/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Idk any grower that actually uses pesticides.

If you have powdery mildew, you're fucked.  Practically have to restart and sterilize everything.

If they're organic and didn't have to be used during flower, only veg, then I wouldn't care.




Just threw out 3 plants because of this. They were put too close together. I use orgsnice pesticides that contain plant soaps that are anti fungal and anti pest. Also use baking soda in a spray bottle for mold. I think I pretty much cleared tthe problem but it was abitch and a half and I could be wrong and it could totally come back.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: Everything] * 1
    #22486041 - 11/06/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Probably need more vigorous air circulation


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22486049 - 11/06/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Probably need more vigorous air circulation




Like he said you probably need more air circulation and I would go out on a limb to say that your humidity is probably above 50%. When using the device to read humidity make sure its at plant level and not weigh above them. You want to know the conditions of the plants themselves not where your lights are.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22486059 - 11/06/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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It depends on the grower. The growers I know use lower toxicity and organic pesticides, but you never know if you don't know the grower. Spider mites and powdery mildew are both common problems on indoor and budworms are a common problem on outdoor.



I'm curious as to how many people have encountered bud worms, and if they've smoked them. I've found mights a couple times, but worms may as well be an urban legend to me.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: LuSiD enthusiast] * 1
    #22486069 - 11/06/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I wish I could say the same. They are terrible for outdoor growers here. I always remove the browned out parts of the buds so I don't smoke them.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22486093 - 11/06/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

My last crop was almost completely destroyed by worms. Started with a little under ifty. Wound up with 3.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: puff4200]
    #22486457 - 11/06/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Everything said:
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Herbologist said:
Idk any grower that actually uses pesticides.

If you have powdery mildew, you're fucked.  Practically have to restart and sterilize everything.

If they're organic and didn't have to be used during flower, only veg, then I wouldn't care.




Just threw out 3 plants because of this. They were put too close together. I use orgsnice pesticides that contain plant soaps that are anti fungal and anti pest. Also use baking soda in a spray bottle for mold. I think I pretty much cleared tthe problem but it was abitch and a half and I could be wrong and it could totally come back.





The problem is.. Did you take everything out and sterilize your growing area?

One thing I've learned is powder mildew is never truly gone until you harvest/throw away your current plants AND sterilize EVERYTHING.  Your other option is keeping it at bay minimally until you can harvest.  I was able to do that only once, though.

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Probably need more vigorous air circulation




Like he said you probably need more air circulation and I would go out on a limb to say that your humidity is probably above 50%. When using the device to read humidity make sure its at plant level and not weigh above them. You want to know the conditions of the plants themselves not where your lights are.





Another problem is depending on where he received his plants, he may have picked one up that was already infected.  That is what happened to me.  Someone sold me a clone infected by mildew and I had no idea until it was too late.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: Herbologist]
    #22486600 - 11/06/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You bring up a good point which created a standard rule. Isolate any plants coming into your garden. I'm not talking just away from the other plants, I'm saying a whole different room. I also always treat my plants with a strong miticide after bringing in any new plants. If i find that I brought something in that is infected with PM then I just trash it. Not worth dealing with and sticks on the plant more than anyone would know even if its not visible any more.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: puff4200]
    #22486829 - 11/06/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Id say up to 90% of dispensaries in Colorado are using azadirachtin aka Azamax, Azafuard etc. The problem is that there is a huge difference between an organic-soap pesticide and an organic derived pesticide.
It's easy for the "Borg" (aka spider mites) to develop resistance to this stuff. F.E. a grower will spray thier crop and see that it kills them off and think "oh this shit is great". Problem is they only kill 99% and the 1% that remains has a mutation that makes it impossible to kill them with the stuff.
When the mite population explodes again growers think they just need to use more.
Problem with that is with a concentrated product your already using 10-100X what is necessary to get the job done. Then it gets into the surrounding environment and kills off ALL insects, ladybugs, butterflies, praying manti, bees. Doesn't matter if it's a good bug or not it's dead.

I'm dead convinced its a direct cause of the recent bee population decline. Don't really have the resource to prove it. It's a really shitty Catch 22, and with so many states going legal/medical the problem is only going to get worse. The shits already banned in the UK; but who knows what it would take to get that done here.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22486879 - 11/06/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So far as I know the only pesticides in weed come from the soil and the water. Weed isn't sprayed like commercial foods.

I'd use organic soil myself. Makes the weed more potent





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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #22486890 - 11/06/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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It depends on the grower. The growers I know use lower toxicity and organic pesticides, but you never know if you don't know the grower. Spider mites and powdery mildew are both common problems on indoor and budworms are a common problem on outdoor.



I'm curious as to how many people have encountered bud worms, and if they've smoked them. I've found mights a couple times, but worms may as well be an urban legend to me.




I have. Couldn't even see them until I harvested they really chowed through some of my colas from the inside.

And yeah I used azamax amongst other things. It's not cheap but works good. It's a lot easier to prevent infestations than stop them so hopefully most commercial growers prevent them with less toxic fungicides and incesticides rather than wait for it to become infested and freak out and use the strong shit as an attempt to salvage their crop.

I was always worried about  chemicals in the brick weed I got because I seriously doubt the cartels give a single fuck about anything other than how strong and cheap the incesticides are.


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22487007 - 11/06/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

http://organiccontrol.com/product/trichogramma/

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Trichogramma is an effective destroyer of caterpillars (which are leaf eaters in the larvae stage) and moth eggs. Some of the moth eggs attacked by the Trichogramma are: bollworms, tobacco budworm, codling moth, corn earworm, alfalfa caterpillar, gypsy moth, cutworm and tomato hornworms. Trichogramma are tiny parasites that lay their eggs inside the caterpillar or moth eggs. They hatch and feed on the pest eggs, killing them. Then they emerge as adults to continue the cycle. Each container includes 4,000 eggs.






http://organiccontrol.com/product/predatory-mites/

Edit: Compost tea has bacteria that will knock out powdery mildew


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Re: How often are pesticides in weed? [Re: trees]
    #22487177 - 11/06/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

TLDR
I'm sure it's been said but; only shitty growers need/use pesticides. And only shittier growers leave them in the weed.

I've been growing weed and other plants for many many years and have never used a pesticide.


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