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Offlineskyline97
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What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?)
    #22482782 - 11/05/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have not yet seen visuals i am wondering why, What dosage do you personally start to see visuals? I have tripped 5 times i believe now, Personally a few many times since i've only tried them within probably 3 months ago, I'm having  a break for roughly a month untill my next trip.

First time 1g followed with .5, Seen nothing but awesome feeling, 2nd time next day 0.7 waste of time still awesome followed with some bong rips, Nearly fucking rekt me i thought i was about to black out.

3rd time at a waterfall 0.7 again all i had, was fucking amazing! best place to trip out in the nice breeze near a waterfall absolutely amazing, 4th time with my best mate 1g lemon tek another awesome time (feeling) still seen nothing to an extent the blankets moved the TINEST bit that's about it, Then the 5th time 1.3 and had a bad trip, Due to the trip was fucked up put it that way i had 1.3 mate had 1.6, He was tripping balls and i was waiting for a trip that never came, I was very anxious, waiting for the trip 2 hours later it was horribile then he said some things without thinking that set me of as he was tripping balls, And here i am already pissed/dissapointed waiting for a trip that never came. 
That being all said, Me and my mates have roughly taken the same dosage each time they claim to alteast see some shit, I have not yet, 4/5 times it's just been amazing mindset feeling things look bright etc. Oh i lie on 1g lemon tek when i say my eyes i saw SLIGHT visuals but really was nothing, Still amazing!

How would you describe a high dosage, Do you see stuff, Or "seing stuff" is that overrated/exaggerated?


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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: skyline97]
    #22483080 - 11/05/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

See vibrations/stoned feeling at 3g dried.

But if I have a choice I would go with truffles. They are pretty visual and with less mental confusion or 'getting fukd' - easier to have a conversation while still trippin. Like 15g fresh truffles :thumbup:

Would just eat an eighth :shrug:

Just a mushroom :mushroom2: :laugh:

Edit: regarding higher doses - it's not a waste. Has the potential for life changing experiences. I like 5g dry - I suggest that after 3.5g. Every trip is different some have visuals where everything that is colored red is ablaze, exploding with light, flowing sheets of patterns of shapes and color, sometimes taking form, sometimes reflecting seemingly subconcious thoughts. Also have had moments of confusion where a whole curtain falls after I have some idea probe created a glitch in my perfectly created reality - everything can be throw into question - what is real?


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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: filthyknees]
    #22483158 - 11/05/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

2.5g of good shrooms I'm flying through the universe with a soundtrack to boot. 100 mics lsd I can pretty much be swimming in visuals too :tripping: :shrug:


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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: satch1234]
    #22483864 - 11/05/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You might need a higher dose than other people tend to.  The only way to really know is just ramp it up over time until visuals kick in.  Usually though a trip with strong visuals (OEV anyway) is a full blown psychedelic experience with all the other weird shit that can happen, so unless  you're down for anything and everything recommend you work up to it gradually. :thumbup:

Uhm, since you ask, it takes around 3.5-5g reliably for me, but it depends on the strain I've grown.  Sometimes less than 3g of potent stuff has launched me into hyperspace with no seat belt. :lol:


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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #22483882 - 11/05/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Lemon tekking gave me my first truly hallucinatory (visual AND audio) experiences after about 3 or 4 moderately strong trips that were purely CEVs. First and only things I've seen are breathing of objects around me, and 'melting' of complex patterns.


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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: WChef]
    #22484033 - 11/06/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

2 grams has the room breathing for me. 3.5 has everything enhanced, waving, mad tracers, etc.


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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22484093 - 11/06/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Shit i have visuals on 0.7 grams of mushrooms. I can have some amazing visuals with low doses. But they get even more incredible with higher doses.

if you arent getting any visuals whatsoever.. Try focusing your eyes on a wall, or stare at yourself in a mirror. Being perfectly still and focusing on something always induces visuals for me.

With higher doses i dont have to focus for it.. Just becomes automatic.


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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: ak47myth]
    #22484097 - 11/06/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I usually eat at least 3.5 grams. Or 300ug of LSD. Everyone's different so you just have to find your sweet spot. I would definitely increase the dosage


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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22484152 - 11/06/15 12:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
I usually eat at least 3.5 grams. Or 300ug of LSD. Everyone's different so you just have to find your sweet spot. I would definitely increase the dosage



:whathesaid:
I certainly would not feel or see anything at all on any less than half an eighth


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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22484229 - 11/06/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Crazy, I guess I'm used to the woodlovers, 300ug of L and I'm going deeeeep, probably ego death..


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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: satch1234]
    #22484266 - 11/06/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Have you tried a cyanescens LSD mix?


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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22484320 - 11/06/15 02:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

nah dude never shrooms and L actually, hows it?


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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: satch1234]
    #22484456 - 11/06/15 05:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The answers are going to be all over the map.  Everyone is different.  You will need to find your own personal thresholds for virtually all psychedelics.  Just start low and titrate up no more than 20% (Shulgin's rule) each time until you find the mental sweet spot or comfort level is reached.

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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: skyline97]
    #22484602 - 11/06/15 06:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Do you see stuff, Or "seing stuff" is that overrated/exaggerated?




The visuals can be very beautiful, especially the closed-eye visuals, so don't forget to spend some time with your eyes closed - these CEV just mysteriously appear, as if you are watching an incredibly high-resolution 3D screen on the back of your eyelids.

Sometimes the kinds of open-eye visuals on mushrooms can be exaggerated by people who are unfamiliar with what happens. For example, if someone says "I want to take mushrooms so I can see cartoon unicorns walking in to the room and talking to me!" they are being unrealistic, its the kind of fantasy imagined up by people who have never tripped (although I do sometimes see random cartoony stuff in my CEV at the beginning of my trips).

On the other hand, OEV can start to get surprisingly "far out" on higher doses, when the dimensions of the room start to shift, things appear to be moving around at each side of you, the closed-eye-visuals begin to bleed into your normal vision, there is a glowing alphabet-soup covering the walls.....lots of weirdness you didn't expect.

The exact visuals will vary a lot from person to person, but they do tend to be dose-dependent - what Nature Boy says about finding your own thresholds is sensible. Bear in mind that "tripping for strong visuals" puts you on a path where the trips get more and more intense and give you a lot of weird mindfuck, like Primal Soup says.

This was some info on visuals I put together for a FAQ elsewhere - it was based on my first dozen or so trips, which won't be the same as yours, but it gives some idea of the typical range of effects you might get at moderately intense doses with a bit of experimentation:

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Closed-eye visuals –CEV (Strength will vary depending on dose, but a psychedelic light-show should be visible even on a mild dose).

“When I close my eyes, I am looking down onto a tiled floor and seeing toys in an imagined space and tiles everywhere and the space is fragmenting and the tiles are spiralling…”
“my CEV are: whales made out of purple and the colour orange”
“a red-chequered tablecloth that is refracted in a thousand mirrors”
“I see biscuit tins and silvery wings”
“everything is red and there are rivers of words and packets and advertising running around the surfaces of imaginary objects at unusual angles”

Repeating patterns, objects, colours, scenes, people, animals, cities are viewed with eyes closed, as though projected onto the back of the eyelids. Imagery flows and continually transforms into new visions. There is often an inky black or bright white background (may depend on ambient light), colours are fluorescent, shapes are often stylised or cartoon-like. ‘classic’ psychedelic imagery of spirals, kaleidoscopic movement, transformations. Although the imagery is clearly internally generated, there is no awareness of “thinking them up” or imagining them – they are viewed purely as a spectator. The creation of a new perceptual field not related to the surrounding 3D space - a seemingly vast internal world appears to be opening up inside your head.

Open-eye visuals – OEV (These are not always present, - even on higher doses they are sometimes not particularly vivid - and depend strongly on the surroundings.)

“The bedclothes pulsate, but now they are still again. This is a tricksy drug, stealthily invading your peripheral vision”

Note - these kind of hallucinations generally involve perceptual alterations to the surfaces of real objects. Don’t expect to see objects that aren’t there – you won’t see any marching penguins in your hotel room (unless you brought them with you when you checked-in). On a high enough dose you might become convinced that there are invisible penguins surrounding you (frankly, your obsession with penguins is beginning to disturb me) but that’s a delusion, not a hallucination. You may see creative re-interpretations of actual objects (e.g there is a real coat on the floor, but when you are not viewing it directly you see it as a cat) but my basic point is that although your visual sense becomes distorted it’s still fairly reliable.

Specks of light appear in peripheral vision. Colours attract more attention. Movement, objects or scenes perceived in peripheral vision that vanish when viewed directly. Surfaces may appear to ripple or breath slightly. Patterned or speckled surfaces begin to spiral when examined closely. Some surfaces such as carpet may give an appearance of word-soup (indistinct letters and numbers within a surface), holes in ceiling tiles may appear to contain gemstones. Objects may appear to glow slightly, especially in artificial light. Shadows seem to move.




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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: Aldebaran]
    #22484711 - 11/06/15 07:28 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Really depends on the shrooms batch to batch are HUGE in differences my standard medium is 3.5g but i've had 8g that was weaker than a 3.5g dose. I've had 3.5g doses that felt like a 10g dose.

Method they were grown, dried, crushed and how fresh they are make BIG differences.


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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: m1ch43l8]
    #22487122 - 11/06/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Well, the obvious answer to that is grow a large batch, dry them cracker-dry, and then powder the ENTIRE batch.  Mix thoroughly, homogenizing the powder.  Now 3 grams always equals 3 grams, etc., etc.  Never have to worry about variation on a dose until after you've grown the next batch.

That's what I do.  Works like a charm.

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Re: What dosage do you start to personally see visuals? (why aren't i see'ing visuals?) [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22487183 - 11/06/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

2 days ago Ihad a chocolate I made about a month ago. I used 1g in them, and just off that I had pictures coming to life. Go on Google and type in galaxy. The planets were orbiting, the stars glowing, etc. It was quite nice.


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