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enemjay
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Help IDing what I believe are Cyanescens
#22476597 - 11/04/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking to identify these mushrooms. Psilocybe cyanescens I believe - currently working to better distinguish common hallucinogenic Psilocybes from dangerous look-alikes (specifically G. autumnalis/ G. marginata and G. veneata.) Fortunately the bluing on these specimens seems pretty profound and I don't think you'd be able to characterize the spore print as anything a Galerina could produce (absolutely not rusty brown). Finally got a more mature specimen though would have liked to have gotten more than half!
Habitat: Wood chips or mulch. It's early November a couple days after a rainstorm weekend.
Gills: grayish/lightish gills, not attached I'm guessing (meaning it is either free, adnexed, or sinuated right?).
Stem: green/blue veiny in the field unpicked and after being picked and handled, have stained even more (is this greenish hue characteristic of cyans?), stipe looks fibrous to me, hollow, moderately thick.
Cap: caramel, viscid when wet, because they're young they have conical caps but the more mature half has flattened out and is slightly wavy, convex.
Spore print color: Looks purplish to me...
Bruising: I marked one of the images with 3 red arrows to indicate where I jabbed the stem with my fingernail. Bruising quite evident there.

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Re: Help IDing what I believe are Cyanescens [Re: enemjay]
#22476602 - 11/04/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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P. cyanescens indeed. Congratulations.
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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it. If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.
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PNWMusicMaker
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Re: Help IDing what I believe are Cyanescens [Re: enemjay]
#22476605 - 11/04/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would call those Cyanescens. Two of them are fairly immature and unless you plan on using them the stem butts should be left behind.
Nice finds. Wait for a TI to confirm.
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Re: Help IDing what I believe are Cyanescens [Re: enemjay]
#22476607 - 11/04/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rough shape, but looks like them to me
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enemjay
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Re: Help IDing what I believe are Cyanescens [Re: PNWMusicMaker]
#22476706 - 11/04/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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PNWMusicMaker said: ...unless you plan on using them the stem butts should be left behind.
How long would you say the butts would survive left out in the open before they'd no longer be able to reintegrate back into a habitat?
Also, would spore print paper be able to spawn new mycelium?
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Re: Help IDing what I believe are Cyanescens [Re: enemjay]
#22476839 - 11/04/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not sure how long it stays viable personally. I have some started on shredded brown paper and they seem to be okay with it so far.
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Re: Help IDing what I believe are Cyanescens [Re: PNWMusicMaker]
#22477644 - 11/04/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
PNWMusicMaker said: Two of them are fairly immature...
For future referance - could the immature ones be uprooted and transplanted to a more "private" place to further mature or would the shock halt their growth?
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Re: Help IDing what I believe are Cyanescens [Re: enemjay]
#22477668 - 11/04/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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A couple of carefully harvested chips colonized by the mycellium, or better the very butts of the stems of whatever specimens are harvested can be used as spawn or to generate spawn for propagation. Think of them much as you might a seed potato or a plant cutting, but with the substrate requirements/preferences of the mushroom species in question (fine, undecomposed woody debris and regular moisture, and preferably some shade and protection from wind).
You will on the other hand find much sentiment that it is wasteful to unnecessarily harvest those specimens which are immature, or too much so, as on one hand they will if undisturbed get larger, on another they will get the chance to produce and distribute their spores into the surrounding environment and to some extent that any damage to the colony including harvest should be done judiciously whenever possible.
The later point may not be particularly important in such cases as premature harvest but the other two points are patently true. I only say show what respect and care you can for the patch for it's sake and your continued access. I would add try not to trample and compact the substrate excessively when possible.
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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it. If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.
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Re: Help IDing what I believe are Cyanescens [Re: canid]
#22479030 - 11/05/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The stems butts and adjoining wood chips can totally dry out and then still be used to start new patches.
I keep all live stems and would chips in a bag in a cool place. You could put them in the fridge
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Re: Help IDing what I believe are Cyanescens [Re: tahoe]
#22479039 - 11/05/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good point. It's been my observation that tahoe is pretty knowledgeable.
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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it. If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.
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