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    #22478642 - 11/04/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Every post I about P.  galindoi that I read is either about contaminants or frustration. Does anyone enjoy cultivating this species? I received one of these MS syringes as part of a special. Up until last week I had no idea what they were.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Kalistis]
    #22478654 - 11/04/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Click the tc box in the search engine and quit reading noob posts


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: cronicr]
    #22478748 - 11/04/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Very easy for me and after 4 months I got 150 grams of stones from 3 jars
Then fruited the grains in a tub and got some killer fruits
The stones made me very ill but the fruit was great


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: 99.99]
    #22478795 - 11/04/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've had great luck with stones. But if there is any error in your technique you can grow bacteria over months while the stones develop. Not all contamination prevents mycelium from spreading and continuing it's lifecycle.  It's not always visible. For this reason I've decided to start drying and powdering my stones instead of eating them fresh

Fruiting from grains takes a little TLC but isn't ATL7 specifically isolated for it's sclerotia producing properties and not it's fruiting?

Does anyone know if there are other Galindoi varieties that are commercially available? Is the whole 'ATL7 is a good stone producer' story bunk? is ATL7 in fact a 'regular' galindoi spore specimen?


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: 99.99]
    #22478828 - 11/04/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Im about to enjoy cultivating these! I have a very good culture from Europe I was gifted from someone awesome

I have hundreds of quart jars and I intend to fill all of them with stones!!


How do these react to contams? Like when I get trich I never ever see it in my spawn, only in my tubs after fruiting when its exposed to FAE.
Will the jars go green after like a month or so or will it hide the entire time?


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: cronicr]
    #22478925 - 11/04/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I was working with agar tonight and decided to throw some spores onto plates. While researching this species I discovered there are 3 psychotropic species that form sclerotia. So yes, I am fairly certain that there are other species P. galidoi, P. mexicana and P. tampanensis. I have never had truffles of any kind.... other than maybe in oil, but these have certainly aroused my interest.

They do fruit. Or at least from what I have seen they do.

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Click the tc box in the search engine and quit reading noob posts




My question was more intended for people that weren't TC's. Of course you guys have little problems cultivating most anything. I was interested in hearing if anyone with moderate experience enjoyed cultivating them or if it was too much of a pain in the ass of disappointment.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Kalistis]
    #22478970 - 11/04/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I was just teasing ya dude lol, archive had some good threads though.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: cronicr]
    #22479349 - 11/05/15 03:03 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

This just in: Noobs have bad experiences growing stuff a lot of the time :lol:


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Inocuole]
    #22479363 - 11/05/15 03:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

ATL7 is easy to grow, and one of my favorite mushrooms to grow. Every stone I've harvested are pretty potent aswell.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Achillita]
    #22479674 - 11/05/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Alt#7 was the easiest exotic I grew.

The spores germinate easily on grains, and produce stones quickly.

I primarily used WBS.

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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: DrCrumbs]
    #22479728 - 11/05/15 07:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It produces stones very well. It's a great project to start and then put up on the shelf to forget about while you grow other mush. Then when the occasion arises, harvest a jar and enjoy.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Grey]
    #22479957 - 11/05/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

ATL#7 is awesome, got 10 jars of those just standing and chugging along




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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Yerow]
    #22480143 - 11/05/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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ATL#7 is awesome, got 10 jars of those just standing and chugging along







Looking good! How many stones will you get from those 10 jars?


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Yerow]
    #22480146 - 11/05/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Does this do well in spawn bags? I see most people growing stones in glass


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: mushpunx]
    #22480174 - 11/05/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

They sit for a long time. I personally wouldn't want them in bags in the event I accidentally punctured the bag or ripped it.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Kalistis]
    #22480227 - 11/05/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I did them in bags, they were fine (I didn't notice any difference really or thought about it). The whole thing gets pretty solid.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Kalistis]
    #22480234 - 11/05/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm growing mexicana for the first time here.



I went agar>jars and all 8 colonized with no contams.. And as you can see the jars next to it are cubes..  See how much more aggressive for me they are? I LOVE mexicana.

I made 2 trays with 4 of the jars. They ripped through those too. Should be casing them soon. Hope this helps.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Mad Season]
    #22480653 - 11/05/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

So you case and fruit them while some people stop at just the stones?


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Kalistis]
    #22480663 - 11/05/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

No you can collect the stones then fruit em and collect the fruits and more stones!

Right now i have 4 months+ 10 jars of atl7.

Gonna start mexicana soon.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: oontribe]
    #22480687 - 11/05/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid: I'm just impatient lol


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: oontribe]
    #22480691 - 11/05/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm slightly terrified as to where this hobby is taking me. I passed up going out with my girlfriends twice this last week, and home early from date night with my man to cultivate. Definitely not the best hobby for my social life. :tongue2:


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Kalistis]
    #22480698 - 11/05/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't seen anyone except my girlfriend in like a week.  :shrug:

Embrace it.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Inocuole]
    #22480707 - 11/05/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid: :lol: shroomery people are always outcasts, a bit outside of society and the norm lol. At least the best ones are.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: oontribe]
    #22480712 - 11/05/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

A lot of people, myself included, have had trouble getting them to fruit. Usually just ended up with tubs that grew stones (big ones though).

Fruitless Tampenesis tub with stones pushing through the casing.



Same story, but Atl. #7



Don't be discouraged though, it's a fun one to work with.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Mad Season]
    #22480722 - 11/05/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Kalistis....girlfriendS? Lol

I think you should use 35l or medium size tubs...and alot of fae to put it more in fruiting mood and not stone forming mood(could be wrong)...gonna give it a try...hopefully soon.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: oontribe]
    #22480766 - 11/05/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Alt#7 I just went MS to grain, no problem. At the time I would do grains and agar at the same time whenever I got a new species/var.

I found a syringe with about a 0.5cc left in it from about 4 years ago. It went through some really cold winters though. I kind of wanna throw some of it on a pasty plate and see if it'll germinate.

I wasn't able to get it fruit, I only tried to fruit one jar after getting stones.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: oontribe]
    #22480774 - 11/05/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Kalistis....girlfriendS? Lol

I think you should use 35l or medium size tubs...and alot of fae to put it more in fruiting mood and not stone forming mood(could be wrong)...gonna give it a try...hopefully soon.




Yeah, you know, how ladies have "girlfriends" that are pretty much just besties?


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Inocuole]
    #22480799 - 11/05/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Lol sorry i thought you are a guy!


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Kalistis]
    #22480926 - 11/05/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14745493#14745493
Funny because I literally read through this right before I got to this thread. A TC, but a great read. lots of pictures in the other pages.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Grey]
    #22481037 - 11/05/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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A lot of people, myself included, have had trouble getting them to fruit. Usually just ended up with tubs that grew stones (big ones though).

Fruitless Tampenesis tub with stones pushing through the casing.



Same story, but Atl. #7



Don't be discouraged though, it's a fun one to work with.


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Nice! I've read quite a few posts from cultivators struggling at getting them to fruit. I'm not that concerned if they fruit or not but I'm sure going to try! Have any of you tried moving the stones outside? I keep having these fucking outdoor grow dreams... They are driving me crazy.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Kalistis]
    #22481044 - 11/05/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Stevo has a thread where he did outdoor patches and they started fruiting all over his yard.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: oontribe]
    #22481047 - 11/05/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I very well could be...


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Kalistis]
    #22481062 - 11/05/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Lol sorry i thought you are a guy!




I very well could be...




Well very nice nails and legs if so.  Mushrooms do make you gay I hear, so maybe that's got something to do with it.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: DrCrumbs]
    #22481064 - 11/05/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Alt#7 I just went MS to grain, no problem. At the time I would do grains and agar at the same time whenever I got a new species/var.

I found a syringe with about a 0.5cc left in it from about 4 years ago. It went through some really cold winters though. I kind of wanna throw some of it on a pasty plate and see if it'll germinate.

I wasn't able to get it fruit, I only tried to fruit one jar after getting stones.




I for some reason thought syringes weren't good after a couple of months? It's part of the reason I have so many projects going currently. I'm working to get successful grows cloned, then stored on slants.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Kalistis]
    #22481077 - 11/05/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You guys all act like fags from time to time. It was only a matter of time before it started to rub off on me. So when do I get to see your pretty painted nails and nice girlish figure?


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Kalistis]
    #22481079 - 11/05/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Haha syringes probably last longer than slants overall.  :lol:  Varieties stabilized through MS are best stored as prints/syringes and clones and isolates are best stored as slants.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Kalistis]
    #22481084 - 11/05/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've thought the same thing, but according to quite a few TCs Syringes can last a couple years easily.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Achillita]
    #22481117 - 11/05/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

FFS. Lol. At least I'm getting experience under the belt.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Kalistis]
    #22481210 - 11/05/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

My concern is that they most likely froze like 4 times. I tried a burma syringe, however it only had like 0.2 CC left. So it prob died when it was ejected through the hot needle. The other issue is it went onto muda jar.

Course you don't see the sterilize with freezing thread.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Grey]
    #22482387 - 11/05/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've gotten both ATL#7 && Tampanesis to fruit, no problem.
What I've noticed is that they like a "resting period"

For some reason mexicana spp like to go arid.. Don't ask me why 'cause idk, but they do :confused:

I'll bring my substrate to field capacity like I do all my other subs before pasteurization/spawning.. But my mexicana tubs always go dry @ 100% colonization.

keep everything moist, she'll be happy.

Just something I've noticed.

Here's my current Tampanesis tray..sorta slacked on maintenance.
 
IMO it isn't as hard to fruit them as it is to mature thus said fruits. They are harder than pans, atleast to me.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22482412 - 11/05/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

what do you mean resting period?


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Grey]
    #22482422 - 11/05/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Stevo has a thread where he did outdoor patches and they started fruiting all over his yard.




They grew great in my jalapeño pepper plant



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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: 99.99]
    #22482611 - 11/05/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, you and someone else had really good pot grows...I forget. Captain future had some good bag grows too.


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22482795 - 11/05/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Fantastic Mr. Fox said:
I've gotten both ATL#7 && Tampanesis to fruit, no problem.
What I've noticed is that they like a "resting period"

For some reason mexicana spp like to go arid.. Don't ask me why 'cause idk, but they do :confused:

I'll bring my substrate to field capacity like I do all my other subs before pasteurization/spawning.. But my mexicana tubs always go dry @ 100% colonization.

keep everything moist, she'll be happy.

Just something I've noticed.

Here's my current Tampanesis tray..sorta slacked on maintenance.
 
IMO it isn't as hard to fruit them as it is to mature thus said fruits. They are harder than pans, atleast to me.




I wonder if the extended resting period is due to the exorbitant amount of energy put forth by the mycelium into creating the stones? Does the metabolism for truffle producing mushrooms vary from that of other mushrooms?


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Re: Alt# 7 [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22485177 - 11/06/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Does anyone know if there are other Galindoi varieties that are commercially available? Is the whole 'ATL7 is a good stone producer' story bunk? is ATL7 in fact a 'regular' galindoi spore specimen?



I know of no others available. When it was first developed it sounded like at least 2 would be released. Workman/sporeworks originally had 7 prints which gave rise to 5 cultures.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4123889

you can see #7 was not in the top 3 contenders early on, and Workman did talk of releasing #1.


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    #22485223 - 11/06/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What happened to Workman, he hasnt been on in a long time?


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