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DampMushroom


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2 REDBOY TUBS *DELETED*
#22482270 - 11/05/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Machiavelliavore
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Pinning before full colonization is pretty good sign that you have contaminated (most likely bacterial) spawn.
8-10 days is actually a fairly long time for full colonization of coir I've found lately, it's more like 4-6 days (@1:2.)
Redboy is a great variety 
There's a whole trendy thread about colonizing tubs that are basically in fruiting conditions by azur, hasn't done that for anyone that's tried it afaik.
I guess it miiight fruit if you really suck at mixing your spawn in, but I don't think it's too likely. Another possibility is that you aren't used to what fully colonized coir looks like (pretty thin compared to PF cakes/grains/straw.)
Pics look good and very densely colonized ???
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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Machiavelliavore
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I also use redboy for the most part. Almost all my cultures are tomentose on agar and rhizo in grain/PF. My redboy seems to have mutated into mutant rustpore print. Still half purple brown prints, so I'm assuming it's not CRS or PFRS
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
Edited by Machiavelliavore (11/07/15 05:22 PM)
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DampMushroom


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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS *DELETED* [Re: Zombi3]
#22502271 - 11/09/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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A squirt never hurts....more air the better
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: cronicr]
#22502486 - 11/09/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I gave up trying to find a tight fitting lid solution and bought the wide roll of Saran Wrap like material at the hardware store, pull it tight over the tub and tape four corners then put the lid on over it. Seems to keep the airtight seal much better than any tub I could find locally.
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: SynKyd]
#22502517 - 11/09/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks a little bit airstarved to me, but that could just be genetics. The cap to pin ratio looks a bit off to me. If you fruit it in open air, you might wanna try late casing. I'm not a fan of it, but starting with an uncased sub then trying to open air fruit it, it would probably aid in moisture retention.
Personally I'd look at loosening the top poly a bit.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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Psilosoulful

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That tub is gonna take off soon!! Make sure to keep the surface glistening and it'll throw out a monster flush!
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: SynKyd]
#22502995 - 11/09/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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SinysterKyd said: I gave up trying to find a tight fitting lid solution and bought the wide roll of Saran Wrap like material at the hardware store, pull it tight over the tub and tape four corners then put the lid on over it. Seems to keep the airtight seal much better than any tub I could find locally.
Why are you making your tubs air tight?
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: Kalistis]
#22503911 - 11/10/15 07:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kalistis said:
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SinysterKyd said: I gave up trying to find a tight fitting lid solution and bought the wide roll of Saran Wrap like material at the hardware store, pull it tight over the tub and tape four corners then put the lid on over it. Seems to keep the airtight seal much better than any tub I could find locally.
Why are you making your tubs air tight?
 Just put on the lids for your tubs and don't tape them up. The imperfect seal is what will supply the GE that your colonizing tub needs.
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probably some off-site information, I've seen sites that promotes weather stripping your monos. all living things like a little GE and not being choked in a plastic box.
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SynKyd
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Quote:
Psilosoulful said:
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Kalistis said:
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SinysterKyd said: I gave up trying to find a tight fitting lid solution and bought the wide roll of Saran Wrap like material at the hardware store, pull it tight over the tub and tape four corners then put the lid on over it. Seems to keep the airtight seal much better than any tub I could find locally.
Why are you making your tubs air tight?
 Just put on the lids for your tubs and don't tape them up. The imperfect seal is what will supply the GE that your colonizing tub needs.
I leave GE for colonization, just not through the lid. That was the problem he identified, loose lid causing premature pinning, right?
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: SynKyd]
#22506803 - 11/10/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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no, loose lids gives GE which is something you want so your mycel dont choke
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: SynKyd]
#22506823 - 11/10/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilosoulful said:
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Kalistis said:
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SinysterKyd said: I gave up trying to find a tight fitting lid solution and bought the wide roll of Saran Wrap like material at the hardware store, pull it tight over the tub and tape four corners then put the lid on over it. Seems to keep the airtight seal much better than any tub I could find locally.
Why are you making your tubs air tight?
 Just put on the lids for your tubs and don't tape them up. The imperfect seal is what will supply the GE that your colonizing tub needs.
I leave GE for colonization, just not through the lid. That was the problem he identified, loose lid causing premature pinning, right?
It really depends on if you have a lid that "clicks" into place. In that case, small airgaps will be created that supply enough GE for your colonizing mono.
If the lid just sits on top and doesn't really form any type of seal, then it'll be allowing too much GE, maybe even some FAE. If that's your situation, then tape up only the four corners so it can sit firmly on top.
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spacechildo said: no, loose lids gives GE which is something you want so your mycel dont choke 
There are other ways to achieve GE besides the loose lid method my friend. The OP suggested he was in a FAE state causing premature pinning. If that is true then a tighter lid solution may be in order for his space, or at least worth experimenting with to prove out his theory.
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: SynKyd]
#22506861 - 11/10/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: no, loose lids gives GE which is something you want so your mycel dont choke 
There are other ways to achieve GE besides the loose lid method my friend. The OP suggested he was in a FAE state causing premature pinning. If that is true then a tighter lid solution may be in order for his space, or at least worth experimenting with to prove out his theory.
If the tub is pinning before 100% colonization is reached, then it isn't a FAE/GE issue, it's a bacterial issue.
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sounds like OP is in denial over dirty spawn to me. Trays are merely covered with alu foil, that's way looser than any lid onto a box, and they do perfectly fine.
there's plenty of ways to achieve ge but why tape the lid shut and then strive to make another hole or 2 for ge?
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spacechildo said: sounds like OP is in denial over dirty spawn to me. Trays are merely covered with alu foil, that's way looser than any lid onto a box, and they do perfectly fine.
Entirely possible and probably the correct answer to why he has early pins, but everyone's space is different and that approach definitely wouldn't work in mine
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spacechildo said: there's plenty of ways to achieve ge but why tape the lid shut and then strive to make another hole or 2 for ge?
Moisture retention and contamination reduction are my main reasons.

OP hope you figure it out!
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: SynKyd]
#22506941 - 11/10/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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that doesnt even make sense sinyster. why would the tub retain moisture any better if ge comes from the lid or anywhere else? and contam protection is a little late to think about after having spawned a tub.
didn't mean to make assumptions on your behalf OP, I thought sinyster was reiterating something you've said!
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The tub looks descent and will. Fruit like a monster. You might have bacterial contamination, but let the damn thing fruit. Inagree with space, as always, dont tape anything. The quickest way to sink a ship.is by cutting off the fae mushrooms need.
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: Sockadin]
#22507133 - 11/10/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't tape anything, you are doing just fine.
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: cronicr]
#22507145 - 11/10/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, that tub is gonna take off soon, those pins look healthy so far!
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cronicr



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I would guess this to be an issue coming from using top layers
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: cronicr]
#22507174 - 11/10/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Did OP even use a top layer? He didn't specify.
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cronicr



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thats why I am guessing
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: cronicr]
#22507231 - 11/10/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr



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I dont see any grain or anything sticking out
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: cronicr]
#22507275 - 11/10/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I agree, exposed grains that dry out on the surface, could definitely be a vector for contams.
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cronicr



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Can be a vector but in monos its rare for that to happen as we dial them to constantly have surface moisture and lots of us stopped using top layers in tubs due to early pinning and shitty pinsets
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS [Re: cronicr]
#22507304 - 11/10/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Definitely, I've never gotten around to using one, I always mix my grain/sub thoroughly, then case after full colonization.
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keep it up. RedBoys are an awesome strain. My yields weren't great but they were nice and potent. The rust colored spores are really cool too.
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS *DELETED* [Re: ShameMaker]
#22516700 - 11/13/15 03:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those stems look a little on the CO2 heavy side. Might need a bit more FAE. And redboy drops a good number of purpleblack prints. Some tubs drop more of one or the other 
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No, this does not look right...
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Foil is easier to use when transfering apores to agar with inoculation loop. Paper can be a bitch, and it can be a food be careful.
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Re: 2 REDBOY TUBS *DELETED* [Re: Sockadin]
#22539848 - 11/17/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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If ya clipped your first flush its common for a quick second
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