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Anonymous #1

Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? * 2
    #22473584 - 11/03/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

In America.  Do they think they're cool?  Do they think it's exotic?  For what ever reason white people loving thinking their great great great grandfather was a native american and this cultural idea I don't understand at all.  I'm sure 5% of them are true.  But why are white people, showing no signs of native american blood claiming they do have native american blood?


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22473619 - 11/03/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think more than 5% are.  I show no signs, my dad has a little visible, my grandpa obviouly had some.  His grandpa was american indian.  Ironically, that makes me 1/16 native... lol  But I look straight german/british.

More to the point, being white in america is a loathsome state to be in.  Anybody with any chance to claim non-white, non-european or even just non-british heritage is going to do it.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22473635 - 11/03/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You're one of them!  That's exactly what they all say!:lol:  Maybe you're that 5% but they literally ALL say the exact same thing you said to me.  They were told by a family member and believe it whole heartedly.  But then when you press them a little further their story gets pretty shaky, then get offended their genetic identity might be bullshit and just angrily claim their 1/X native american based off of nothing except uncle Johnny said so.  "Just trust me on this okay, i'm 1/X native american.  Stop asking questions, uncle johnny has no reason to lie, stop asking questions and let me believe in peace!"


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22473685 - 11/03/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Furthermore, I worked on a reservation for a few years!  Not that I would be allowed to stay though... I am too white.  :frown:


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Anonymous #3

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #22473696 - 11/03/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have the market cornered bro, I'm 1/64th.  Them 1/16th boys don't know shit man.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22473708 - 11/03/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Just did a quick google, and you are right.  About 5% have genetics of natives.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22473721 - 11/03/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Way more then 5% of white americans claim they are 1/X native american.  I want to know what the obsession and self deception is all about?  Is it the same reason why some white kids from the suburbs wish they were black?  Or is it a totally different self delusion.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22473744 - 11/03/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #1 said:
Way more then 5% of white americans claim they are 1/X native american.  I want to know what the obsession and self deception is all about?  Is it the same reason why some white kids from the suburbs wish they were black?  Or is it a totally different self delusion.




I provided a reason, you don't buy it?  White guilt.  Its pervasive and shoved down every american's throat from a very young age.  We are taught to loath whiteness and thus desperately search for any type of non-white (or at least non-british) ethnic heritage we can.  Obama is half white, he identifies as black not white.  Recall that lady from the Washington NAACP - she is a ginger who claims to be black.  You know how many white hispanic americans claim to be Mexican?  Most of them.  In school ethic heritages are regularly celebrated in between history class disparaging white heritage.

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Is it the same reason why some white kids from the suburbs wish they were black?




Yea, I would say that is also an effect of white guilt and similar to what you describe. 


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Anonymous #3

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22473778 - 11/03/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe white people are just plain.  :loldongs:


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22473794 - 11/03/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It's not that I don't believe you it's that i'm highly skeptical because I've heard the EXACT same thing from 25 people who all are 100% convinced of their native american ethnicity.  All i'm saying is there is a lot of bullshit floating around and 5% truth floating around.  Which one are you?


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22473804 - 11/03/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think the ginger lady from Washington actually believes she is black.  :shrug:  Self deception is a thing.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22473814 - 11/03/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What i'm trying to say is that it's pervasive thought out white american culture.  It's not like a 1 and 20 thing like it is in reality.  1 out of 5 white people I know probably claim native american blood.  There is an artificial belief in native american blood and I don't understand it, I just want to understand it.  Are people just naive?  Is that the answer?  But why native american?  Why not eastern europe?  Or slavic?

Is it because native americans are rare and therefor valuable?  Tricking white people into thinking their gentics are valuable because they think they have native american blood?  Everyone has brittish or german or dutch blood.  I think this delusion of native american heritage gives white people this feeling as though they are special and that's why they believe they're all 1/16 native american.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22473874 - 11/03/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)



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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22473890 - 11/03/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Does becky smith really think she is a noble savage because uncle johnny says she's 2.5% native american?  There is something going on that is making white americans wish they were part native american.  Noble Savage may be it, it might be more complex then that.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22474306 - 11/04/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #1 said:
In America.  Do they think they're cool?  Do they think it's exotic?  For what ever reason white people loving thinking their great great great grandfather was a native american and this cultural idea I don't understand at all.  I'm sure 5% of them are true.  But why are white people, showing no signs of native american blood claiming they do have native american blood?





Its not just a white thing, black Americans very often clain Native American lineage when this is not the case.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22474325 - 11/04/15 02:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

This phenomenon has always bugged me. They might as well be trying to establish whatever status they're after by saying their ancestors built the pyramids or first discovered fire.

You're so far removed from it, it means absolutely nothing at all.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #5] * 1
    #22474521 - 11/04/15 05:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

My ancestor killed a mammoth, once.
The entire bloodline is still coasting on that one.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #22478516 - 11/04/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #4 said:
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Anonymous #1 said:
In America.  Do they think they're cool?  Do they think it's exotic?  For what ever reason white people loving thinking their great great great grandfather was a native american and this cultural idea I don't understand at all.  I'm sure 5% of them are true.  But why are white people, showing no signs of native american blood claiming they do have native american blood?





Its not just a white thing, black Americans very often clain Native American lineage when this is not the case.



Suspicious claimed genetic heritage of native american blood is pervasive through out american black culture too?  NOoooooooo not more silly delusion.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22478531 - 11/04/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Theres a lot of Native Americans in the united States. Its hard for a person to have a family tree without at least ONE native american thrown in somewhere. Having a kid with one Native american will throw some native blood in your family tree. And then when that kid has a baby with a white person it will cancel out some of the native blood returning more whiteness to the person. If a person does not turn bright red like a lobster if they go outside on a summer day then they might have a little native in them.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #22478551 - 11/04/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #7 said:
Theres a lot of Native Americans in the united States. Its hard for a person to have a family tree without at least ONE native american thrown in somewhere.



This is a false statement probably made by one of those people who were told by uncle jim that they're 1/X indian.  The Cornell University Genetic Ancestry Project estimates Native American blood to be in between 4%-5% of the entire US population.  With self identifying Native Americans making up 2% of the US population.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22478556 - 11/04/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Not everyone has protected sex dude.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #22478583 - 11/04/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

If there are so many feather indians in the US how come I've literally NEVER seen an indian family just chilling at a restaurant or waiting for a flight at the airport?


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22478588 - 11/04/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe because you live in a middle class white neighborhood? A lot of them are poor and live in bad areas.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22478592 - 11/04/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #1 said:
If there are so many feather indians in the US how come I've literally NEVER seen an indian family just chilling at a restaurant or waiting for a flight at the airport?




Do you live near American Indian communities?


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22478605 - 11/04/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I was trying to prove a point as to how false anon7's claim of "A lot of native americans in the United States."

If you remove yourself from the delusion that you're 1/X cherokee you will realize how false that statement is.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22478610 - 11/04/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Go to a Indian reservation. Hella Indians there.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #22478627 - 11/04/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Not really.  There just happens to be a population of feather indians, but by no means is there a lot of them on reservations because there aren't very many of them in general.

BTW a little terminology:

Feather Indian = Native American

Dot Indian = Indian Indian, a person from the asian subcontinent.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22478634 - 11/04/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Not a lot of Indians on Indians Reservations??? My word.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22478732 - 11/04/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
In America.  Do they think they're cool?  Do they think it's exotic?  For what ever reason white people loving thinking their great great great grandfather was a native american and this cultural idea I don't understand at all.  I'm sure 5% of them are true.  But why are white people, showing no signs of native american blood claiming they do have native american blood?




If one were to make up something about their heritage for the purpose of appearing more interesting, then they're usually an insecure person in reality


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Anonymous #9

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #22482640 - 11/05/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I self-identify as a Native American and take offense to all of this. Being born into this world as a white Eastern European doesn't define me, being full blooded Native does. I demand everyone here recognize my Race Assignment or I'll melt and get you all banned.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #22483468 - 11/05/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #7 said:
Not a lot of Indians on Indians Reservations??? My word.



There are a lot of feather indians on indian reserves compared to the general population 95% feather indians on a reservation, but since there are so few feather indians in general I wouldn't consider 1000 feather indians a lot of people.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22484305 - 11/06/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
If there are so many feather indians in the US how come I've literally NEVER seen an indian family just chilling at a restaurant or waiting for a flight at the airport?



Because you're too busy marble mouthing, "ey Jim Bob, what's them 'mexicans' doin' over thar" *spit/ting*.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22484309 - 11/06/15 02:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Or maybe you just don't live around any, cracker whitey.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #22488239 - 11/06/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #3 said:
Or maybe you just don't live around any, cracker whitey.



Considering they make up just 2% of the population of the entire USA and largely live in Alaska and sparsely populated areas of the West, South West, I would agree I don't live around any.


Edited by Anonymous (11/06/15 08:52 PM)


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Anonymous #10

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22488519 - 11/06/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
In America.  Do they think they're cool?  Do they think it's exotic?  For what ever reason white people loving thinking their great great great grandfather was a native american and this cultural idea I don't understand at all.  I'm sure 5% of them are true.  But why are white people, showing no signs of native american blood claiming they do have native american blood?





We call them lumbys where I am from.  White people that think they are native. Some even wear feathers and jewelry and have native fake names.  I want to hit them sometimes.


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Anonymous #11

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #22493686 - 11/08/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

When people say they are "1/x" native american it means they are descendants. That does not mean that any of the phenotypic traits will show up in the individual. White colonialist bred with native americans. There is a huge population of descendants from this mix.

as for the obsession with white people bringing it up i have no idea.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #22494645 - 11/08/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #11 said:
When people say they are "1/x" native american it means they are descendants. That does not mean that any of the phenotypic traits will show up in the individual. White colonialist bred with native americans. There is a huge population of descendants from this mix.

as for the obsession with white people bringing it up i have no idea.




Some white people are now trying to show that they aren't pure white so they won't look and feel so guilty. They're basically big losers.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22494738 - 11/08/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #12 said:
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Anonymous #11 said:
When people say they are "1/x" native american it means they are descendants. That does not mean that any of the phenotypic traits will show up in the individual. White colonialist bred with native americans. There is a huge population of descendants from this mix.

as for the obsession with white people bringing it up i have no idea.




Some white people are now trying to show that they aren't pure white so they won't look and feel so guilty. They're basically big losers.




:bathtub40lol:

The fuck, for real?
Is this an American thing?


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #22494814 - 11/08/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #6 said:
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Anonymous #12 said:
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Anonymous #11 said:
When people say they are "1/x" native american it means they are descendants. That does not mean that any of the phenotypic traits will show up in the individual. White colonialist bred with native americans. There is a huge population of descendants from this mix.

as for the obsession with white people bringing it up i have no idea.




Some white people are now trying to show that they aren't pure white so they won't look and feel so guilty. They're basically big losers.




:bathtub40lol:

The fuck, for real?
Is this an American thing?




Yup, they have been taught for many years that their heritage is the root of all evil, they believe it and then feel guilty about it.


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Anonymous #13

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22497841 - 11/08/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

In my country even if you are only a little bit native american you can get a status card that gives you things like free education and hunting out of season.  There are a multitude of reasons why they are desired.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22497883 - 11/08/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #12 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #11 said:
When people say they are "1/x" native american it means they are descendants. That does not mean that any of the phenotypic traits will show up in the individual. White colonialist bred with native americans. There is a huge population of descendants from this mix.

as for the obsession with white people bringing it up i have no idea.




Some white people are now trying to show that they aren't pure white so they won't look and feel so guilty. They're basically big losers.



THAT IT!  So they don't feel so guilty about feather indian genocide.  Anon #11 I understand what you're saying, all i'm saying as that way more then 5% of white people claim to have feather indian ancestors when in reality only 5% of the population actually has feather indian in their blood.  I was wondering why more white people believe they have feather indian then actually do, why is it a phenomenon in white culture?  Then anon #12 said it best white people feel guilty.  It's the same reason why affirmative action was made legal, white people feeling guilty.  This feather indian blood cultural phenomenon is a more organic formation of their guilt.  Which is really strange because as a white person I don't feel guilty about anything I didn't do.  Those white people in history were no me and their actions are beyond my control. 

Does that make me a bad person for not feeling guilting about black people being slaves and the genocide of feather indians?  Feeling guilt indicates some sort of wrong doing but if you didn't do anything wrong if you didn't enslave black people or wipe out feather indians why would you feel guilty about it?  I feel bad about those events in history i'm sorry that such terrible things happened to those people but I don't feel guilty about it.

Sorry for the rant... discuss


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22498075 - 11/08/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Dude, didn't I basically say that in the very first reply?

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More to the point, being white in america is a loathsome state to be in.  Anybody with any chance to claim non-white, non-european or even just non-british heritage is going to do it.




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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22498118 - 11/08/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Being white is definitely not cool in american culture.  Being a gay transexual black woman is probably the coolest thing you could be in mainstream american culture where just being born non-white is considered "so brave."


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22498413 - 11/08/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Being a gay transexual black woman is probably the coolest thing you could be in mainstream american culture...




That might be pushing it, but you seem to have the idea.


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Anonymous #14

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22503330 - 11/10/15 01:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It is estimated that 26 million natives were slaughtered in "the land of the free" during the settling of the country.

I was stunned when I found that out. 26 million.

Just thought I would add that to the discussion. 26 million natives killed. 

I have always had respect for native americans, but when I found this out, I developed a deep sympathy for them as well.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22504030 - 11/10/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #14 said:
It is estimated that 26 million natives were slaughtered in "the land of the free" during the settling of the country.

I was stunned when I found that out. 26 million.

Just thought I would add that to the discussion. 26 million natives killed. 

I have always had respect for native americans, but when I found this out, I developed a deep sympathy for them as well.




They were fighting for land, it's called a war, people die in war.  There isn't a piece of land on this earth that hasn't been fought over. There are winners and losers at the end of a war, such is life.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22504036 - 11/10/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I prefer the term feather indian (as opposed to "dot indian" referring to the people who live on the indian subcontinent with dots on their forehead).  I find it to be less dry academically boring then native american.

I find it fascinating that we clearly found out quickly that feather indians or native americans were not indians at all assuming we had gone around the world but continued to call them indians for hundreds of years even up until today.


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Anonymous #14

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22505599 - 11/10/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #12 said:
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Anonymous #14 said:
It is estimated that 26 million natives were slaughtered in "the land of the free" during the settling of the country.

I was stunned when I found that out. 26 million.

Just thought I would add that to the discussion. 26 million natives killed. 

I have always had respect for native americans, but when I found this out, I developed a deep sympathy for them as well.




They were fighting for land, it's called a war, people die in war.  There isn't a piece of land on this earth that hasn't been fought over. There are winners and losers at the end of a war, such is life.




Wow. Insightful perspective, NOT!

The point was 26 million slaughtered. The majority children elderly and female.

This was not war but rather an attempt to eradicate the indigenous peoples of the land that is now called North America. IMHO a monstrosity that was just plain wrong.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22505998 - 11/10/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Would you really want to be living in tents and hunting buffalo right now? With zero modern technology?


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22506641 - 11/10/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #14 said:
Wow. Insightful perspective, NOT!

The point was 26 million slaughtered. The majority children elderly and female.

This was not war but rather an attempt to eradicate the indigenous peoples of the land that is now called North America. IMHO a monstrosity that was just plain wrong.




Jeee, y'think...  :rolleyes:  You know, the native Americans didn't really embrace refugees or multiculturalism either.  The Aztecs were committing their own little genocide when the Spanish rolled up.  Not that it is an excuse, just the another side of the coin.

So, are you consumed with white guilt then?


Edited by Anonymous (11/10/15 07:18 PM)


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Anonymous #3

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22506683 - 11/10/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Humans are fucking corrupt as fuck no matter where you go.  You'd do better find the highlights.  Because humans are statistically trash.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22507259 - 11/10/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #14 said:
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Anonymous #12 said:
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Anonymous #14 said:
It is estimated that 26 million natives were slaughtered in "the land of the free" during the settling of the country.

I was stunned when I found that out. 26 million.

Just thought I would add that to the discussion. 26 million natives killed. 

I have always had respect for native americans, but when I found this out, I developed a deep sympathy for them as well.




They were fighting for land, it's called a war, people die in war.  There isn't a piece of land on this earth that hasn't been fought over. There are winners and losers at the end of a war, such is life.




Wow. Insightful perspective, NOT!

The point was 26 million slaughtered. The majority children elderly and female.

This was not war but rather an attempt to eradicate the indigenous peoples of the land that is now called North America. IMHO a monstrosity that was just plain wrong.




The 26 million slaughtered were on the losing side, such is life.

If you can't defend your territory you don't deserve to own it, it happens in the animal world all the time, humans are no different.

Guess what?  If the natives couldn't defend their land, it's because they lacked the ability and intelligence to defend it, survival of the fittest.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22507429 - 11/10/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That doesn't make it right, just expected.  Deserves got nuthin' to do with it.



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Anonymous #3

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22507507 - 11/10/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You'll change your tune the night someone climbs through your dining room window.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #22507924 - 11/11/15 03:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
Would you really want to be living in tents and hunting buffalo right now? With zero modern technology?




You really want to be living in offices and working behind a computer right now? With all that toxic modern technology that distracts you from what is truly important in life?


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #22507988 - 11/11/15 04:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
Would you really want to be living in tents and hunting buffalo right now? With zero modern technology?




You really want to be living in offices and working behind a computer right now? With all that toxic modern technology that distracts you from what is truly important in life?



You really hate it so much?  Go live in the woods for a week and then report back to us on how wonderful being away from the toxic technology is.  Reality is different then the liberal dream world you live in.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22507989 - 11/11/15 04:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
Would you really want to be living in tents and hunting buffalo right now? With zero modern technology?




You really want to be living in offices and working behind a computer right now? With all that toxic modern technology that distracts you from what is truly important in life?



You really hate it so much?  Go live in the woods for a week and then report back to us on how wonderful being away from the toxic technology is.  Reality is different then the liberal dream world you live in.




I have already done that multiple times man.
"liberal dreamworld"

Being a little butthurt? Somebody says something that's not in tune with your view of the world? Must be a liberal?
Damn man, you're in deep. They got you programmed like a good little yapdog, mate.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #22507994 - 11/11/15 04:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Why aren't you living in a meadow with birds chirping and butterflies flying and deer coming up and licking your face?  Those multiple or 2 times you went camping when you were a kid were enough right?


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Anonymous #6

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22508844 - 11/11/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Why aren't you living in a meadow with birds chirping and butterflies flying and deer coming up and licking your face?  Those multiple or 2 times you went camping when you were a kid were enough right?




Couple of times a year. You should try it, it's good for you.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #22508858 - 11/11/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
Would you really want to be living in tents and hunting buffalo right now? With zero modern technology?




You really want to be living in offices and working behind a computer right now? With all that toxic modern technology that distracts you from what is truly important in life?




As he types from his computer connected to the internet inside his home. 

Maybe you can go live in Africa or something if you find modern technology so horrible. :smilingpuppy:


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Anonymous #6

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22508878 - 11/11/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
Would you really want to be living in tents and hunting buffalo right now? With zero modern technology?




You really want to be living in offices and working behind a computer right now? With all that toxic modern technology that distracts you from what is truly important in life?




As he types from his computer connected to the internet inside his home. 

Maybe you can go live in Africa or something if you find modern technology so horrible. :smilingpuppy:




Or just use it a lot less in my life without going nuts.
I don't know, that seems to work. Pretty chill, actually.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #22509055 - 11/11/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

If it's so great and modern technology is so bad why do you spend 363 days in this toxic world?  Why don't you spend 363 days a year living in that meadow with deer licking your face while you giggle and 2 days a year in the toxic technology world?  For someone who only spends 2 days a year in nature you sure do sound like the foremost authority on that lifestyle:grin:


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Anonymous #14

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22509576 - 11/11/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

this thread really got off topic and turned into a fuck you fest.

I'm wondering if it is possible to discuss race at all without this happenstances.

Is the core of our members and posters in this forum so base that we cannot have any type of discussion on a hot button issue without being reduced to name calling? 

I hope so, but I'm an eternal optimist.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22509653 - 11/11/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
this thread really got off topic and turned into a fuck you fest.

I'm wondering if it is possible to discuss race at all without this happenstances.

Is the core of our members and posters in this forum so base that we cannot have any type of discussion on a hot button issue without being reduced to name calling? 

I hope so, but I'm an eternal optimist.




You started the fuck fest when you entered the thread, sarcasm and sensationalism doesn't help you make any points.


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Anonymous #14

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22509696 - 11/11/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

So posting an accusatory finger at me helps how?

Fact is you are IMO one of the trolls spewing bs and spreading discontent.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22510037 - 11/11/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

So back on topic.  I think the answer to my OP is white guilt.  Correct?  They subconsciously feel less guilty about a white atrocity of they identify with feather indians by blood?  Even though only 5% of Americans are actually related to feather indians by blood and the rest subconsciously joined the less guilt club by believing mom, dad or uncle jerry that they are 1/X father indian.  This is why they don't question uncle jerry's clam that they're 1/X feather indian.  While it's perceived as "cool" in the minds of the false heritage white believers that they're part feather indian, behind the scenes psychologically it's because of guilt and its a way of disassociating themselves with the whites who committed genocide.


Edited by Anonymous (11/11/15 08:55 PM)


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22510148 - 11/11/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
So posting an accusatory finger at me helps how?

Fact is you are IMO one of the trolls spewing bs and spreading discontent.




Feel guilty about history it if it makes you feel better, just don't attempt to drag the rest of us down your miserable outlook on white heritage.

Maybe if you find out you're 1/16th Native American this psychosis will go away. :shrug:


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Anonymous #3

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22510351 - 11/11/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
this thread really got off topic and turned into a fuck you fest.

I'm wondering if it is possible to discuss race at all without this happenstances.

Is the core of our members and posters in this forum so base that we cannot have any type of discussion on a hot button issue without being reduced to name calling? 

I hope so, but I'm an eternal optimist.



Everybody as a whole, generalize too much.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #22511561 - 11/11/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I made this thread to have a serious discussion about a race related cultural phenomenon not watch adults attack each other with ad hominums and turn the subject matter of this thread into something about them selves.

We're all adults here can we act like it while we participate in this thread?


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Anonymous #10

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22512412 - 11/12/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
It is estimated that 26 million natives were slaughtered in "the land of the free" during the settling of the country.

I was stunned when I found that out. 26 million.

Just thought I would add that to the discussion. 26 million natives killed. 

I have always had respect for native americans, but when I found this out, I developed a deep sympathy for them as well.




I've never been out of this country but I can only assume a lot of the world speaks of us, as we do hitler.


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Anonymous #14

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #22512610 - 11/12/15 05:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Fact is I'm thankful that I was born in America and in this day and age.

I live better than many of the kings of old.

I don't approve of many of my countries policies and how they treat others in a lot of cases with global politics and policies and whatnot.

I do choose to remain thankful for what I have because I know that I have a lot of opportunity not available to others so I try not to take my good fortune for granted so much these days.

I do still love America and will until the day I die.

So I guess you kind of hit the nail on the headvwith your last post op.

Many whites probably claim native blood because it feels better than claiming relationship to a group of people capable of committing genocide.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22514996 - 11/12/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Many whites probably claim native blood because it feels better than claiming relationship to a group of people capable of committing genocide.




That is ridiculous.  You think native americans are incapable of committing genocide?  You think evil mass murder is exclusive to white people?  That makes YOU a racist.


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Anonymous #14

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22515673 - 11/12/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm certainly not claiming anything like that.

I was simply making a statement of conjecture.

The fact is native Americans were at war with each other for who knows how many centuries before the Europeans showed up and started the eradication of their way of life.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22515811 - 11/12/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Exactly. The Native Americans are no better than the white man because the Native Americans were murdering other Native Americans LONG before a white man EVER killed a native american. So feeling white guilt not only serves no purpose, but it is also false. White guilt is a lie.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22517212 - 11/13/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:


Many whites probably claim native blood because it feels better than claiming relationship to a group of people capable of committing genocide.




Believe it or not, the majority of WASP's take pride in settling the US and the thought of their ancestors "committing genocide" really doesn't enter their minds.

They created this country from the ground up, if that involved fighting a war in order to accomplish that mission so be it.

Yes, there's a few people that feel some guilt about their history, but that's a very small minority of people that don't have a proper perspective on history.


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Anonymous #14

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22517659 - 11/13/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I am of the opinion that you are correct in that assumption good sir.

Also, I believe the majority of the most heinous acts were carried out by the military and hired thugs.

I also do not believe that at the time the general populace was informed of the tactics employed by the military.

We have to remember that there was no internet and anyone who owened a newspaper would have found there shop burned down or blown up if they printed unfavorable things about certain groups or individuals.


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Anonymous #15

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22538586 - 11/17/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

America's real problem
Black Men comprise less than 8% of USA population.
Black Men commit nearly 70% of all personal and property crime.*
Black Men account for more than half of all new HIV diagnoses**
Black Men account for just under half of all new AIDS diagnoses.**
Black Men rape approximately 36,500 White Women per year.*
The FBI estimates only 1/3 of all rapes are ever reported so the real figure is about 100,000 rapes per year. Or 11 rapes for every hour of every day
White Men rape about 10 Black Woman per year.*
B|acks Murder about 2,000 White People per year.*
Whites Murder less than 100 B|acks per year.*
So, over the last 40 years, Black Men have raped about 4,000,000 White Women and Murdered about 80,000 White People.
*2010 FBI National Crime Statistics


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #22539321 - 11/17/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #15 said:
America's real problem
Black Men comprise less than 8% of USA population.
Black Men commit nearly 70% of all personal and property crime.*
Black Men account for more than half of all new HIV diagnoses**
Black Men account for just under half of all new AIDS diagnoses.**
Black Men rape approximately 36,500 White Women per year.*
The FBI estimates only 1/3 of all rapes are ever reported so the real figure is about 100,000 rapes per year. Or 11 rapes for every hour of every day
White Men rape about 10 Black Woman per year.*
B|acks Murder about 2,000 White People per year.*
Whites Murder less than 100 B|acks per year.*
So, over the last 40 years, Black Men have raped about 4,000,000 White Women and Murdered about 80,000 White People.
*2010 FBI National Crime Statistics




Well, that's not very nice to say.


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Anonymous #15

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22540479 - 11/18/15 06:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #15 said:
America's real problem
Black Men comprise less than 8% of USA population.
Black Men commit nearly 70% of all personal and property crime.*
Black Men account for more than half of all new HIV diagnoses**
Black Men account for just under half of all new AIDS diagnoses.**
Black Men rape approximately 36,500 White Women per year.*
The FBI estimates only 1/3 of all rapes are ever reported so the real figure is about 100,000 rapes per year. Or 11 rapes for every hour of every day
White Men rape about 10 Black Woman. per year.*
B|acks Murder about 2,000 White People per year.*. 


Whites Murder less than 100 B|acks per year.*
So, over the last 40 years, Black Men have raped about 4,000,000 White Women and Murdered about 80,000 White People.
*2010 FBI National Crime Statistics




Well, that's not very nice to say.




Truth hurts


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Anonymous #4

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #22541141 - 11/18/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

White Men rape about 10 Black Woman per year.*





:facepalm:


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #22544856 - 11/19/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah black guys get fucked by society.  This isn't a new phenomenon, black cultures glorification of criminal activity and objectification of women doesn't really help their cause either.


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Anonymous #16

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #22546390 - 11/19/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
It is estimated that 26 million natives were slaughtered in "the land of the free" during the settling of the country.





The 26 million figure sounds awfully high for indian wars. Are you sure that figure dosen't include those that died of disease. They estimate 75% of all natives in NA died of European illnesses without ever having laid eyes on a white man.

I'm not sure about the US but in Canada if you can prove 1/16 or better then you can be tax free for life, get all sorts of government handouts, and live without working on the reserve. Sounds OK to me.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #22546560 - 11/19/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Do you have proof of these canadian feather indian benefits you claim?  No taxes for life?


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Anonymous #14

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22548919 - 11/19/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

26 million includes the smallpox I believe.

I was in college taking some type of easy a prep class and one week we had indigenous people come in and show a film followed by a discussion.

That's where that number came from.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22548933 - 11/19/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Yeah black guys get fucked by society.  This isn't a new phenomenon, black cultures glorification of criminal activity and objectification of women doesn't really help their cause either.




I think its because, Black people feel restricted because of the past of slavery, but crime leads to prison and in prison thats a form of modern day slavery. So They glamorize crime leading to having it harder in society.


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Anonymous #16

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22550024 - 11/20/15 03:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Do you have proof of these canadian feather indian benefits you claim?  No taxes for life?




What sort of proof are you after? It is part of Cdn tax law that the natives, as long as they are residing on the reserve are not subject to income tax. Not sure if they have to charge sales taxes on the reserves or not.


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Anonymous #16

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #22550028 - 11/20/15 03:36 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Unlike the US we Canuks never went to war with our natives. Yes we used them in our wars between the English, French, & Americans but we were never fighting them alone. Rather we just cheated them out of their lands by signing treaties and then never living up to our side of the deals. This is why we're having so much trouble in the courts over native land claims and part of the reason why the govt hands hundreds of millions of $ to the natives annually.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #22550915 - 11/20/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

We had more of them to deal with over a larger piece of land.


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Anonymous #16

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #22550958 - 11/20/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
We had more of them to deal with over a larger piece of land.




Nah mate we got you beat there. Canada is 363,252 square miles larger than the US.

I suspect you are right about the number of natives you had though and if we compared the size of the area that people would actually want to live in then the US would far beat Canada (unless you really like mosquitos, black flies, and moss that is).


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Anonymous #17

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #22571153 - 11/25/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm 1/16 native american from my great great grandmother alone, and I know I have some mixed in with other parts of my ancestry. If I get asked about ancestry, why shouldn't I mention it?


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #17]
    #22571688 - 11/25/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm 1/16 feather indian too :rolleyes:


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Anonymous #18

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22572221 - 11/25/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Most white people think it's cool that they look white, knowing that they have a native heritage. You could say that they feel "exotic", but everyone probably has a little native blood. This post reminds me of that one southpark episode with the white Cherokee, did that episode air recently?


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #22572441 - 11/25/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #18 said:
Most white people think it's cool that they look white, knowing that they have a native heritage. You could say that they feel "exotic", but everyone probably has a little native blood. This post reminds me of that one southpark episode with the white Cherokee, did that episode air recently?




No, "everyone" doesn't have a little native blood, not even close.


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Anonymous #19

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22572462 - 11/25/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Here in Canada everyone who can get thier card proving they are 1/16 does so in order to reap the benefits offered by our govt. (free edu. Grants. Tax cuts/exemptions. It's endless. And stupid IMO)


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22573299 - 11/25/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #18 said:
Most white people think it's cool that they look white, knowing that they have a native heritage. You could say that they feel "exotic", but everyone probably has a little native blood. This post reminds me of that one southpark episode with the white Cherokee, did that episode air recently?




No, "everyone" doesn't have a little native blood, not even close.



5% of americans have feather indian blood in them.  The white fantasy of being part indian is a delusion.


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Anonymous #20

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22573569 - 11/25/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

White people claiming to be part Indian (Native) is just another example of endless cultural appropriation (theft). They habitually steal things from other cultures they subjugate, eg Jazz, Blues, Rock, whites with dreads, cornrows, etc.

Black people also claim to be part Indian a lot (mostly cherokee) but there is far more truth to it considering many slaves escaped to live with the natives and became part of the tribes and intermarried, hence the Mardi Gras Indian tribes in New Orleans. They were started in the parades to pay homage to their Indian brothers that sheltered and took them in.

I'm sure that with all the slaughter and raping of Natives, there is a lot of whites with Indian blood, and there was a fair amount of intermarriage also but the fact of the matter is that a respectable white man in early white america would be shunned by his peers for marrying an Indian due to the overwhelming racism inherent in rationalizing conquering and enslaving a whole continent. Intemarriage was primarily an element of the frontier and lower class.


Edited by Anonymous (11/25/15 02:55 PM)


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Anonymous #21

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #20]
    #22573865 - 11/25/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

If you think people weren't fucking right when they got off the boat then you're an idiot. Yes, plenty of whites have native blood, whether it is 1/16th or not is a different story.
There is a reason we refer to this country as a melting pot.


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Anonymous #21

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #22573889 - 11/25/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

But the real issue here is this false concept of "race" that society has created. The man wants you to be proud of your race, it is a lot easier to sell you shit that way. Remember, ethnicity and culture is all you got, race is bullshit.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #22573893 - 11/25/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #21 said:
If you think people weren't fucking right when they got off the boat then you're an idiot. Yes, plenty of whites have native blood, whether it is 1/16th or not is a different story.
There is a reason we refer to this country as a melting pot.




Exactly. There is a rumor that there is a huge conspiracy going on in Europe right now to try and "erase" the white race by sending in over 1 million Arabic Muslims into Europe this year, and increasing more each future year, trying to mix the blood, and also flat out out breed, the white race, until there is no longer a single white people left in all of Europe.

A chilling idea. And if something is not done, it will happen.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #22574311 - 11/25/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #21 said:
But the real issue here is this false concept of "race" that society has created. The man wants you to be proud of your race, it is a lot easier to sell you shit that way. Remember, ethnicity and culture is all you got, race is bullshit.




"Society" didn't create race, biology did. Humans spent over 50,000 years separated from each other and evolved in different environments, therefore we have several different human races.  It's ok to acknowledge this fact, human history is interesting.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #22574321 - 11/25/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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If you think people weren't fucking right when they got off the boat then you're an idiot. Yes, plenty of whites have native blood, whether it is 1/16th or not is a different story.
There is a reason we refer to this country as a melting pot.




Exactly. There is a rumor that there is a huge conspiracy going on in Europe right now to try and "erase" the white race by sending in over 1 million Arabic Muslims into Europe this year, and increasing more each future year, trying to mix the blood, and also flat out out breed, the white race, until there is no longer a single white people left in all of Europe.

A chilling idea. And if something is not done, it will happen.




Just remember whites can behave the most civilized and the most uncivilized fashion when they choose to do so.


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Anonymous #14

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #22574379 - 11/25/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, we will all be part Asian at some point.

The fact is Vikings were raiding and trading with indigenous americans long before Columbus made his journey.

I believe there where actually tribes that blond hair and blue eyes where fairly common from the Vikings DNA.


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Anonymous #21

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22574566 - 11/25/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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But the real issue here is this false concept of "race" that society has created. The man wants you to be proud of your race, it is a lot easier to sell you shit that way. Remember, ethnicity and culture is all you got, race is bullshit.




"Society" didn't create race, biology did. Humans spent over 50,000 years separated from each other and evolved in different environments, therefore we have several different human races.  It's ok to acknowledge this fact, human history is interesting.




Ah yes, I should clarify then. Society instilled a mentality that one should be "proud" of their race and embrace it. It's a great way to segment your market, regardless of what your selling. And it's complete bullshit.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #22574587 - 11/25/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Society did not create the black race. The hot sun in Africa did. People have different skin colors because they evolved over time from the sun.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22575042 - 11/25/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #12 said:
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But the real issue here is this false concept of "race" that society has created. The man wants you to be proud of your race, it is a lot easier to sell you shit that way. Remember, ethnicity and culture is all you got, race is bullshit.




"Society" didn't create race, biology did. Humans spent over 50,000 years separated from each other and evolved in different environments, therefore we have several different human races.  It's ok to acknowledge this fact, human history is interesting.



QFT


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22576425 - 11/26/15 01:05 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

So yeah race is still valid in todays not world and not bullshit.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #22576968 - 11/26/15 06:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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White Men rape about 10 Black Woman per year.*





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Well I try to do my best, but I don't know in advance what colour the woman is when she walks by my basement, geez!


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Anonymous #22

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #22576979 - 11/26/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Who'd wanna be known as a chug anyway


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #22578955 - 11/26/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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White Men rape about 10 Black Woman per year.*





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Well I try to do my best, but I don't know in advance what colour the woman is when she walks by my basement, geez!




If she was fat and walking by you wouldn't rape her. So if you don't like black women why then rape a black woman? I don't get it.

I read online that some women eat food as a defense mechanism. The woman was raped in the past when she used to be thin and attractive, so she ate and ate until she gained lots of weight and became obese, so that way not only will she not be raped but she no longer gets any attention from men at all in the first place anymore. Which is what she wanted because now she is afraid of men.


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Anonymous #21

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #22581338 - 11/27/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So yeah race is still valid in todays not world and not bullshit.




That mentality is regressive.
Yes, it is in fact bullshit


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Anonymous #23

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #22589002 - 11/29/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So yeah race is still valid in todays not world and not bullshit.




That mentality is regressive.
Yes, it is in fact bullshit




race really means nothing in my opinion other than just telling a bit about your origins and where you are from


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #22591117 - 11/29/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Even then it still does not tell the whole story. Sometimes brown men are born in England. They have the brown skin but no first hand knowledge of actual Afghanistan or Syria. Which actually is a  bad thing because since they were born in England these Muslims don't actually understand how bad the Middle East really is, so then they become radicalized even though their parents who did come from the Middle East are moderate.

I really think they need to make new laws. If you are born in England but pledge yourself to isis, then you need to be convicted of treason and executed. We tried being nice, and what did that get us? It got us the Paris France attacks.

You just cannot be nice to these people, because they just see kindness as a weakness and then try even harder to go against you.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #22591129 - 11/29/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So yeah race is still valid in todays not world and not bullshit.




That mentality is regressive.
Yes, it is in fact bullshit




race really means nothing in my opinion other than just telling a bit about your origins and where you are from



Race says nothing about where you're from, but it does say something about where your ancestors were from.  I hate the term african american, there are a lot of white people in south africa who come to the US and become "african americans."  There is nothing wrong with black, white, colored, person of color...


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #22591485 - 11/29/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So yeah race is still valid in todays not world and not bullshit.




That mentality is regressive.
Yes, it is in fact bullshit




race really means nothing in my opinion other than just telling a bit about your origins and where you are from




Which actually tells us a lot, we are our genetics.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22593218 - 11/30/15 03:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So yeah race is still valid in todays not world and not bullshit.




That mentality is regressive.
Yes, it is in fact bullshit




race really means nothing in my opinion other than just telling a bit about your origins and where you are from




Which actually tells us a lot, we are our genetics.




Are we? Has the metaphysical debate about free will and nature vs nurture finally been settled?


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #22596623 - 11/30/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

The idea that genetics play a non-negligible role is supported by mountains of evidence and not debatable.  You can't even be nurtured unless you have the right genes.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #22597040 - 11/30/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Anonymous #23 said:
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So yeah race is still valid in todays not world and not bullshit.




That mentality is regressive.
Yes, it is in fact bullshit




race really means nothing in my opinion other than just telling a bit about your origins and where you are from




Which actually tells us a lot, we are our genetics.




Are we? Has the metaphysical debate about free will and nature vs nurture finally been settled?




We know it's a combination of both genetics and environment, so where did "free will" enter the discussion?


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Anonymous #24

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #22615541 - 12/05/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Im native american and im 1/16th white.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #24]
    #22616672 - 12/05/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

are you sure you're not a five dollar white guy?


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Anonymous #25

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #22649376 - 12/13/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

My room mate is an absolute self-loathing white person. She also calls herself Native American but knows next to nothing about real Native American life, religion, or history. She acts like they just burned sage, were "one with the earth", and lived like a bunch of innocent children on a happy playground.

Out of compassion I just keep my mouth shut when she says a bunch of goofy things to people of other races trying to apologize for the fact that she was born white and all white people are evil.

The funny thing is that "minorities" face the challenges of being marginalized in society because of their birth heritage which they had no control over... but the self loathing white person intentionally tries to marginalize themselves while at the same time selfishly enjoying living under white privilege. And they usually wind up saying some very condescending things to people of other races unintentionally because they are only seeing the world through caucasian colored goggles while trying to "understand" what other people are going through.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why do white people think they're 1/16 Native American? [Re: Anonymous #25]
    #22651333 - 12/13/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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My room mate is an absolute self-loathing white person. She also calls herself Native American but knows next to nothing about real Native American life, religion, or history. She acts like they just burned sage, were "one with the earth", and lived like a bunch of innocent children on a happy playground.

Out of compassion I just keep my mouth shut when she says a bunch of goofy things to people of other races trying to apologize for the fact that she was born white and all white people are evil.

The funny thing is that "minorities" face the challenges of being marginalized in society because of their birth heritage which they had no control over... but the self loathing white person intentionally tries to marginalize themselves while at the same time selfishly enjoying living under white privilege. And they usually wind up saying some very condescending things to people of other races unintentionally because they are only seeing the world through caucasian colored goggles while trying to "understand" what other people are going through.





"enjoying living under white privilege"

Most of the privilege they think they're living under is an illusion, that's how warped people like that really are, apologizing for something there's nothing to apologize for in the first place.


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