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Stevefrench
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Strain selection
#22484461 - 11/06/15 05:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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While I am more than pleased with the golden teacher I have especially potency. Im looking for a different strain to play with. Something with stronger and faster mycelial traits preferably ( golden teacher mycelium is kind of picky and slow , it doesnt like to be shaken ) any reccomendations?
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Machiavelliavore
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a) Read the rules: this belongs in strain thread
b) GT is pretty typical for a cube afaik. Doesn't like to be shaken/picky/slow sounds more like a contaminant than a mycellial trait. I'm sure you can isolate something that does what you want from GT, which has been selectively bred for cultivation for a long time.
c) Of the strains I've had, RedBoy has been pretty awesome compared to the other. Typical isolates haven't been especially fast though.
Anyway, sometimes a different spore print may just give you all around better results. What name will be on the sporeprint that gives you better results is hard to say. Just get something else and try it. If you aren't isolating, domesticated strains would probably be preferable. Maybe try something from a different continent. GT is from North America I think.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
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Stevefrench
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I just seen that now sorry moderators please delete this thread
Seems to not be contams or moisture issues or any other factors and i dont mean extremely slow or picky just seems more so than other strains. Took new spore prints and three tissue cuttings in attemp to isolate a strain from this gt
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Machiavelliavore
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Kinda sounds like you might have some sneaky bacteria or very low percentage mold following you through g2g's or in your syringe. This happened to me when I started and I attributed it to weak genetics/postal tyvek when it was probably grass seed that I didn't PC long enough and possibly a bit of mold from shitty sterile technique.
PC your grains at least 90 minutes + drop spores on agar first and I think there's a good chance you'll see more vigorous growth.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
Edited by Machiavelliavore (11/06/15 05:36 AM)
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Stevefrench
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Thanks for the tip. Im gonna make a few new "master cultures" I suppose just to be sure
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Stevefrench
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Im gonna make a few new LCs (hopefully the three i put a tissue clone in turned out) im gonna make a syringe from one of my spore prints and try to do straight inoculation from the other print. Also im Gonna powderize WBS in a blender , put thin layer on the bottom of a 125ml jar and attempt to use it sort of like agar. Im sure ill figure it out soon enough
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Machiavelliavore
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If you can't get agar for whatever reason try this: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22252599/fpart/all/vc/1
Drop spores and perhaps make a single transfer. Never put your hands above the plate in the airbox, #1 rule. Sterilize your tools in the PC if possible as well. Kitchen utensils can be suprisingly effective.
If you're using LC's from tissue samples or spore syringe there's a good chance there's some dirt following you around.
Can't stress enough how important it is that you know your cultures are clean if you're going to try and expand them to a high nutrition medium. If they aren't it can lead to a whole train of bad assumptions,poor descisions, and wasted time.
Telephone brand agar powder is like $3 for enough for 150 plates off amazon.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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DrCrumbs
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It may also just feel slow compared to some of the results being posted here.
GT is pretty awesome. I would also recommend trying some different mediums with different moisture levels to get it going faster.
I would go to Pes Amazon next, and/or A+; B+ is pretty neat too. It nice to grow them side by side; but like stated above a new print and/or isolate can be very different as well.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Strain selection [Re: DrCrumbs]
#22484591 - 11/06/15 06:38 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The "variety" has nearly 0 to do with the things you want. "Strain" has everything to do with what you want. Gt is a variety. The variety can make infinitely many strains. Any two compatible spores = strain. You have 100s of strains in a single grow if you started with spores. Some strains are fast, potent, etc... Some are not. GT has the exact same capabilities as any other variety to have a fast potent strain you just have to find those strains. Picking a new.variety won't help you any unless by random chance things go a little better and you mistakenly attribute it to a new syringe
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Well this is politically correct way to view things and is very pushed on this site (I feel like it was to combat crazy vendor's pushing things at high prizes that didnt make any sense). Also the correct terminology.
I've found that certain var. have been bread (and also from geo isolation) to produce dominant traits such as color, shape, yield, in a few cases possibly potency, etc.
Edit: I also feel that more popular strains at the height of their popularity perform the best. I think this has a lot to do with the viability of the spores. Everyone's buying/trading them and they are being actively studied, cultivated and bread. Resulting in prints that are a few months old opposed to a few years.
But yeah it's really hard to fail with anything. Try a few and find one that works well for you. There's not really any silver bullet.
Edited by DrCrumbs (11/06/15 07:07 AM)
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Stevefrench
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Re: Strain selection [Re: DrCrumbs]
#22484693 - 11/06/15 07:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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My master culture #1 is still clean , opened the jars that seemed rather slow and stalled . Seems to be a contamination from the smell (most of my stuff is clean but the super stalled jars makes me think LC#3 became contamed. Thanks fer the advice guys. ) this said the strain i got has some characteristics described but is great. Got fresh prints im gonna use today and it seems master culture#1 is still good im gonna expand that too and do what I can till agar gets here . Just looked at incubator got some spawn thats pretty much doone more fruits on the way soon
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DrCrumbs
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Cool!
What are you incubating at? This could be helping aid the contamination.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Strain selection [Re: DrCrumbs]
#22484705 - 11/06/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some varieties may have tendencies yes. The only varieties that are well known to be more potent are ksss and pe. They're also both mutant varieties. A little bit different things going on
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Stevefrench
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Incubation temp is about 72-80F
Thanks again guys all the peace and love
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bodhisatta 
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Should be 68-75
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All the potent shrooms seem to come from Thailand area. Ime TLY blew every other cube I've ever grown out of the water. Ksss is Asian too. People suspect pe was Amazonian tho..
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