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This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru)
    #22484293 - 11/06/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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In the latest round of crazy fast food stories, a drive-thru employee at a Minneapolis McDonald’s was seen throwing blows with a disgruntled customer who allegedly started the altercation due to slow service.

On Tuesday, Bernard Robinson III, a McDonald’s manager, was working an overnight shift when a drive-thru cashier --who hasn't been named -- asked for change for his $3 order after paying with a $100 bill. Robinson returned to the window with change but then things got ugly. 

“I guess the guy was ticked that it took so long,” Robinson told the Minnesota Star Tribune. “He was blabbing, and the change was dropping out of his hand.”

Gabe Hart, the customer who pulled up behind the aggressive customer, filmed a video of the incident as it unfolded.

“At first I was annoyed the guy in front of me was taking so long,” Hart posted on LiveLeak. “He seemed pretty upset to begin with, but it looked like when the McDonald’s guy handed him his cash and change back he dropped some of the dude’s change. That’s when he got out of his car, spit on the drive-through window and tried to punch the McDonald’s [worker] and that’s when I started recording.”

In the video, Robinson (in blue) is seen reaching out of the drive-thru window while punching the customer several times. The customer also tries to land some blows before attempting to drag the McDonald’s manager out of the window, and is seen pulling on Robinson’s tie.

“He grabbed my tie, and he’s trying to get me out of the window. He was choking me. … I was fighting for my life,” Robinson said.

Various voices in the background are heard screaming and one threatens to call the police. According to the StarTribune, law enforcement arrested the 31-year old customer, cited him for misdemeanor assault and then released him.

Hart’s video has racked up almost 180,000 views in two days.

Robinson said that he was suffering from bruises on his neck but has not sought medical attention.



http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/11/05/mcdonalds-drive-thru-fight-caught-on-camera/


Easily one of the most hilarious things I've seen this week, if not month. Pretty embarrassing to get your ass beat by someone hanging halfway out of a drive-thru window. :lolsy: Even more embarrassing to get your ass whooped and get arrested for it.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22484340 - 11/06/15 02:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

They both dont know how to act, If I got hit I would just take it and then write down his car plates and detailed info, then sue him. Idk if he can press charges now cuz in the video it shows him relentlessly throwing blows, which looks bad to try and use in court as 'fighting for my life'

But then again he had the guy by his tie, but still, im almost positive if he put all his force into pullin the tie he woulda let go or tore the tie, because it shows he was clearly overpowering him.

Idk, whoever threw the first blow was deeply in the wrong, but both did the stupidest thing ever to resort to more violence.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Chakanooga] * 1
    #22484431 - 11/06/15 04:37 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Bernard Robinson III, a McDonald’s manager
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Ooooh the third! I love when people think naming their kid the III is going to make them sound dignified and he just ends up slinging fries. Should have just named him Lashawn Robinson.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Chakanooga]
    #22484465 - 11/06/15 05:17 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Chakanooga said:
They both dont know how to act, If I got hit I would just take it and then write down his car plates and detailed info, then sue him. Idk if he can press charges now cuz in the video it shows him relentlessly throwing blows, which looks bad to try and use in court as 'fighting for my life'

But then again he had the guy by his tie, but still, im almost positive if he put all his force into pullin the tie he woulda let go or tore the tie, because it shows he was clearly overpowering him.

Idk, whoever threw the first blow was deeply in the wrong, but both did the stupidest thing ever to resort to more violence.




the drive thru guy didn't start it according to the article. the other guy got out of his car and started choking him because he dropped his change, which is why the drive thru guy pummeled him.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Chakanooga]
    #22484549 - 11/06/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Chakanooga said:
They both dont know how to act, If I got hit I would just take it and then write down his car plates and detailed info, then sue him. Idk if he can press charges now cuz in the video it shows him relentlessly throwing blows, which looks bad to try and use in court as 'fighting for my life'




what exactly do you think "fighting for my life" means? in most places it means
you're allowed to use force, even deadly force in order to stop an attacker, in
fact you dont have to fear for your life in order to defend yourself, you simply
have to fear that you will come to harm

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But then again he had the guy by his tie, but still, im almost positive if he put all his force into pullin the tie he woulda let go or tore the tie, because it shows he was clearly overpowering him.




ever try to break a tie? tearing cloth is tough, tearing several layers of cloth
such as a tie has is even tougher, a silk tie is even harder to break loose
because silk is made of some seriously tough shit. did you know a large number of
ties are made of silk? did you also know it's hard to break free from someone
that's hanging from a 'noose' that's around your neck because that 200lbs of
asshole pretty much keeps you off balance

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Idk, whoever threw the first blow was deeply in the wrong, but both did the stupidest thing ever to resort to more violence.





so if someone attacks you then you shouldnt be allowed to defend yourself? I know
that if I'm attacked by someone then I'm certainly going to defend myself as
opposed to becoming a victim of some violent dickhead's bad mood. You are
certainly welcome to be the eternal victim and believe that violence is never the
answer but when random violence is thrust on you, you dont know if you're about
to draw your last breath or not and you're certainly welcome to lay there and
take the beating but I know what I plan to do in those situations


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22484593 - 11/06/15 06:38 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Theres fighting for your life, then theres getting your own case of assault or battery.

As for the tie, that thing is probably polyester, hes working at mcdonalds theres no way hes using a silk tie.

Lastly, I mean, if we were in the middle of nowhere and someone attacks me, ofc im attacking back, but this dude was surrounded by cameras, coworkers, and customers, punching back to that degree is uncalled for.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Chakanooga] * 1
    #22484689 - 11/06/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Theres fighting for your life, then theres getting your own case of assault or battery.

As for the tie, that thing is probably polyester, hes working at mcdonalds theres no way hes using a silk tie.

Lastly, I mean, if we were in the middle of nowhere and someone attacks me, ofc im attacking back, but this dude was surrounded by cameras, coworkers, and customers, punching back to that degree is uncalled for.





lol... did the cameras stop the guy from attacking the McDonalds manager? did the
customers or coworkers stop the attack from happening? did any of the cameras
intervene in the attack, did the coworkers or the customers pull the guy off the
manager? what I saw was someone had pulled out their phone and started recording
the attack, that didnt seem to stop it and it doesnt matter how many witnesses
you have whether live or electronic, if no one stops the attack then it can
certainly become a very well witnessed murder... but hey, there's witnesses and
camreas, surely those cameras will pay the mortgage on the house and get the kids
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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22484723 - 11/06/15 07:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I thought this was gonna be on the mcnuggets flip out level. This just looks ike a normal friday night in the drive thru lane to me :shrug:


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 2
    #22484760 - 11/06/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

They probably had a beef over something

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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22484827 - 11/06/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Chakanooga said:
Theres fighting for your life, then theres getting your own case of assault or battery.

As for the tie, that thing is probably polyester, hes working at mcdonalds theres no way hes using a silk tie.

Lastly, I mean, if we were in the middle of nowhere and someone attacks me, ofc im attacking back, but this dude was surrounded by cameras, coworkers, and customers, punching back to that degree is uncalled for.





lol... did the cameras stop the guy from attacking the McDonalds manager? did the
customers or coworkers stop the attack from happening? did any of the cameras
intervene in the attack, did the coworkers or the customers pull the guy off the
manager? what I saw was someone had pulled out their phone and started recording
the attack, that didnt seem to stop it and it doesnt matter how many witnesses
you have whether live or electronic, if no one stops the attack then it can
certainly become a very well witnessed murder... but hey, there's witnesses and
camreas, surely those cameras will pay the mortgage on the house and get the kids
off to school each morning once that manager is dead




Srsly?

What does stopping the fight have to do with anything? The only one that woulda got murdered was the guy holding on to a tie almost looking unconscious after the 4th blow, which holds my point that the manager was reckless ( as well as the idiot on the tie )

The cameras and coworkers were just an addition to my statement, because they seen everything. Without them, thats when it could turn into potential murder, because that manager was mega pissed.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Chakanooga] * 2
    #22484900 - 11/06/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Chakanooga said:
Theres fighting for your life, then theres getting your own case of assault or battery.

As for the tie, that thing is probably polyester, hes working at mcdonalds theres no way hes using a silk tie.

Lastly, I mean, if we were in the middle of nowhere and someone attacks me, ofc im attacking back, but this dude was surrounded by cameras, coworkers, and customers, punching back to that degree is uncalled for.





lol... did the cameras stop the guy from attacking the McDonalds manager? did the
customers or coworkers stop the attack from happening? did any of the cameras
intervene in the attack, did the coworkers or the customers pull the guy off the
manager? what I saw was someone had pulled out their phone and started recording
the attack, that didnt seem to stop it and it doesnt matter how many witnesses
you have whether live or electronic, if no one stops the attack then it can
certainly become a very well witnessed murder... but hey, there's witnesses and
camreas, surely those cameras will pay the mortgage on the house and get the kids
off to school each morning once that manager is dead




Srsly?

What does stopping the fight have to do with anything? The only one that woulda got murdered was the guy holding on to a tie almost looking unconscious after the 4th blow, which holds my point that the manager was reckless ( as well as the idiot on the tie )





so you're here defending someone that attacked a man because the man took to long
to get his change for him, the attackr didnt look even close to unconcious, he
was trying to use his body weight to drag the guy out of the window and here you
are sticking up for this violent thug as opposed to condemning his behavior while
you claim some retarded shit about cameras, customers and coworkers  being there
to help


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The cameras and coworkers were just an addition to my statement, because they seen everything. Without them, thats when it could turn into potential murder, because that manager was mega pissed.




I dunno... call me crazy but when someone launches an unprovoked attack I think
it's pretty normal for people to get angry at the attacker, maybe you're domehow
under the impression that this McDonalds manager returned with the guy's change
and then just snapped and pulled the guy right out of his window completely,
maybe shoved him hard enough that he moved the car over a few feet

once more, how do the cameras, customers and coworkers help a man, are they
paying the bills while the man recovers? are they supporting his family if he's
murdered? are they preventing the assault from taking place? so they all witness
an assault, it doesnt stop the assault, the manager defending himself is what
stopped the assault

do you oppose self defense? do people not have a right to live free of violence
and you somehow believe that the bad guys wont hurt you if you dont fight? this
takes us back to what started the violence, did the manager attack the guy in his
car, if so, why didnt the guy just drive off, how did he manage to get out of his
car? the manager must have used his kung fu tie skills to entangle the guy's hand
and drag him from the car

know when violence is an answer? when someone attacks you

know when violence isnt an answer? when someone took longer than you wanted to
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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22488698 - 11/06/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Im not defending anyone, both were in the wrong, wtf? I clearly stated that, im just explaining how the coworker was in the wrong too.

And I know the cameras dont cover his bills and expensive but they can very likely increase his expenses just by taking a little beating.

Imagine if the coworker didnt throw a punch, things woulda been way different, the headline would be 'mcdonald manager attacked' instead of 'mcdonalds fight' and he would be way more compensated for what happened, and the attacker woulda been charged for battery instead of a misdemeanor assault, without releasing him.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Chakanooga] * 1
    #22488776 - 11/06/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Im not defending anyone, both were in the wrong, wtf? I clearly stated that, im just explaining how the coworker was in the wrong too.

And I know the cameras dont cover his bills and expensive but they can very likely increase his expenses just by taking a little beating.

Imagine if the coworker didnt throw a punch, things woulda been way different, the headline would be 'mcdonald manager attacked' instead of 'mcdonalds fight' and he would be way more compensated for what happened, and the attacker woulda been charged for battery instead of a misdemeanor assault, without releasing him.






Lol


Willing to get your ass beat for a paycheck.


Have some dignity and defend yourself.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Big Worm]
    #22488825 - 11/06/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Lol


Willing to get your ass beat for a paycheck.


Have some dignity and defend yourself.




I would defend myself by backing the hell up, not throwing more punches, and causing him to go into an uncontrollable rage.

If he wanted a real fight he can meet me on the streets some where. While im at my job, I will act professional, even if I get harmed, because everything is recorded.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Big Worm]
    #22488827 - 11/06/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

willing to get his ass beat and possibly even die to get nothing, the guy will be
in jail, even if a lawsuit is filed you cant simply force the guy to pay, sure, the
judge can award a settlement but if the guy doesnt pay he can only keep going
back to court and wasting his money to beg the guy to pay the judgement. all
the guy has to do is wait several years and he has no obligation to pay

of curse wasting the fucker hanging from his tie will alleviate that and the future
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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Chakanooga]
    #22488830 - 11/06/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Oh noes! The camera is watching, that means I have to be a punching bag..

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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Chakanooga]
    #22488834 - 11/06/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Lol


Willing to get your ass beat for a paycheck.


Have some dignity and defend yourself.




I would defend myself by backing the hell up, not throwing more punches, and causing him to go into an uncontrollable rage.

If he wanted a real fight he can meet me on the streets some where. While im at my job, I will act professional, even if I get harmed, because everything is recorded.





hahahaha... sure, the "meet me at XXXXX and we'll fight" actually eliminates any
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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22488850 - 11/06/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Im not gunna say anything idk but there has to be some kinda restriction or tax on his check that goes to the defendant or something.
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Oh noes! The camera is watching, that means I have to be a punching bag..

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not a punching bag, who said that? Im saying not to be someone relentlessly throwing punches.

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hahahaha... sure, the "meet me at XXXXX and we'll fight" actually eliminates any
claims to self defense you would have had, that lands you in jail too




I wouldnt of said that tho, im saying if he wants a real fight, theres plenty of ways to find eachother while not on the clock, or surrounded by witnesses.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Chakanooga] * 1
    #22488868 - 11/06/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'd stop throwing punches as soon as he let go of the tie, until then it's open season. I'd beat him in the head with something heavy if I had it available. You're not gonna sit there pulling on a noose around my neck and not get everything I can possibly throw at you to injure you and stop you.

Pretty simple concept, don't wanna wind up in the hospital, don't put my well being in danger and then continue to keep it in danger after I've made it more than known this is not acceptable.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Chakanooga]
    #22488876 - 11/06/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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hahahaha... sure, the "meet me at XXXXX and we'll fight" actually eliminates any
claims to self defense you would have had, that lands you in jail too




I wouldnt of said that tho, im saying if he wants a real fight, theres plenty of ways to find eachother while not on the clock, or surrounded by witnesses.




wouldnt matter. your ass would have a gaping hole in your spleen when the unstable
asshole stabs you or you'll end up in jail

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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22488902 - 11/06/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I'd stop throwing punches as soon as he let go of the tie, until then it's open season. I'd beat him in the head with something heavy if I had it available. You're not gonna sit there pulling on a noose around my neck and not get everything I can possibly throw at you to injure you and stop you.

Pretty simple concept, don't wanna wind up in the hospital, don't put my well being in danger and then continue to keep it in danger after I've made it more than known this is not acceptable.




I agree, but I probably woulda stopped throwing punches after realizing im 5 punches ahead of him, its just not right, even if he started it and was in the wrong I wouldnt lower myself to his standard and pretty much beat him till hes down and out.

You guys actin like im not on the managers side, im just saying he coulda controlled the situation better.

There is class, then there is savagery.
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wouldnt matter. your ass would have a gaping hole in your spleen when the unstable
asshole stabs you or you'll end up in jail

you've never even been in a fight have you




A gaping hole in my spleen, really?

What kinda question is that, im pretty sure every human has been into a fight atleast once in their life, its just a part of humans, ive fought strangers as well as family and survived them all, give humans credit, we are stronger then that.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Chakanooga]
    #22488917 - 11/07/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The second this guy tried to choke him and pull him out of the business (this is the middle of the night no less, and I can tell you from experience the shadiest of fucking people come out of the woodwork on the overnight shift) which is his only real safety net, all bets are off. You think a coked up violent shithead with no regard for your life is going to stab you through the drive through window? Nah.. He's gonna drag your ass outside and do it there. I'm not saying that was this guy's intentions but you can't base it on what people's intentions are especially in the heat of the moment. To work overnights in businesses like this, you have to be far more vigilant and be ready for ANYTHING and always assume the worst. My store was actually robbed at gun point very shortly after I moved to over nights. Cashier knew he was shady but refused to adopt that mindset, and nearly lost her life for doing it.

5 punches ahead? This isn't a contest.. This isn't trading licks, this is a fight. In a fight you do what you have to secure your own well being. Doesn't matter if the guy has only landed one punch and you've landed 50. As long as he's still being the aggressor, you don't stop. There is a difference between self defense and assault. If you are only throwing punches while actively trying to stop the incident that caused punches to start in the first place, that is still self defense. At any point this dumbass could've let go and walked away and got in his car and drove off. He chose not to and chose to make the employee continue to defend himself. That is 100% on him. There is no common courtesy in matters like these. He chose to remain the aggressor. He chose to keep getting hit.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22488948 - 11/07/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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The second this guy tried to choke him and pull him out of the business (this is the middle of the night no less, and I can tell you from experience the shadiest of fucking people come out of the woodwork on the overnight shift) which is his only real safety net, all bets are off. You think a coked up violent shithead with no regard for your life is going to stab you through the drive through window? Nah.. He's gonna drag your ass outside and do it there. I'm not saying that was this guy's intentions but you can't base it on what people's intentions are especially in the heat of the moment. To work overnights in businesses like this, you have to be far more vigilant and be ready for ANYTHING and always assume the worst. My store was actually robbed at gun point very shortly after I moved to over nights. Cashier knew he was shady but refused to adopt that mindset, and nearly lost her life for doing it.

5 punches ahead? This isn't a contest.. This isn't trading licks, this is a fight. In a fight you do what you have to secure your own well being. Doesn't matter if the guy has only landed one punch and you've landed 50. As long as he's still being the aggressor, you don't stop. There is a difference between self defense and assault. If you are only throwing punches while actively trying to stop the incident that caused punches to start in the first place, that is still self defense. At any point this dumbass could've let go and walked away and got in his car and drove off. He chose not to and chose to make the employee continue to defend himself. That is 100% on him. There is no common courtesy in matters like these. He chose to remain the aggressor. He chose to keep getting hit.





Trust me I work nightshift and when a car drives by looking shady I always think it could be a possible robbery, but at no point in this video did it look like it was going to be a fight to the death, a stabbing, or a shooting, it was a basic brawl almost at the same level as a bar fight.

Yeah, its not a contest, but when your punching someone and they look pretty out of it, then they are probably holding on your tie for balance, instead of trying to harm you anymore, but he kept going to the point where dude was like fuck it so he dropped the the ground and started booting him. Its all cause and effect.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Chakanooga]
    #22488970 - 11/07/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

LOL he wasn't holding the tie for balance, perhaps you didn't really watch the video carefully enough. He's trying to drag him out by the tie.

Number one thing I was told about working overnights is never let someone get me outside the store. If I felt something was truly off I was to discretely call the police for a "random drive-by" which they understood meant there is someone in the store acting extremely shady and they needed to establish a presence until said person was gone. If at all possible avoid direct confrontation, find a way to get them to exit and lock the doors and call the police then.

The building is "home base" as best we get. It is a lot easier to become a victim outside of it, and if someone is trying to get you out of it, you should do whatever is in your power to not let it happen.

The point of all this isn't really what this person's intentions were once he drug him out of the store, it's what they could be and how dangerous it can be to get isolated outside like that. You don't let it happen, ever.

If we're going to be honest, what that manager did was highly restrained. I would have done worse. So what if I get fired or fined or whatever. My life is more important to me than some shitty job. It's obviously self defense, so I face little or no legal repercussion. If the company wants to fire me for refusing to be a victim, so be it.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Chakanooga]
    #22488981 - 11/07/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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    #22488983 - 11/07/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

As a side note, all of this is said by someone who literally goes out of his way to avoid fights. If you start actually hitting me, I'm not going to just run away, but as long as it's still in the verbal stages, I will do my absolute best to deescalate the situation. Even if it means having to listen to some person tell me I'm a bitch 10x over. I really don't give a fuck about what people say to me. There is no way to tell how a fight will progress or what may happen in one, so I avoid them the best I can. Back me into a corner though, even if you win, you are not walking away uninjured. I'm no Kung Fu master, but most of the people who are hell bent on fighting, aren't either.


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22488992 - 11/07/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Your opinions are stupid.




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As a side note, all of this is said by someone who literally goes out of his way to avoid fights. If you start actually hitting me, I'm not going to just run away, but as long as it's still in the verbal stages, I will do my absolute best to deescalate the situation. Even if it means having to listen to some person tell me I'm a bitch 10x over. I really don't give a fuck about what people say to me. There is no way to tell how a fight will progress or what may happen in one, so I avoid them the best I can. Back me into a corner though, even if you win, you are not walking away uninjured. I'm no Kung Fu master, but most of the people who are hell bent on fighting, aren't either.



Excellent, as would I, but the only thing we are different on is how we execute our fights, I believe in a thing called mercy because its part of my morals.


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    #22489010 - 11/07/15 12:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Mercy is granted when the aggressor decides he's had enough (or in rare cases, this not being one) where they really can't be a threat any longer. Mercy is walking away when the person is no longer a threat and not pursuing the fight further just because you're pissed off.

I believe in a thing called mercy as well. There is only one instance in which I did not grant mercy, and I was young, and the guy had just tried to strangle me. I was beyond pissed and I let my emotions take over. Putting in spoilers for I dunno why, maybe so people can just skip it if they wish.

The short of it is me and a friend walked in one of his mom's friends trying to rape her with his 8 year old sister in the house. Obviously things got violent quick, I grabbed his sister ran out the back door and hid her in some bushes and worked my way back to the house. Friend soon ran out as I was standing by the backdoor with the guy quickly following. He saw me, took me to the ground and started trying to choke me out while beating me in the face. Friend grabbed his baseball bat and beat him with it enough to break his back. He plainly said he gave up. I got up and started kicking him as hard as I could in his ribs and broke several. Ran back to my house to call the police and on the way slashed all his tires so he couldn't get away. He tried on foot and made it about a block or two. Cops found him laying the street mostly unresponsive. I was a very young teen when it happened and not as in control of my compulsions as I am these days.

And yes, I do feel badly about the incident, even given why it started. He deserved his ass beat, he deserved a lengthy prison sentence, but I don't know that he deserved the possibility of spending the rest of his life in a wheel chair. This is actually one of the incidents that most shaped who I am today when it comes to fighting and how you never know how they will end up turning out. There is literally no way I could have guessed from the first punch my friend threw that this guy would possibly end up paralyzed for life in a matter of minutes. Things could have gone the complete opposite way as well. Fighting is too unpredictable and I avoid it when I can.

This post comes to you from benzos and alcohol as that is when I tend to ramble and tell random stories.

Also as a side note, the only thing cops wanted from us, was testimony. The case was bad enough that they didn't give one shit about how we handled things and we gave them every single detail. He was later found to of been on many drugs, including meth and PCP


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22489022 - 11/07/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Mercy is granted when the aggressor decides he's had enough (or in rare cases, this not being one) where they really can't be a threat any longer. Mercy is walking away when the person is no longer a threat and not pursuing the fight further just because you're pissed off.

I believe in a thing called mercy as well. There is only one instance in which I did not grant mercy, and I was young, and the guy had just tried to strangle me. I was beyond pissed and I let my emotions take over. Putting in spoilers for I dunno why, maybe so people can just skip it if they wish.

The short of it is me and a friend walked in one of his mom's friends trying to rape her with his 8 year old sister in the house. Obviously things got violent quick, I grabbed his sister ran out the back door and hid her in some bushes and worked my way back to the house. Friend soon ran out as I was standing by the backdoor with the guy quickly following. He saw me, took me to the ground and started trying to choke me out while beating me in the face. Friend grabbed his baseball bat and beat him with it enough to break his back. He plainly said he gave up. I got up and started kicking him as hard as I could in his ribs and broke several. Ran back to my house to call the police and on the way slashed all his tires so he couldn't get away. He tried on foot and made it about a block or two. Cops found him laying the street mostly unresponsive. I was a very young teen when it happened and not as in control of my compulsions as I am these days.

And yes, I do feel badly about the incident, even given why it started. He deserved his ass beat, he deserved a lengthy prison sentence, but I don't know that he deserved the possibility of spending the rest of his life in a wheel chair. This is actually one of the incidents that most shaped who I am today when it comes to fighting and how you never know how they will end up turning out. There is literally no way I could have guessed from the first punch my friend threw that this guy would possibly end up paralyzed for life in a matter of minutes. Things could have gone the complete opposite way as well. Fighting is too unpredictable and I avoid it when I can.

This post comes to you from benzos and alcohol as that is when I tend to ramble and tell random stories.

Also as a side note, the only thing cops wanted from us, was testimony. The case was bad enough that they didn't give one shit about how we handled things and we gave them every single detail. He was later found to of been on many drugs, including meth and PCP





Quite the sad story. Ive never had to fight for my life like that, just basic brawls that end up more heated and over exaggerated. But that is indeed a whole different story, because in a predicament like that, with the actions he has committed, you should technically be allowed to take his life due to the fact he was life threatening and obviously mentally unstable, trying to personally attack a civil and innocent family.

Glad you didnt kill the guy though. Calm and level headed is the way to be, we need more people like that instead of crazed lunatics with no remorse.


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    #22489028 - 11/07/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)



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    #22489033 - 11/07/15 01:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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    #22489041 - 11/07/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Actually the courts ruled in the employee's favor.

He was also a convicted felon that was released some years prior.

And I'd also have to agree with the court's on this one though.


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    #22489046 - 11/07/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Actually the courts ruled in the employee's favor.

He was also a convicted felon that was released some years prior.

And I'd also have to agree with the court's on this one though.




Ik, but still, they were already on the floor, and hes still swinging. Its wtfness. They had to of known eachother before that or something...


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    #22489053 - 11/07/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nah they still had intentions to hurt him. If you had shot a rabid dog, and it got up as fast as that woman did, would you shoot it again or let it come at you again??


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Re: This is one I've never seen before (fighting through McDonald's drive-thru) [Re: Shiithead]
    #22489070 - 11/07/15 01:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Nah they still had intentions to hurt him. If you had shot a rabid dog, and it got up as fast as that woman did, would you shoot it again or let it come at you again??



If you shoot a rabid dog, its not gunna get up. And if it did, it would be a crippling and feeble attempt.


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