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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22541583 - 11/18/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

a lot of people get them. It could be that your system is so use to kratom that it compensated for that so you can shit normally. I just stopped kratom and I'm having some bad problems now.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22541758 - 11/18/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Bad problems? What kind of bad problems?


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22543189 - 11/18/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I just went 40 hours without and tramadol. Somehow I slept 12 hours today. But it was pretty bad so I took half of a pill to see what that does. The last day I took 500 mg, so I'm not expecting to feel anything except some minor relief. So much to this little episode not resetting my withdrawals.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Rustifer]
    #22543300 - 11/18/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Stay strong man.  Don't even want to say it, but I am apparently a junk marionette controlled by some frayed and tattered dental floss, back to square fucking one.  It's amazing once things get set into motion, it's seemingly impossible to stop.

Least the fire has returned, but mostly I am just trying to not be consumed by regret.  :suicide:


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22543345 - 11/18/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

No sense looking behind, brother. Keep your eyes on the prize. If I can do it (despite the whining) I'm sure you can. You have more strength and conviction than I do, I know that much.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Adden]
    #22543464 - 11/18/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It's crazy because I was just on the verge of starting to feel better, and all I want to do is drop everything and hit the road with my backpack and guitar.  Never fails.  I am a much better worker when I'm hooked on dope, but that is just a great way to be miserable and broke.

I'm nodd even having any fun :rimshot:


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22543615 - 11/18/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You're only a better worker when you're hooked on dope because you're used to the brief intervals when you're not. Maybe during the times you're not, you're smoking a bunch of weed instead, I dunno. Try getting off the dope and ACTUALLY BEING SOBER at work, and taking some nootropic supplements like a caffeine/theanine/turmeric/ginseng/gingko-biloba combo. Then come back and tell me you were a better worker when you were hooked on dope. I know I THOUGHT I was a super friendly workhorse when I was doped up- I guess I was- but I am just as friendly and hard-working now, and my thoughts are much more well-organized, and I don't have to worry about using dope.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: morrowasted]
    #22543647 - 11/18/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I dunno every time I get clean all I want to do is go live on the street and be a fucking bum, which seems to be backwards from the way most people do it.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22544207 - 11/18/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Not me. Yet Winter is here. Options.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: suttree]
    #22544210 - 11/18/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Just saw this thread and thought I'd say: Over here :wave:


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: suttree]
    #22544245 - 11/18/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

suttree said:
Yet Winter is here. Options.




Get clean, warm, fed and better?


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Adden]
    #22544290 - 11/18/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

There are many options but warmth is the most. Walking downtown and seeing all these buildings with security on alert, cameras, and alarms. How easy it would be to let me have walls and warmth in places rarely used if at all.

Yes, I intruded myself into this thread. Blah.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: suttree]
    #22544359 - 11/18/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thread is for everyone man.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Adden]
    #22544431 - 11/18/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, so many ways to a quick death. Nothing to the needle. Will not fuck with it. But never say never. Sometimes it does not matter. Blah.

Or read a biography of someone who balanced it. Coke as well.
Besides pot the two most popular items on the street. Yeah, blah.

Addiction sucks. That heavily.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: suttree]
    #22545067 - 11/19/15 01:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I took 75mg of tramadol earlier, still feel kinda shitty, but not nearly as bad as before. Hopefully this kinda lowers the pain I have to feel.

We're so dumb, why do we keep doing this to ourselves. I've been trying to get clean for so long, and failing so hard.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Rustifer] * 1
    #22545082 - 11/19/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I dunno man I banged a gram and a half in the past 48h :facepalm: I'm gonna pay for that.  I've got one little shot saved to get through another job interview, and I guess I gotta kick after that, a-fucking-gain.  If I can. 



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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22545115 - 11/19/15 02:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Partied with those guys a few times. Been to a bunch of their shows. They used to all crash at my friends house when they came into town for shows. I miss those days.

I'm applying for jobs too. I'm going to be miserable if I get any of them. Probably going to get hired doing tech support with my brother, having to think and talk and sit in front of a computer all day while halfway sick is the worse, days never end.



Ugh I can't think straight, it's such hard work to formulate thoughts into sentences.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Rustifer]
    #22545186 - 11/19/15 04:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That's awesome you met them.  Music got me through those long 7 days, but yeah, I literally couldn't see straight, and my brain just took over.  I thought I needed glasses or something, but then I got high and all the sudden my eyes work again.  Praise the lord I am healed.

I'm so sore right now from hardcore nodding into uncomfortable positions for hours on end.  The killme dope is back :tongue: not like it's any fun tho.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22545684 - 11/19/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

See I switched to stem and vien for a week and now it seems like I am not even getting withdrawals anymore.

Which means I should just be able to stop using kratom now with no issue.

But my addiction is not really about the withdrawals.

Its about prefering the feels I have on kratom.

So I am about to dose some kratom right now even though I have no real reason why I need to

Just because I want to.

And therein lies the rub

Am I an addict if I don't want to quit?

Or am I only an addict if I want to quit but cant?


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22546201 - 11/19/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Moonshoe said:
See I switched to stem and vien for a week and now it seems like I am not even getting withdrawals anymore.

Which means I should just be able to stop using kratom now with no issue.

But my addiction is not really about the withdrawals.

Its about prefering the feels I have on kratom.

So I am about to dose some kratom right now even though I have no real reason why I need to

Just because I want to.

And therein lies the rub

Am I an addict if I don't want to quit?

Or am I only an addict if I want to quit but cant?




psychological addiction is much worse and lasts much longer. Anyone can go through a few days of pain but years addiction is much harder.


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