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    #22478339 - 11/04/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

As the advent of googling and smartphones has arisen, I have seen many a debate settled with "Hold up let me google this."

This wasn't possible even just twenty years ago, at-least not as efficiently as now.

What are the implications of this, do you think it has or will have an effect on society in any way?


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: hTx]
    #22478413 - 11/04/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I honestly don't know what it means yet.  Has it gone beyond convenience?  Have any real revolutions been triggered yet?  Is one imminent? All I can say is that I guess AI will have plenty to chew on when it comes online.


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: hTx]
    #22478500 - 11/04/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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What are the implications of this, do you think it has or will have an effect on society in any way?




https://www.google.com/search?q=What+are+the+implications+of+this%2C+do+you+think+it+has+or+will+have+an+effect+on+society+in+any+way%3F&oq=What+are+the+implications+of+this%2C+do+you+think+it+has+or+will+have+an+effect+on+society+in+any+way%3F&aqs

After searching it on google i think you make a very valid point. :lol:

It really has removed a lot of subjectivity but at the same time creates it's own. How much subjective stuff do you see in online news articles, facebook, google, or even here in the shroomery?


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: Toadstool5]
    #22478523 - 11/04/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Plenty, however, given enough digging, objectivity can be found easily.

It doesn't take long for a claim to quickly be debunked or debated.


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: hTx]
    #22478596 - 11/04/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It depends on the subject matter. A lot of stuff isn't agreed upon even by experts so a google search won't do much good. Too much opinion parading as fact. I do think overall though google has contributed to fact settling.


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: hTx]
    #22479255 - 11/05/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I agree, it changed us. But you forget that many people are completely inept with computers/smartphone/internet. They dont kniw what to trust, or just trust the first thing they read. The rise of ever mire ridiculous conspiracy thoeries is cause by the internet same goes for other fringe polics that seem to get more traction.

The internet transforms us, but how is still unclear. I believes it makes the mediiocre more able, the intelligent more intelligent and powerful. And the dumb even dumber.


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: RennHuhn]
    #22479270 - 11/05/15 02:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think it is amusing that Guiness book of world records was created to solve bar arguments, which used to turn violent. Now when some blow hard starts spewing BS he can proved wrong in 10 seconds.
Internet is bad for spreading conspiracies though. And bad science like the anti vaxers. In some ways its helping with bringing about an age of ignorance and belief in nonsense.
We have all the books ever written available for free and people spend their time not learning for free, but just looking at nonsense.


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: hTx]
    #22480748 - 11/05/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

"The world consists in facts, not things"

Wittgenstein; Tractatus, 1921


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: hTx]
    #22480752 - 11/05/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

the most narcissistic generation ever


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: White Beard]
    #22480790 - 11/05/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Most apathetic and generally uncaring. Socially obsessed and value others more than themselves. They "learn" by nit picking others they see as "bigots" so they can be In this cool kids club. Reddit is a great of example of where these people dwell.

Also, white beard, narcissism is an over used term used by politicians to get people to stop having self interest. There are healthy things that come from being able to look at yourself in a mirror and have self interest. They want people to be sheep and subject themselves to working at McDonald's without looking in a mirror and doing some soul searching, because it throws a wrench in the gears of the system


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: eehoo]
    #22480898 - 11/05/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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eehoo said:
Also, white beard, narcissism is an over used term used by politicians to get people to stop having self interest. There are healthy things that come from being able to look at yourself in a mirror and have self interest.




There is a difference between having self-esteem and narcissism. There is a difference between being able to look at yourself in the mirror and taking 5000 selfies with filters/PSing to post on the web to get as many likes as possible. Narcissists tend to have low self-esteem


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: Kurt]
    #22480903 - 11/05/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Kurt said:
"The world consists in facts, not things"

Wittgenstein; Tractatus, 1921




a pragmatist might argue, that facts are only valid insofar as they are useful..

and google is super useful in helping you do things..

i learnt my entire job through googling, and my replacement said he had done the exact same.

google is like having morpheus on the other end of the line, telling you when to move and where..

in conclusion, google is great and we will be able to do many more things if we are good at following instructions, these are new skills humans will need to become good at while old skills like 'memorising shit' are redundant and that part of our brain will shrivel up and die

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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: White Beard]
    #22480920 - 11/05/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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White Beard said:
Quote:

eehoo said:
Also, white beard, narcissism is an over used term used by politicians to get people to stop having self interest. There are healthy things that come from being able to look at yourself in a mirror and have self interest.




There is a difference between having self-esteem and narcissism. There is a difference between being able to look at yourself in the mirror and taking 5000 selfies with filters/PSing to post on the web to get as many likes as possible. Narcissists tend to have low self-esteem



Lol oh okay yeah I can relate to what you're saying there. There are definitely huge self esteem and identity issues with newest generations


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: White Beard]
    #22480927 - 11/05/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i'll be your mirror :ohwell:



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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: quinn]
    #22480942 - 11/05/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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quinn said:
Quote:

Kurt said:
"The world consists in facts, not things"

Wittgenstein; Tractatus, 1921




these are new skills humans will need to become good at while old skills like 'memorising shit' are redundant and that part of our brain will shrivel up and die

:sadyes:




What are these new skills you speak of


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: eehoo]
    #22480969 - 11/05/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

googling! lol

searching the web for stuff. being efficient, filtering out useless information, being able to follow instructions.

knowing when googling will and wont be useful.

it's not actually that easy especially for older generations who arent familiar with it..

and just general tech literacy, using email and word and excel effectively...



now question for you and whitebeard:
why do you think the new generations have identity and narcisism issues? cos they take selfies??


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: quinn]
    #22481189 - 11/05/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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google is like having morpheus on the other end of the line, telling you when to move and where..




:lmafo: this made my day!!!!

The internet can teach you almost anything. I got an internship in an organic chem lab when i was younger because of google, learnt how to garden and grow mushrooms from google, i can do many small engine repairs thanks to google, and my current job as a contractor was given to me because of my reliability and ability to efficiently use my android mini on the job site to communicate all necessary details to my boss in texas.

Thanks to the internet I don't need to pay a professor to tell me which books to read AND i can work for companies all over the world :shrug:

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why do you think the new generations have identity and narcisism issues? cos they take selfies??




Not all of us take selfies. I have tried almost my entire life to avoid photos all together :lol:

I will agree most of our generation has identity issues and many of the social media users (young or old) are narcissistic as all holy hell.

With the economy tanked we have no confidence and therefore feel lost and worried about how certain our future is or even who we are any more. Social media is filled with sociopaths who use technology to up their game in using people to inflate themselves. My sister solely uses facebook for this reason and has about 5 different profiles :facepalm:


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: quinn]
    #22481373 - 11/05/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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now question for you and whitebeard:
why do you think the new generations have identity and narcisism issues? cos they take selfies??




social media in general. We now can easily compare one another based on how many friends you have, how attractive you are, how many likes your photos get, how many social events you're tagged in, your relationship status, your work and education, etc. Nothing is private anymore and people feel compelled to share everything about their lives with the internet to get validation cause that's what everyone is doing, regardless of consequences.


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: White Beard]
    #22481575 - 11/05/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think we need SOME KIND of quality control... there are pages and forums to support almost any viewpoint, pathological or not.


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Re: Most Objective Generation Ever? [Re: circastes]
    #22481714 - 11/05/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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circastes said:
I think we need SOME KIND of quality control... there are pages and forums to support almost any viewpoint, pathological or not.




do you realize the implications of this statement? or do you rarely look at yourself?


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