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Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/03/feds-say-illinois-school-district-broke-law-by-banning-trans-student-from-girls-locker-room/
"On Monday, the Obama administration again weighed in on the issue with the release of a report slamming a suburban Chicago public school district for not providing a transgender student with access to the girls' locker room."
"The school district now has 30 days to reach an agreement with authorities or risk losing up to $6 million in federal funding. The case could also be referred to the Department of Justice."
The school fights back- "But school officials did not back down on Monday, insisting that they "remain strong on our belief that the District's course of action...appropriately serves the dignity and privacy of all students in our educational environment"
So will transgender students be allowed to shower with students of the opposite sex? The Feds say yes.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: qman] 7
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This shit is getting out of hand. I'm all for letting people do whatever the fk they want, but just as I feel like we shouldn't restrict anyone from doing something, we also shouldn't be catering to anything either.
TBH if I had a youngish daughter in school that had to use locker rooms and showers, I wouldn't want some dude in there showering with her.
Specially with these ones that say they're a chick, but still like women, and have a dick? I mean for real? You're going to have someone who likes women, has a dick, and is probably bigger/stronger then the females it is now allowed to shower with?
If it still has a dick, it's a guy and should be in the men's locker room. Got your dick cut off? Fine go in the ladies room all you want
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Chuckfinely]
#22475089 - 11/04/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's racist.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: qman]
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qman said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/03/feds-say-illinois-school-district-broke-law-by-banning-trans-student-from-girls-locker-room/
"On Monday, the Obama administration again weighed in on the issue with the release of a report slamming a suburban Chicago public school district for not providing a transgender student with access to the girls' locker room."
"The school district now has 30 days to reach an agreement with authorities or risk losing up to $6 million in federal funding. The case could also be referred to the Department of Justice."
The school fights back- "But school officials did not back down on Monday, insisting that they "remain strong on our belief that the District's course of action...appropriately serves the dignity and privacy of all students in our educational environment"
So will transgender students be allowed to shower with students of the opposite sex? The Feds say yes.
was there some kind of legislation passed or maybe a supreme court ruling about allowing people with penises to use the girls locker room/rest room?
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Sun King]
#22475102 - 11/04/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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dicks are racist or are girls racist... I'm confused
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22475145 - 11/04/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Who's deciding whether or not it should be allowed for trans people to use bathrooms meant for the opposite sex? If it's not the girls using those bathrooms, they're doing it wrong.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22475150 - 11/04/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not letting people do what they want is racist.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Sun King]
#22475178 - 11/04/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sun King said: Not letting people do what they want is racist.
I want to kill 6 billion people
dont try to stop me or you're a racist
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Sun King]
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Prisoner#1]
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qman said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/03/feds-say-illinois-school-district-broke-law-by-banning-trans-student-from-girls-locker-room/
"On Monday, the Obama administration again weighed in on the issue with the release of a report slamming a suburban Chicago public school district for not providing a transgender student with access to the girls' locker room."
"The school district now has 30 days to reach an agreement with authorities or risk losing up to $6 million in federal funding. The case could also be referred to the Department of Justice."
The school fights back- "But school officials did not back down on Monday, insisting that they "remain strong on our belief that the District's course of action...appropriately serves the dignity and privacy of all students in our educational environment"
So will transgender students be allowed to shower with students of the opposite sex? The Feds say yes.
was there some kind of legislation passed or maybe a supreme court ruling about allowing people with penises to use the girls locker room/rest room?
"violation of Title IX, that bars discrimination in federally funded education programs"
Or basically financial blackmail.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Sun King]
#22475196 - 11/04/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Sun King said: Not letting people do what they want is racist.
I want to kill 6 billion people
dont try to stop me or you're a racist
I doubt you can kill 6 billion people.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: qman]
#22475204 - 11/04/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/03/feds-say-illinois-school-district-broke-law-by-banning-trans-student-from-girls-locker-room/
"On Monday, the Obama administration again weighed in on the issue with the release of a report slamming a suburban Chicago public school district for not providing a transgender student with access to the girls' locker room."
"The school district now has 30 days to reach an agreement with authorities or risk losing up to $6 million in federal funding. The case could also be referred to the Department of Justice."
The school fights back- "But school officials did not back down on Monday, insisting that they "remain strong on our belief that the District's course of action...appropriately serves the dignity and privacy of all students in our educational environment"
So will transgender students be allowed to shower with students of the opposite sex? The Feds say yes.
was there some kind of legislation passed or maybe a supreme court ruling about allowing people with penises to use the girls locker room/rest room?
"violation of Title IX, that bars discrimination in federally funded education programs"
Or basically financial blackmail. 
it doesnt appear to be discrimination based on physiology.
maybe obama needs to dip into his tens of millions and buy this transgendered person their own bathroom
this is also one of the reasons we dont need the feds in the education system
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Sun King]
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Sun King said: Not letting people do what they want is racist.
I want to kill 6 billion people
dont try to stop me or you're a racist
I doubt you can kill 6 billion people.
I'm sure my arm would get tired after a bit but that's when I have to become creative
I'm sure some racist asshole would try to stop me
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Webster10]
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Prisoner#1]
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qman said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/03/feds-say-illinois-school-district-broke-law-by-banning-trans-student-from-girls-locker-room/
"On Monday, the Obama administration again weighed in on the issue with the release of a report slamming a suburban Chicago public school district for not providing a transgender student with access to the girls' locker room."
"The school district now has 30 days to reach an agreement with authorities or risk losing up to $6 million in federal funding. The case could also be referred to the Department of Justice."
The school fights back- "But school officials did not back down on Monday, insisting that they "remain strong on our belief that the District's course of action...appropriately serves the dignity and privacy of all students in our educational environment"
So will transgender students be allowed to shower with students of the opposite sex? The Feds say yes.
was there some kind of legislation passed or maybe a supreme court ruling about allowing people with penises to use the girls locker room/rest room?
"violation of Title IX, that bars discrimination in federally funded education programs"
Or basically financial blackmail. 
it doesnt appear to be discrimination based on physiology.
maybe obama needs to dip into his tens of millions and buy this transgendered person their own bathroom
this is also one of the reasons we dont need the feds in the education system
I agree, the Feds and education should remain separate.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: qman]
#22477077 - 11/04/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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if he still has a penis then he shouldn't be allowed in a girls locker room. I think he likes girls too and is bisexual, so he really shouldnt be allowed in there. If they allowed him in there, it would send a HORRIBLE message to the whole entire country, and then tons and TONS of boys would start putting on wigs and saying hey Im transgender let me into girls locker room, and next thing we know girls are being raped in the girls locker room by boys.
It makes NO SENSE AT ALL. Illinois needs to stand strong and refuse orders that are wrong.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: ShiVersblood] 1
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I always though communal showers were fucking weird.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: zappaisgod]
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22477124 - 11/04/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: ... maybe obama needs to dip into his tens of millions and buy this transgendered person their own bathroom ...
Rather than fund new bathrooms, just have Obama pay for the sex change operations and hormones. If you want to use the female locker room, the government will remove your penis. Obamacares.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Chuckfinely]
#22477281 - 11/04/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Chuckfinely said: This shit is getting out of hand. I'm all for letting people do whatever the fk they want, but just as I feel like we shouldn't restrict anyone from doing something, we also shouldn't be catering to anything either.
TBH if I had a youngish daughter in school that had to use locker rooms and showers, I wouldn't want some dude in there showering with her.
Specially with these ones that say they're a chick, but still like women, and have a dick? I mean for real? You're going to have someone who likes women, has a dick, and is probably bigger/stronger then the females it is now allowed to shower with?
If it still has a dick, it's a guy and should be in the men's locker room. Got your dick cut off? Fine go in the ladies room all you want
I agree with this.
Even fuckin Bruce Jenner came out and said he does NOT like dudes, he just feels like a women.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Tantrika]
#22478920 - 11/04/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: ... maybe obama needs to dip into his tens of millions and buy this transgendered person their own bathroom ...
Rather than fund new bathrooms, just have Obama pay for the sex change operations and hormones. If you want to use the female locker room, the government will remove your penis. Obamacares.

this needs to come out of obama's pocket, not mine, he's the one so hopped up on hormone heros that he wants to cut funding over this horse shit, the tranny can go shower and pee outside for all I care
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Also, how does someone even prove that they are transgender? People lie. My worry is that guys would abuse the system and just pretend to be transgender just to get in the girls locker room for sinister reasons.
They are basically trying to victimize females by trying to do this.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: ShiVersblood]
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I am just glad conservatives have a new group they can hate. They need to focus that hate on someone, and it's not cool to hate gays anymore so trannies it is. At least they can hide their hate behind terms like "values" and their "faith".
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: ShiVersblood]
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Stealth1Vampire said: Also, how does someone even prove that they are transgender? People lie. My worry is that guys would abuse the system and just pretend to be transgender just to get in the girls locker room for sinister reasons.
They are basically trying to victimize females by trying to do this.
In Canada, the government requires proof of surgery to change gender on IDs, so you could card people under similar provisions.
If surgeries are funded and required for entry, the barrier to entry gets higher. Can agree that people pretending to be transgender for purposes of invasion of privacy is a sinister prospect. Funding surgeries would also make this sort of masquerading more difficult to enact.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Tantrika] 1
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Trannies need to stop being such fucking pussies. Can you really not just use any fucking bathroom, they both have toilets.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Tantrika]
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No human being should go Trans, it's bad mkay
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: trees]
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Near Dylan]
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I don't really think it should matter what other people do 
Your right, we'll just continue to condone mental illness behavior that Involves self mutilation, use of dangerous hormone therapys, high rates of suicide and depression, loneliness and estrangement, instead of trying to help those people be comfortable with who they biologically are.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: trees] 1
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This is why I've been in favor of unisex bathrooms from the very beginning.
Separate gender bathrooms never made any sense to me. First of all, should homosexuals be using their own gender, or the other gender's bathroom they aren't attracted to? Don't even get me started on the trans-peeps.
I go to this restaurant/nightclub that has unisex bathrooms, my college dorms had unisex bathrooms, and as a matter of fact that's how I learned that I can pee standing up at a urinal.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: trees]
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Don't really want to get into this.. Goodnight, brother
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: trees]
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trees said: No human being should go Trans, it's bad mkay
I don't really think it should matter what other people do 
Your right, we'll just continue to condone mental illness behavior that Involves self mutilation, use of dangerous hormone therapys, high rates of suicide and depression, loneliness and estrangement, instead of trying to help those people be comfortable with who they biologically are.
You do realize you're on a drug forum that accepts all sorts of risky and outlandish behavior right? High rates of suicide, depression, loneliness, isolation, and mental illness among drug users as well. Why encourage drug use instead of trying to help those be comfortable sober? Same shit.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: zappaisgod]
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We don't allow females in the shower room in male prisons. Accordingly, we shouldn't allow boys in the girls locker rooms in highschool, I can't believe Obama does not understand that.
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Stealth1Vampire said: We don't allow females in the shower room in male prisons. Accordingly, we shouldn't allow boys in the girls locker rooms in highschool, I can't believe Obama does not understand that.
Tranny boys in locker rooms get beat up. It's a double sided issue, but I'm just saying, if I was allowed to use the girls' locker room in high school, it would've been a much better experience.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: I always though communal showers were fucking weird.
I don't know, I always thought so too, until I saw the communal showers in the cinematic masterpiece "Starship Troopers".
And also Robocop.
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I'm not sure if you're serious or not, that's the scary part here.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Turtletotem]
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22479348 - 11/05/15 03:03 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: America's blessings come from GOD. No nation can wage war against the source of its blessings and expect those blessings to remain.
CHRIST was born and lived in Palestine, the Gospels where written in Greek, the Church was born and centered in Rome, and the nation that is blessed is aparently the United States, which didn't even exist at the time.
All of this makes sense, I'm sure, but I don't get it.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Turtletotem] 1
#22479357 - 11/05/15 03:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: America's blessings come from GOD. No nation can wage war against the source of its blessings and expect those blessings to remain.

I'm not sure if you're serious or not, that's the scary part here.
If you have any doubt just look at all the bad things that happened to America since Roe v Wade. Before that decision to start killing our babies America never lost a war. Since that fateful decision America never won a war and has been in economic decline. Or look at a graph of inflation adjusted wages since Roe v Wade. It was the beginning of judgment as our blessings are being withdrawn.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22479369 - 11/05/15 03:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: America's blessings come from GOD. No nation can wage war against the source of its blessings and expect those blessings to remain.

I'm not sure if you're serious or not, that's the scary part here.
If you have any doubt just look at all the bad things that happened to America since Roe v Wade. Before that decision to start killing our babies America never lost a war. Since that fateful decision America never won a war and has been in economic decline. Or look at a graph of inflation adjusted wages since Roe v Wade. It was the beginning of judgment as our blessings are being withdrawn.
I'm not that fammiliar with American lore, was Roe Vs Wade an abortion thing?
But that's besides the point, God doesn't bless nations, only individuals in those nations.
This "God blessedour nation but withdrew it due to some transgression" is more how the old Germanic gods would operate, I thought the God of the Bible worked on a more individual level? As in, you live in Babylon, but are righteous in the eyes of the Lord, so He spares you when the destruction comes?
I'm no expert, tho. But I'm pretty sure God doesn't bless nations since Old Testament times.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Turtletotem]
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Maybe you're right. I was thinking he seperated nations into sheep and goats. Sheep were the followers and goats were judged poorly. I'll look into it some more.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Ellis Dee] 1
#22479387 - 11/05/15 03:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: Maybe you're right. I was thinking he seperated nations into sheep and goats. Sheep were the followers and goats were judged poorly. I'll look into it some more.
Well, I'm no expert on this matter. Just so you know. Good luck with your study!
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: my3rdeye] 1
#22479452 - 11/05/15 04:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said: I am just glad conservatives have a new group they can hate. They need to focus that hate on someone, and it's not cool to hate gays anymore so trannies it is. At least they can hide their hate behind terms like "values" and their "faith".
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/houston-anti-discrimination-ordinance-1.3303155
Lucky for the bleeding hearts, hating on conservatives will always be trendy according to the media's spin on things.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Webster10]
#22479458 - 11/05/15 04:29 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said: I am just glad conservatives have a new group they can hate. They need to focus that hate on someone, and it's not cool to hate gays anymore so trannies it is. At least they can hide their hate behind terms like "values" and their "faith".
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/houston-anti-discrimination-ordinance-1.3303155
Lucky for the bleeding hearts, hating on conservatives will always be trendy according to the media's spin on things.
Yeah, stoke the flames like that, instead of building a bridge. It's easier and feels betther just to call "them" names and shit, instead of trying to understand one another.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Turtletotem] 3
#22479464 - 11/05/15 04:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have no bridge to build on this issue. I don't support genetics deniers and I don't support violating the actual girls' privacy rights. If the freak doesn't want to shower and dress with people of his same gender, don't let it dress or shower at all. It's ridiculous that we reward genetics deniers with special privileges.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Webster10]
#22479481 - 11/05/15 04:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, at least you're honest.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: zappaisgod]
#22479724 - 11/05/15 07:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I always though communal showers were fucking weird.
I used to be nervous about them
but now i honestly doubt id have trouble using one at a public gym
also this is dumb  did this happen at Blind sophists college?
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: SunnyD]
#22480343 - 11/05/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I really dont get the big backlash against this.
put yourself in her shoes.
would you want to get naked and dressed next to a bunch of hairy sweaty asshole dudes if you legitimately felt/thought you were a woman? fuck no.
I love the argument that horny dudes are gonna use the transgender issue to get into girls locker room all it takes is one call home to the parents and that kid is going to get his ass kicked once the parents realize hes faking it.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: chulutu] 1
#22480351 - 11/05/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trans people need to just not go trans, problem solved. It's a selfish mental illness that affects everyone around them in a strange negative way.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: trees]
#22480359 - 11/05/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't be so negative bruh
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Turtletotem] 1
#22480445 - 11/05/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: God doesn't bless nations, only individuals in those nations.
Where are you getting your info?
Because it's wrong.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace] 1
#22480669 - 11/05/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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No straight guy is going to come out that he's trans just to get a look at some boobs in a locker room do you even know how hard that is on your social status? Yeah not worth it. Plus I'm pretty sure the boners would give you away.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
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A transgender guy could still be in the womens locker room with a fat stiffy.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: OsculateOfDemise] 1
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Males who have an identity crisis would be weak hunters and get eaten by predators. The fact we removed ourself from this and boxed out our environment in way of factory farming is the real issue. There are going to be bad mutations in the genome, and a species that has a gender identity issue is obviously a huge ailment and mental illness. It is best served to go back to the earth as nourishment for our brothers from a different mother (wolves, bears, mountain lions, etc). Cue the offended accept everything pussy responses ... Defend the weak and make fun of bullies! Yay America .. Call me Xe I do not associate with a gender any more! If it were like that then nobody ever would have died for good reason.., only masculine qualities bring that. If everyone had female qualities nobody would put their lives on the line...and if everyone were masculine there would be no loving mothers or general safety and caution for the most part. It's called balance. I do not accept transgenders but I don't blatantly oppose them. as long as they don't stare at my dick
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Herbologist]
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I mean I don't have much experience in penises as men but I don't imagine guys to be getting a hard on in the guys locker room all the time. I imagine the same expectations as a trans in the women's. Why isn't anyone asking how the females feel? As surely they would be the only ones 'offended' by this. Honestly I couldn't care less.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
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Caitlyn Jenner isn't attracted to dudes so I'd say thats a pretty prime example of a transgender male still feelings attractions for females.
I have seen a lot of posts on facebook and instagram where girls are very unhappy about it.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: OsculateOfDemise] 1
#22480770 - 11/05/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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OsculateOfDemise said: No straight guy is going to come out that he's trans just to get a look at some boobs in a locker room do you even know how hard that is on your social status? Yeah not worth it. Plus I'm pretty sure the boners would give you away.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Herbologist]
#22480848 - 11/05/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: Caitlyn Jenner isn't attracted to dudes so I'd say thats a pretty prime example of a transgender male still feelings attractions for females.
I have seen a lot of posts on facebook and instagram where girls are very unhappy about it.
Because they see the lack of integrity in that. Attention whores exist... Dr Marc Gordon did studies on gay people who are gay for attention
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Herbologist] 2
#22480852 - 11/05/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: Caitlyn Jenner isn't attracted to dudes so I'd say thats a pretty prime example of a transgender male still feelings attractions for females.
I have seen a lot of posts on facebook and instagram where girls are very unhappy about it.
Yet we don't make lesbians change in a separate locker room. I don't know if there is an easy answer here. I just think people should stop being so uptight about nudity. It's just a changing room, not a hook up room. It's basic human decency. You can be felt up, perved on wherever you go regardless of age or gender or location. So what if someone looks at you and thinks youre attractive. I've done that with females and I'm straight. If you're doing it in a locker room then you're just a weirdo.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: zappaisgod]
#22480862 - 11/05/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I always though communal showers were fucking weird.
I always thought the people who shied away from them were weird. In high school I would communally shower after every wrestling practice. There was nothing weird about it. What was weird were the boys who would put their school clothes back on to their sweat-drenched bodies and drive home in their cars, sweaty as fuck.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Capers]
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zappaisgod said: I always though communal showers were fucking weird.
I always thought the people who shied away from them were weird. In high school I would communally shower after every wrestling practice. There was nothing weird about it. What was weird were the boys who would put their school clothes back on to their sweat-drenched bodies and drive home in their cars, sweaty as fuck.
Same. I always go into the sauna and public locker rooms fully naked. No need for a towel wrapped around my body or anything. In my birthday suit.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
#22480875 - 11/05/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: Caitlyn Jenner isn't attracted to dudes so I'd say thats a pretty prime example of a transgender male still feelings attractions for females.
I have seen a lot of posts on facebook and instagram where girls are very unhappy about it.
Yet we don't make lesbians change in a separate locker room. I don't know if there is an easy answer here. I just think people should stop being so uptight about nudity. It's just a changing room, not a hook up room. It's basic human decency. You can be felt up, perved on wherever you go regardless of age or gender or location. So what if someone looks at you and thinks youre attractive. I've done that with females and I'm straight. If you're doing it in a locker room then you're just a weirdo.
That's the thing. What if one of these truly transgender males is also a piece of shit? We can't act like all transgenders are just good people.
How long before male human impulse gets the best of some low life piece of shit and he ends up raping a girl that was forced to use the same changing area?
This is an extreme but its a 100% possibility.
Also, lesbians aren't transgenders. They aren't suffering from some identity disorder, they just like chicks. And they dont have dicks.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Herbologist]
#22480884 - 11/05/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can say that with ANYONE. Why does the fact that the person is transgendered have anything to do with it. Do they have higher statistics of raping people? Also you don't have to have a dick to rape someone.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
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OsculateOfDemise said: You can say that with ANYONE. Why does the fact that the person is transgendered have anything to do with it. Do they have higher statistics of raping people?
You side stepped the entire subject of this thread. Were not talking about every day people in an every day situations.
Were talking about transgender males using female changing areas.
Also, I said male impulse from a piece of shit. I did NOT say, male impulse of a piece of shit transgender. That'd be different....
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: OsculateOfDemise] 3
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You guys are arguing as if a real rapist would be deterred by a bathroom sign.
"Oh shit, came here to rape somebody, but the sign says "Women Only," guess I can't enter here to rape anybody anymore."
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Crystal G]
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
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OsculateOfDemise said: No straight guy is going to come out that he's trans just to get a look at some boobs in a locker room do you even know how hard that is on your social status? Yeah not worth it. Plus I'm pretty sure the boners would give you away.
I disagree.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Herbologist] 1
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But they kind of are every day people... I just don't see how being transgender puts everyone else in that room at a higher risk of being raped. You're saying how a piece of shit can change the situation but like you said, that isn't stemmed to the whole transgender community. So can you tell me why it's the issue of a trans specifically in a locker room when you are showing your example on a hypothetical situation that could arise from any type of person
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
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Because thats what we are specifically talking about? Why else would I even mention it? This thread isnt about anything else....
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace] 1
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I disagree.
So you would constantly be teased and beat up, be socially shunned from many groups, live a lie and never get a girl friend just to get a peek at some boobs? Unlikely.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Herbologist] 1
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Herbologist said: Because thats what we are specifically talking about? Why else would I even mention it? This thread isnt about anything else.... 
I'm just saying it's not a strong argument since you can use that example for any one in the world, not just a trans in a locker room. Hardly the threat you are projecting it to be.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
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OsculateOfDemise said: No straight guy is going to come out that he's trans just to get a look at some boobs in a locker room do you even know how hard that is on your social status? Yeah not worth it. Plus I'm pretty sure the boners would give you away.
I disagree.
So you would constantly be teased and beat up, be socially shunned from many groups, live a lie and never get a girl friend just to get a peek at some boobs? Unlikely.
Damn, where did you grow up? I live in rural Alabama and have never seen such intolerance.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: OsculateOfDemise] 1
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So all transgender males using a female locker room are sweet hearts that wouldn't hurt a fly?
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Crystal G]
#22480970 - 11/05/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: You guys are arguing as if a real rapist would be deterred by a bathroom sign.
"Oh shit, came here to rape somebody, but the sign says "Women Only," guess I can't enter here to rape anybody anymore." 
Exactly! It's not like there is a guard checking to see if they are a guy or a girl walking in the bathroom. It's a bathroom, and it's easy as hell to go into any bathroom.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Achillita]
#22481039 - 11/05/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think it is fucked up to let this guy use the girls room, but i don't understand what is wrong with letting them use the bathroom in the nurse's office, or the teacher's lounge.
I guess the lounge would be bad cause then the kids would finally know about all the sinning that happens in there.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Crystal G]
#22481057 - 11/05/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: You guys are arguing as if a real rapist would be deterred by a bathroom sign.
"Oh shit, came here to rape somebody, but the sign says "Women Only," guess I can't enter here to rape anybody anymore." 
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
#22481223 - 11/05/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yet we don't make lesbians change in a separate locker room. I don't know if there is an easy answer here. I just think people should stop being so uptight about nudity. It's just a changing room, not a hook up room. It's basic human decency. You can be felt up, perved on wherever you go regardless of age or gender or location. So what if someone looks at you and thinks youre attractive. I've done that with females and I'm straight. If you're doing it in a locker room then you're just a weirdo.
this is where i'm at with it. we can't stop kids from fooling around anywhere really. and i hardly doubt anyone would claim to be transgender just to shower with girls.
but by all means, let's get back to being mad at stuff we don't understand.
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Re: Feds say Illinois School District Broke Law by Banning Transgender Student from Girls' Locker Room [Re: Crystal G]
#22481513 - 11/05/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I always though communal showers were fucking weird.
I always thought the people who shied away from them were weird. In high school I would communally shower after every wrestling practice. There was nothing weird about it. What was weird were the boys who would put their school clothes back on to their sweat-drenched bodies and drive home in their cars, sweaty as fuck.
Same. I always go into the sauna and public locker rooms fully naked. No need for a towel wrapped around my body or anything. In my birthday suit.
I personally didn't have an issue with them. I just think it's fucking weird. And a lot of people do have an issue with them. Crystal, my dear, you really have no business ever presenting yourself as even the remotest bit representative of normal people. If I say you are batshit crazy will you argue with me? I think not.
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