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InvisibleMoonshoe
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: trvptamine] * 1
    #23194951 - 05/06/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I also believe that if you continue chipping it's only a matter of time until you severely damage your life .

I have seen it so, so many times right here on the shroomery.

Everyone who starts out using heroine thinks they are different and it will work out for them.

Every one of them learns the hard way they aren't different and it works out the same as always - tragically .

The only way to win this game is to quit while you are ahead.

Say a prayer of gratitude you have managed to avoid addiction so far and quit now and be grateful you got to experience that without ruining your life.

It's also possible you will get some stuff laced with fentanyl and die even if you keep chipping.

It's happened to like 230 people in my city this year .


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Invisiblemoonrockmushy
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23195955 - 05/06/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah honestly I have had so many close calls since I took a break and got my tolerance down.  Chipping seems to be more dangerous than having a full on habit in terms of overdose risk.

Tomorrow will be a week for me.  I don't really want to be clean but I've been using weekly, sometimes up to half the week, for the past couple months telling myself it is under control, but I'm really right on the edge of being full-on hooked again.  Shit's got to stop.


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InvisibleMoonshoe
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23198370 - 05/07/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Yes chipping is far more dangerous for lethal OD than regular use.


Same reason so many people die from relapses - tolerance
Goes down just enough to be fatal.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23198892 - 05/07/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

So tell me whats chipping? :smile:


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InvisibleMush 4 Brains
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Cujllickduo] * 1
    #23198923 - 05/07/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Using opiates (particularly heroin) occasionally /recreationally with the goal being to avoid addiction.

In other words, playing with fire.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #23199203 - 05/07/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Oh so the word means temptation in some sense. :cheers:


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Cujllickduo]
    #23200425 - 05/07/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I bought some kratom today at the headshop. Just took 4 grams. I feel like I'm trying to relapse without relapsing. It's lame. I don't think I'll be doing this again.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Rustifer]
    #23212517 - 05/11/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Rustifer said:
I bought some kratom today at the headshop. Just took 4 grams. I feel like I'm trying to relapse without relapsing. It's lame. I don't think I'll be doing this again.



you're gonna need alot more than 4 grams if you want to feel something coming from the world of real opiates. I think i used to boil 15 grams or more for around a half hour just just get a opiate mood boost.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: LSDreams]
    #23214468 - 05/11/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I got pretty good off 4 grams, the next day I took 6 and was pretty high.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Rustifer]
    #23214527 - 05/11/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I usually get sick if I take over 10 grams at once, and since that never really feels like enough I try to stay away.  Puking off kratom is awful too for some reason, where puking off an opiate or something like fent I don't really mind.  Headaches and that feeling where you puke if you move too much is like 10x worse with kratom, and the high is about 10x weaker.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23219865 - 05/12/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Kratom has a definite ceiling beyond which you cant get more high without puking from too much leaf.

This is its biggest disadvantage but also an advantage- its part of why kratom habits are so manageable.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23220669 - 05/12/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Rustifer said:
I got pretty good off 4 grams, the next day I took 6 and was pretty high.



really? I didnt know you could actually get high like that.

Is it possible to destroy the alkaloids if you boil kratom too long moonshoe? I know you know your kratom.
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Headaches and that feeling where you puke if you move too much



I went through that all too much with fent.. usually just means you took too much, so it doesnt make sense that it happened with kratom.. unless youre allergic to something in it or sensitive stomach.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: LSDreams]
    #23220819 - 05/13/16 12:36 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

kratom is like nicotine replacement. You can argue all you want that your not using opiates.. but you still are.


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Invisiblemoonrockmushy
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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: LSDreams]
    #23221153 - 05/13/16 03:35 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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LSDreams said:
Quote:

Rustifer said:
I got pretty good off 4 grams, the next day I took 6 and was pretty high.



really? I didnt know you could actually get high like that.

Is it possible to destroy the alkaloids if you boil kratom too long moonshoe? I know you know your kratom.
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moonrockmushy said:
Headaches and that feeling where you puke if you move too much



I went through that all too much with fent.. usually just means you took too much, so it doesnt make sense that it happened with kratom.. unless youre allergic to something in it or sensitive stomach.




I got like that with fent too, which sucked, but kratom was worse.  Probably because I wasn't really high and puking up that powder is just awful and I wouldn't feel any better after I puked like I normally do with opiates.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: LSDreams]
    #23223031 - 05/13/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

You shouldnt boil kratom at all.

If you decide to make a tea, boil water, then let it cool for a minute or two and pour hot, steaming but not boiling water over the kratom.

Boiling always degrades alkaloids.

I never make tea though. I toss and wash with cold water.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23254010 - 05/21/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Haven't touched an opiate in 30 days. Feeling very level headed lately


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #23254058 - 05/21/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

No nicotine from the 17th.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Cujllickduo]
    #23255667 - 05/21/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I feel like I've become a psychedelics addict. I've been taking acid/mushrooms/4-ACO-DMT (typically two of the three in combination with eachother) every sunday since like, last october, a few weekends excluded.

every monday I tell myself, "Next weekend I'm not gonna trip"

but then the next weekend rolls around and I trip

it's not really a huge deal but I feel like I could be doing better things with my time.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23255935 - 05/21/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Don't toss kratom or opium directly on your tongue. Put in cool water shake it up and down the hatch in one gulp followed by chaser. I only care about your tastebuds.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23256009 - 05/21/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I put the kratom in my mouth first

I do it in such a way that I dont taste it really though


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