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Newbie wondering if these are edible?
#22474594 - 11/04/15 06:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello! I am in the countryside for a bit and doing a lot of walking. Seeing some beaufitful mushrooms and really wondering if any of these are edible or what they are? I normally go for some very shady rules like.. if it looks very puffy then don't eat it. But I am starting to realise that isn't exactly the way. Thanks for being patience with a newbie in advance.
 This little guy is bruising dark blueish.

 Similarly these bruise darkly but they are very light, younger ones seem to have a nipple on top. But they are very yellow. There are lots of these so would be cool to know!
 Cant find any more of these. Seems to be a sort of liberty cap type thing but I am really not sure!
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Newbie wondering if these are edible? [Re: forageelf]
#22474724 - 11/04/15 07:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im pretty sure I have identified the yellow ones as Bolbitius titubans. Not edible and very common?
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Re: Newbie wondering if these are edible? [Re: forageelf]
#22474870 - 11/04/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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thats the first thing that came to my mind.
welcome to the forum! and congrats on a) working on identifying it yourself and not just sitting on your fingers waiting for someone else to do it for you and b) realizing that your 'old guidelines' are completely useless and might even be harmful and then actually taking some time to learn what you're doing.
keep posting your finds for confirmation
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Re: Newbie wondering if these are edible? [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#22476000 - 11/04/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you thank you! I have a tonne of vintage fungi books but in reality they are rather hard to use. Have made the effort with herbs, greens etc in the wild and now time to figure these funghi guys out!
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Re: Newbie wondering if these are edible? [Re: forageelf]
#22476004 - 11/04/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I still haven't had luck with the first one pictured. Any ideas? It's rather non description and tiny so not all that useful in any situation. But does have the blue grey bruising.
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Re: Newbie wondering if these are edible? [Re: forageelf]
#22476594 - 11/04/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The first one looks like a Psathyrella or possibly Panaeolus. I'd have to see a picture demonstrating very clearly in good even lighting the blueing you're talking about because first that is very unlikely and secondly I can't see it.
The fourth one could also be a Psathyrella but looks rather coprinoid.
I would recommend your vintage books be relegated to 'historical and collectible value'. Many of them, aside from being very out dated and likely to confuse you further while you begin to encounter the modern concepts of the taxonomy are often also very inaccurate even for their time if they are of the field guide type and not scientific publications.
All the best of luck, I hope it stays fun and you keep with it.
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Re: Newbie wondering if these are edible? [Re: canid]
#22476699 - 11/04/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ya, that first one looks like it might even be a 'pan foe' sometimes known as the bane of cinctulus hunters
just to chime in on my coffee break again, and parrot what canid said, the internet is by far a better resource than books due to the speed at with books get edited and printed, and the completely gonzo nomenclature changes due to genetic research that occur probably monthly nowdays. man thats a bad sentence. oh well. no time for edits.
take a look at www.mushroomexpert.com and www.mushroomobserver.org for some really good stuff to start, although the latter is better for searching for images to kind of confirm your thoughts and just great eyecandy, the former has great keys. mykoweb is another decent source.
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Re: Newbie wondering if these are edible? [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#22477464 - 11/04/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the tips.
Those books are pretty but agreed. I'll save them for prettiness and that alone. Thanks for those sites I will spend some good time with them. It's been a long held curiosity of mine so I'll be sticking with. (That was a bad sentence!)
Thanks again!
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Re: Newbie wondering if these are edible? [Re: forageelf]
#22477512 - 11/04/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It seems rather possible the first are as you have said. Although the risk of being Psathyrella seems.. Well risky! Thanks again!
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Re: Newbie wondering if these are edible? [Re: forageelf]
#22477528 - 11/04/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psathyrella are not particularly risky, they are just not interesting for food, recreational or magico-religious use. Much the same could be said for Panaeolus foenisecii and the various other non-psychoactive species within that genus.
I only know of one case involving alleged toxicity of Psathyrella and I find the account - while interesting - decidedly confused, implausible and poorly documented.
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Re: Newbie wondering if these are edible? [Re: canid]
#22477578 - 11/04/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you're interested, the incident in question is the intoxication of an English archaeobotanist/ethnobotonist named Gordon Hillman by what were dubiously identified as Psathyrella involving alcohol, visual disturbances, difficulty breathing and memory impairment. I personally suspect misidentification of Psilocybe or psychoactive Panaeolus, a mild psilocybian intoxication accompanied by anxiety over the experience and more or less complete irrelevance of the alcohol co-factor.
An (dubious and breif) account of the episode can be found in an episode of Ray Mears series Wild Food.
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Re: Newbie wondering if these are edible? [Re: canid]
#22477596 - 11/04/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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My next research projects..
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Re: Newbie wondering if these are edible? [Re: forageelf]
#22482226 - 11/05/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you Candid super interesting g. I did read about that case on the Mears show!
I shall let my search and research continue!
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