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Oh shit.. I'm actually reading Carson's pro-life stance and it's what us 'liberals' like to call pro-choice. 
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“He believes in quality medical care, No. 1, and secondly, he believes in people making their own decisions based on facts and information,” said Carson communications director Doug Watts, when asked whether Carson stands by his previous decisions to refer women whose fetuses had genetic defects to doctors who provide abortions. He does, Watts said.
“He believes people ought to have all the facts available to them, but he is steadfastly opposed to abortion,” Watts continued. “Referring it on does not mean he is advocating it, he’s advocating they are getting qualified medical supervision. He has always believed that the battle over abortion had to be waged in the hearts and minds of Americans, that you cannot legislate morality. But he also believes we’re winning the debate.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/ben-carson-abortion-stance-121456#ixzz3qduM61Tw
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paperbackwriter said: Oh shit.. I'm actually reading Carson's pro-life stance and it's what us 'liberals' like to call pro-choice. 
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“He believes in quality medical care, No. 1, and secondly, he believes in people making their own decisions based on facts and information,” said Carson communications director Doug Watts, when asked whether Carson stands by his previous decisions to refer women whose fetuses had genetic defects to doctors who provide abortions. He does, Watts said.
“He believes people ought to have all the facts available to them, but he is steadfastly opposed to abortion,” Watts continued. “Referring it on does not mean he is advocating it, he’s advocating they are getting qualified medical supervision. He has always believed that the battle over abortion had to be waged in the hearts and minds of Americans, that you cannot legislate morality. But he also believes we’re winning the debate.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/ben-carson-abortion-stance-121456#ixzz3qduM61Tw
So... If liberals are so "pro choice" and think the patient should have all the info, why do they vehemently oppose ultrasounds and adoption counseling???
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They're not denied those things. I think that qualifies as having the "facts available to them".
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Many people also know the story of when I did research on fetal tissue. But I'm pro-life and believe that there's nothing to gain from fetal research now.
If anyone is qualified to make that assertion, it's him. He has seen and done the research. That makes him MORE knowledgable on the subject.
On the subject of Carson, the liberal transparency is on display
The point is, he is a fucking liar. He is creating a fake Republican persona to get elected. He doesn't believe the garbage he says he does because no educated person believes that nonsense. It is disgusting. He used the system to get a leg up, and now wants to destroy it and create an atmosphere in which his black brothers and sisters will be persecuted even more by the wat on drugs. He's a fuckin token ass house nigga parroting the evil of his party to save a little on taxes. He is the devil.
He said those things about trying to stab people etc., in defense of himself against Trumps assertion that he is spineless. He is proud of those things.
You're ignoring what I am saying to manufacture outrage. I don't give a fuck whether he has a D, I, or R behind his name. I am judging based on his character. He's just another sick fucking Republican in a looong fucking line.
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Re: Shocking Ben Carson interview [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Many people also know the story of when I did research on fetal tissue. But I'm pro-life and believe that there's nothing to gain from fetal research now.
If anyone is qualified to make that assertion, it's him. He has seen and done the research. That makes him MORE knowledgable on the subject.
thats a decent point. I knew we would agree on something eventually HU.
this shouldn't be construed as an endorsement of anything else the guy says, just an acknowledgment of his expertise in that particular field
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“Abortion is a hard enough thing for any woman to decide without the torture of seeing the baby on an ultrasound screen.” - Dr. L. Lacroix of Planned Parenthood
I wonder if seeing a picture is more tortuous than having your brains scrambled with a fork, having you limbs torn off, or your beating heart torn out?
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paperbackwriter said: They're not denied those things. I think that qualifies as having the "facts available to them".
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“Abortion is a hard enough thing for any woman to decide without the torture of seeing the baby on an ultrasound screen.” - Dr. L. Lacroix of Planned Parenthood
I wonder if seeing a picture is more tortuous than having your brains scrambled with a fork, having you limbs torn off, or your beating heart torn out?
Forcing a women to have an ultrasound is different than making it available if she wants one.
As far as your question, fetuses most likely don't feel pain prior to 24 weeks. I don't support late term abortions unless it's to save the life of the mother or if the fetus is showing extreme defects.
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paperbackwriter said: They're not denied those things. I think that qualifies as having the "facts available to them".
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“Abortion is a hard enough thing for any woman to decide without the torture of seeing the baby on an ultrasound screen.” - Dr. L. Lacroix of Planned Parenthood
I wonder if seeing a picture is more tortuous than having your brains scrambled with a fork, having you limbs torn off, or your beating heart torn out?
That's a late term abortion, and nobody advocates that, that I know of.
Ehem...
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That's a late term abortion, and nobody advocates that, that I know of.
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That's a late term abortion, and nobody advocates that, that I know of.

Obama did, he advocated strongly for partial birth abortions( that's the one where the child is half born, but still has one foot in the vag so it's still just a clump of cells) and a baby has a heartbeat after 18 days yet there is no nervous system? Y'all is really fucking dumb if you believe that
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That's a late term abortion, and nobody advocates that, that I know of.

Obama did, he advocated strongly for partial birth abortions( that's the one where the child is half born, but still has one foot in the vag so it's still just a clump of cells) and a baby has a heartbeat after 18 days yet there is no nervous system? Y'all is really fucking dumb if you believe that
Source that claim, please.
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