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lurkinggoat
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having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics)
#22476975 - 11/04/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just wanted to start out by saying, you guys have been super helpful and my first monotub would never grown as good as it did without everyones help on here.
Many of my shrooms have a decent amount of mycelium grown around the base (prolly due to a lack of ideal FAE) I'm trying my best here but have also read that it's pretty normal and completely harmless.
I harvested the first flush and have been drying them out on top a furnace filter over a box fan. My only concern is that i didn't realize how easy that stuff is too peel off pre-drying and I didn't want to bruise the fruits. Post dry is another story,.. The stuff is nearly impossible to peel off. Comes off in small chunks and is not worth the hassle.
I'm hoping that this stuff is totally fine to eat? Also is there any extra psilocybin in this part? The stuff is hardly noticeable to they eye but you can feel the difference on the shroom. It's very airy and extremely light. Hopefully these pics will paint a better picture.
pic of 2nd flush showing mycelium at the base

pic of halfway dry stem with the mycelium already to dry to easily peel off

same thing but more dry
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: lurkinggoat]
#22476997 - 11/04/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nothing wrong with that, fine to eat. As far as i know then there is not a specific point on a active mushroom where the potency is better than the rest of the mushroom. Should be the same all over
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: Yerow]
#22477715 - 11/04/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not going to swear on it, but the way I understand it, the mycelium itself contains psilocybin once it starts fruiting.
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: lurkinggoat]
#22477765 - 11/04/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The entire fruit is made from the same mycelium. The entire fruit will fuzz up with new mycelium if you clone it to agar.
Fuzzy feet are from low FAE and totally safe to leave on and eat 
As far a potency, it does have some psilocybin/cin from maturing but it is weaker than the stipe and cap.
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: Toadstool5]
#22477809 - 11/04/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fuzzy feet can also be genetic. Very common in indoor grows too. Not uncommon in 2nd and 3rd flushes. Totally fine to eat. No less potent. Munch away.
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: Kalistis]
#22477866 - 11/04/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Next time cut your fruit at the stem with scissors. Don't worry about leaving the stem butts behind because they are undigestible anyway and the reason why some people get stomach aches when tripping. Cutting them with scissors is less messy, you won't have any verm stuck to the base. If verm sticks on them stem you can always clean it off with a dry toothbrush.
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: PsilocyBen17]
#22477876 - 11/04/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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PsilocyBen17 said: Next time cut your fruit at the stem with scissors. Don't worry about leaving the stem butts behind because they are undigestible anyway and the reason why some people get stomach aches when tripping.
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: LocN9ne]
#22477906 - 11/04/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said:
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PsilocyBen17 said: Next time cut your fruit at the stem with scissors. Don't worry about leaving the stem butts behind because they are undigestible anyway and the reason why some people get stomach aches when tripping.

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RogerRabbit said: endous amount of disinformation on this site, propagated by noobs ten years ago, and it's still there in the archives.
I'm sick to tears of trying to correct it, so to hell with it. If anyone wishes to rip out large chunks of substrate, damaging the mycelium and leaving substrate exposed to mold, go for it. 'Rot' is bacteria, and any experienced grower knows bacteria is not a contaminant of the fruiting process, but only of the early spawn run process. Mushrooms are 100% mycelium, not plant matter, therefore, the stem butts left behind at harvest do not rot.
I'd suggest to take a tour of any mushroom farm in your area. If you see them harvesting by ripping the fruits out, take a picture. I know for a fact that you'll only find them harvesting with a sharp knife, leaving the stem butts in the substrate.
This thread gets repeated at least once a week, as if constantly bringing up outdated and bad info posted by noobs who have long since gone back to smoking crack due to constant failure at mushroom growing, is somehow going to change what should and should not be done. RR
Hey RR how would you handled aborts the same way?
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: LocN9ne]
#22477933 - 11/04/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sweet! This is good news! Thanks everyone.
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: lurkinggoat]
#22478075 - 11/04/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Regardless of what rr says. Leaving stems behind sucks. Try it both ways. You will see. Rr isn't always right.
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: tahoe]
#22478099 - 11/04/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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heres the other post I've been looking for...
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RogerRabbit said: Don't eat the stem butt. It's tough and non-digestable so it always makes one feel the need to puke. RR
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: PsilocyBen17]
#22478128 - 11/04/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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they are undigestible anyway and the reason why some people get stomach aches
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Edible mushrooms should be tenderized by heating to at least 140 ˚F —over many hours— more preferably over 180˚F, most preferably above 200 ˚F to release their nutrients and render them digestible and safe.
http://hostdefense.com/resources/articles/102-raw-mushrooms
All raw mushrooms are hard to digest and will cause discomfort, nausea, and other problems in sensitive individuals. Tea is advisable for anyone since there is some heat treatment involved and the chitin is not digested
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: Toadstool5]
#22478155 - 11/04/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess I have an iron gut! I never get GI upset from mushrooms and I twisted out all of my shrooms. My substrate's surface looks pretty unaffected by my harvest afterwards and new pins pop up in the same spots old ones were. Does that happen when you had a canopy of fruit and harvested with a knife or do the new pins have to grow around the old stumps?
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: Kalistis]
#22478164 - 11/04/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those are some fuckin fat caps dude, nice.
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Toadstool5
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Re: having post harvest issues. advice wanted! (w/pics) [Re: Kalistis]
#22478168 - 11/04/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I pinch and twist personally and yes new pins form at those spots. I have to say this is one of those things i disagree with RR on in regards to cubes. For a lot if not most edibles i think he is correct in saying leave the stem.
I have crohns disease and haven't had an issue with it either but i always dry really well and eat them on a full stomach. Lately i have switched over to tea though because semi-cooked agaricus really messed me up a few weeks ago.
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