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koods
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle]
#23910813 - 12/09/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Apostle
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: koods]
#23911050 - 12/09/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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yea that was fucking glorious. I miss the old SP.
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle]
#23929156 - 12/15/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hows everyone doing?
Right now im fighting a little wd from poppy tea. Let me just say heroin wd doesnt have shit on poppy tea wd. Its pretty awful. There has to be some sort of trade off for a cheap easily available potent opiate that helps keep me away from the needle.
Actually its part of my routine to force myself into wd on occasion in order to cut down tolerence. Also there is a serious build up of opiates after dosing day after day with poppy tea that needs to be run out of your system.
Anyways the chemical buttplug loperamide is keeping me OK, not great but i can manage.
I know its not perfect but i feel overall the poppy tea gives me an edge. Provides me with serious energy and stamina, yet i can readily sleep still, kills chronic pain i have and keeps me relatively upbeat.
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CookieCrumbs
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I wonder if the wds feeling worse is because of the spectrum. And if opium would be on the same level.
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the large number of opiates in poppy tea or opium does make the wds worse than an isolated opiate some people claim
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Apostle
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I took kratom and in my book that's a relapse but i guess at least i'm not shooting dope.
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Connoisseur]
#23929237 - 12/15/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: I wonder if the wds feeling worse is because of the spectrum. And if opium would be on the same level.
Yes opium is the same. Its essentially what im consuming, im an opium addict.
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Connoisseur said: the large number of opiates in poppy tea or opium does make the wds worse than an isolated opiate some people claim
Oh it really does at least for me and many others.
The physical effects are terrible. Last time i ran out i shit 8 times in one day and threw up twice.
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Mush 4 Brains said: Last time i ran out i shit 8 times in one day and threw up twice.
idk that doesn't sound much worse and in fact it sounds about on par with (or even less than) oxycodone withdrawl.
Not to diminish your experience. That still sounds like hell.
How many opiates/opiods are we talking here? morphine, some codeine, and then i guess thebaine which i thought was inactive in itself... or am i missing some?
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle]
#23929253 - 12/15/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Apostle said: I took kratom and in my book that's a relapse but i guess at least i'm not shooting dope.
Thats not a relapse man, dont beat yourself up. Even if you do relapse it doesnt negate all the good youve done, all your hard work.
On a side note my bro left me a couple tramadol and a 10mg norco. I feel great! Which is unusual because durring wd that would do hardly shit, i believe the lope is covering the physical symptoms allowing the tram/norco to work more effectively.
Now that ive been consuming poppy tea for so long, traditional opiates dont do much for me. Tramadol i actually feel more from than oxy norco etc.
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Yea, even with a heavy tolerance i got something out of Tramadol. it's actually very unique to me and "floaty" feeling. perhaps you and i are among the lucky ones who metabolize it well. Another interesting thing, it seems to have worked even after taking suboxone, unlike traditional opiates/opiods.
Thanks for the kind words, may the best things come to you.
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle] 1
#23929266 - 12/15/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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10 days off
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle]
#23929269 - 12/15/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Apostle said:
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Mush 4 Brains said: Last time i ran out i shit 8 times in one day and threw up twice.
idk that doesn't sound much worse and in fact it sounds about on par with (or even less than) oxycodone withdrawl.
Not to diminish your experience. That still sounds like hell.
How many opiates/opiods are we talking here? morphine, some codeine, and then i guess thebaine which i thought was inactive in itself... or am i missing some?
Dude you are missing a fuckton! And different varieties of pods/seeds contain more of this or that. There is a list of 30+plus opiate alks found in poppy tea.
Even when i had $100 a day iv smack habbit the wd wasnt as bad. I rarely if ever got the shits.
Last month i had a slip up and bought a couple bags of dope after nearly a year of abstinence. I iv'd it and it barely phased me. The poppy tea has wrecked my tolerence, now it is the only thing that will pacify me
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle]
#23929278 - 12/15/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Apostle said: Yea, even with a heavy tolerance i got something out of Tramadol. it's actually very unique to me and "floaty" feeling. perhaps you and i are among the lucky ones who metabolize it well. Another interesting thing, it seems to have worked even after taking suboxone, unlike traditional opiates/opiods.
Thanks for the kind words, may the best things come to you.
Yeah the thing about tram that makes it different is its SSRI effects. It actually acts as an antidepressant that unlike typical ones works immediately.
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: ModestMouse]
#23929282 - 12/15/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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True, that's awful man.
When i kicked oxycodone though i felt similar symptoms and with methadone it was non-stop vommiting and diahrea to the point where my throat and bum were bleeding. i couldnt keep even a mouthful of water down.
I've heard poppy tea was hell though and i don't really want to find out.
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Way to go man!
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I've gotten high on lope believe it or not. there is a cocktail that seems to help it cross the BBB
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle]
#23929445 - 12/15/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive heard that, looked into it before. Never tried it, came close but i really didnt feel it was worth the effort.
At a certain point durring wd I'm like fuck it, i give up trying to alleviate it and just grit my teeth and deal with it.
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oh yea if you're in w.d. there's probably little chance of achieving it since you'll presumably have been using recently and have a tolerance.
i only was able to get high on lope after several months clean from all opis
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle]
#23929518 - 12/15/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Apostle said: I took kratom and in my book that's a relapse but i guess at least i'm not shooting dope.
I've taken kratom every day for 4 months, and I consider myself clean. Keep it up homie.
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: ModestMouse]
#23929521 - 12/15/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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i experience typical opiate w.d. upon cessation so i don't consider it clean and would prefer if i weren't using kratom.
I'm glad it works for you though.
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