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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Adden]
    #22520364 - 11/13/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Sex drive increases or returns after the discontinuation of opiates

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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: TNK]
    #22520372 - 11/13/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22520380 - 11/13/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

lern sum factz


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: TNK]
    #22520538 - 11/13/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It's been otherwise fine but now I feel like a stallion DTF anything that walks. I'm getting minor acne so I assume my testosterone is getting back up there with exercise, hiking and fucking. And not being doped out of my mind, derp.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: TNK]
    #22520656 - 11/13/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Sex drive increases or returns after the discontinuation of opiates

:cookiemonster:



This is true i get very horny during a kick.

I also get extremely horny while on opiates though...


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22520720 - 11/13/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah I think it is the light contrast that fucks with me.  Like driving in the dark, being in sunlight or watching TV in a dark room.

Yeah I try to at least lie down a couple hours, but I'm always listening to music or watching movies or playing guitar.  I actually love drinking when I'm sick, for like an hour or two at least it feels great, but even a little hangover can be brutal.  Just one drink right before bed is usually ok tho, and sometimes it lets me doze for an hour.



i dont really remember having trouble driving when i was sick. But i very much remember how hard it was to see when driving at night high af with my pupils the size of a needle.
But yeah it sounds like youre keepin occupied. Im glad you have the motivation to do this stuff, ill never forget how hard depression gets to me when im sick. I used to be so wrapped up in that perpetual empty sadness that i cried pretty frequently in hopelessness. IMO the mental agony greatly outweighs the physical pains.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: LSDreams]
    #22520753 - 11/13/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

For sure.

I become acutely aware of my mortality, wasted resources and opportunities, and damage ive done to my body.

It almost causes me a panic attack though ive learned to suppress it.

One time though the room started spinning my knees gave out and i couldnt breathe. I was on suboxone at the time but the reality of the cycle i was caught in and how parasitic i was to my loved ones just hit me full force.

I been avoiding a kick with loperamide but im just gonna do it tommorow cause i only been active again for a month or so.

I may even just stop so i can save up for methadone.

I just want a normal life...even sober for months i obsess over opiates. I think maintenance may be the only answer for me.

And i dont say that cause im scared to kick.

Ill probably have to use dope just to fail a ua and get intentionally addicted to methadone and i honestly think its a good idea.

Im just as depressed when abstinent. Maybe even moreso since in active addiction there are moments of normalcy.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle]
    #22520777 - 11/14/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Im just as depressed when abstinent. Maybe even moreso since in active addiction there are moments of normalcy.



Thats what i used to think. You just have to give it some time. And that time doesnt start until after done with maintenance.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: LSDreams]
    #22520827 - 11/14/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I had like six months before this relapse.

Ive also had ten months clean before.

It works for my depression and anxiety and there are clinics that can get me this medication easier and significantly cheaper than going to doctors and having them try out different meds while uninsured.

In fact getting any mental help without insurance is a lengthy process that someone with mental issues probably isnt going to do. I know my anxiety is such that im not even gettin ten thousand dollars im entitled to for getting hit by a car because i dont want to leave the house to talk to lawyers or doctors.

I been battling addiction for ten years and as im sure u know the battle is never over.

In my experience...it doesnt get better past a certain point.

I know its off label to use it for mental issues but its a benign substance with far less side effects than ssris or benzos.

If i didnt want to work and further my education id use weed cause its great for my depression but terrible for my anxiety.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle]
    #22521226 - 11/14/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Wait all you're on is loperamide?  How much do you take?

Still kinda not sure if I've slept or not on day 4.  There are maybe some fuzzy hours, but I don't recall waking up at all, just getting up every hour to smoke.  At least I'm able to sit still for a bit though, which is an improvement.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22522625 - 11/14/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yesterday i ate 120mgs

Took two cimentadine an hour before to help it cross the bbb. Whether thats true or not, i find cimentadine helps it work.

Its not regular i just didnt feel too good after a few days of heroin.
I dont take lope daily in fact thats my only time recently.

Im fine so far today. Im no where near as bad as i used to be and i dont get as physically ill as i used to.


In anycase its the psychological infatuation that always takes me back and when no amount of clean time takes my mind off of it, im about ready to commit to a clinic.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle]
    #22522709 - 11/14/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Dayum, that's like 60 pills.  I think you're lucky that cimentadine doesn't really work, otherwise you'd end up killing yourself at those doses.  Loperamide is supposedly a pretty shitty and dangerous opiate when made active anyway, which is why I imagine it isn't used that way.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle]
    #22522777 - 11/14/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Have you tried kratom for maintenance, Holo?


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: DustBunny]
    #22522864 - 11/14/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yea i went through like three ounces last weekend.

Its not bad but having tried most substances i find methadone the best for maintenance . suboxone had too many side effects and i think should be used as a detoxing agent and not long term.

Also with kratom, the doses i need to feel relief are so high they often come with nausea and a sort of foggy disorientation.
Its a great plant for sure tho and im grateful its legal.

For cravings marijuana is the best since its not physically addicting but i cant really lead a productive life on it.

Im gonna try n stick it out again but abstinence alone isnt the answer.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle]
    #22523290 - 11/14/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry to hear, I figured there was a good chance you had tried it but had to ask. For what it's worth I eat ~23g+/day, which would easily have given me nausea the first few months, but now it never does as long as my doses are spaced appropriately far apart. Work days I have a small ~5g dose right when I wake up, then 9-10g about 10-12hrs later, then a couple hours after that another 9-10g as my last dose of the night. Obviously I'm much more under its influence in the evening, but without nausea and I'm still productive and decently comfortable all day. Only ever get nauseous anymore on days off, when it's only been 5-7hrs between my first and second doses. Of course we're all different I've never had near the opi habit(s) you have, but it works for me.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: DustBunny]
    #22523530 - 11/14/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Jeeze I only have to eat four 00 capsules two or three times a day now and I'm good. You guys probably aren't on the medications I'm on. My wife needs more for her pain so she takes four every 2 hours. Whatever works for whomever :smile:


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Apostle]
    #22524041 - 11/14/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Its not bad but having tried most substances i find methadone the best for maintenance . suboxone had too many side effects and i think should be used as a detoxing agent and not long term.

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Methadone also has side effects, and is much harder to kick.  They don't call it liquid handcuffs for nothing. 

I was thinking of getting on methadone since suboxone just gives me precipitated withdrawals at this point even if I wait several days.  Couldn't take the idea of having to be there every day tho, but I guess it beats risking arrest and all the bullshit that comes with heroin.  Actually used methadone 20mg then 30mg 2 days later to detox from dope (nice taper right? :tongue:), and it was pretty smooth I guess because I never take methadone and there is only partial cross tolerance.

five hours short of five days clean now.  Life is definitely a struggle but I can already see there are great parts of myself that opiates suppress, not to mention all the money it has taken from me. I just realized I spent like 1k in the past month, which is alot for me.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22524109 - 11/14/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You want to get methadone so you can relapse, having spent the last 4 days sick, and end up with withdrawals worse than heroin?

Think, brother. 3 more days is a full week clean.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: Adden]
    #22524166 - 11/14/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nono not now, I was considering it last week tho.  I'm not turning back anytime soon, though I couldn't stop crying like the whole day today.  Some things have gotten better, others worse, but I'm gonna see it through.


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Re: Where are all the addicts? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22524182 - 11/14/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:hug: you can do it man. just think about how much your life will improve


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