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Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN
#22473304 - 11/03/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi everyone,
I have two monotubs (WBS --> Coir/Verm )
I let it consolidate for days after it reached 100% colonization. It was nice and white with only a few brown spots. Now it's mostly yellowish brown...
I have them outside receiving fresh air and indirect sunlight. What's going on?!? It does not look healthy but doesn't have a funky smell to it either

Edited by Diamonds808 (11/03/15 08:56 PM)
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only a few brown spots
Sounds bacterial, and the yellow is metabolites.
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: Diamonds808]
#22473351 - 11/03/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks dry as fuck.
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: MudaFuka]
#22473355 - 11/03/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: Looks dry as fuck.
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Ya. DRY AS FUCK.
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: Diamonds808]
#22473371 - 11/03/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dry as fuck? Omg, there was water pooling just before I took the pictures. I had to dump out all the water since I thought it was overwatered.. whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: Diamonds808]
#22473379 - 11/03/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jesus those things look extremely dry. Not sure if that coloration is just from being super dry or if it's a metabolite.
I assume you didn't case. I'd flip the subs over then dunk them. It's unlikely you'll get a good pinset out of mycellium that got fucked that badly. DW about losing the liner, sidepinning won't be a problem, but pinning might.
I thought "oh the sun for warmth, what a good idea," when I started. Fucked me good.
It was probably wet from all that water that evaporated off the sub and condensed on the tub.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: Diamonds808]
#22473385 - 11/03/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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That may be an actual case of cube overlay right there...
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: LocN9ne]
#22473411 - 11/03/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said: That may be an actual case of cube overlay right there...
That's what I'd say. OP, whip up a casing layer of coir and vermiculite and apply. Hail mary time
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: azur]
#22473418 - 11/03/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah if it's pooling water and looks like that. What are the chances.
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: MudaFuka]
#22473430 - 11/03/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think it'll fruit something if she cases it
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: azur]
#22473443 - 11/03/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe scrape the surface first.
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: azur]
#22473451 - 11/03/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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With that amount of shrinkage, flipping dunking would be well worth while IMO. Much better chance of getting a good pinset off mycellium that wasn't dried to hell on the bottom. Wouldn't be surprised if there are already pins on the bottom.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: MudaFuka]
#22473467 - 11/03/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe. Idk. It's either overlay or a non fruiting culture. Tell us more op. Have you fruited this culture before? How high were the temps on this run?
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: MudaFuka]
#22473477 - 11/03/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: Maybe scrape the surface first.
That's what I'd try, then case...what's the worst that could happen
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: azur]
#22473500 - 11/03/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It could be stoma. I'm not sure how to deal with stroma but you should search it. You might find something that helps.
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: MudaFuka]
#22473518 - 11/03/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is it oysters?
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: LocN9ne]
#22473532 - 11/03/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: azur]
#22473534 - 11/03/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I actually don't think it's overlay. It's not cased is it?
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: LocN9ne]
#22473561 - 11/03/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's elm oyster and no casing layer. & I have not fruited this before.
Temps might be too high from low 80s to low 70s. There is a 10 degree drop from day to night.
Edited by Diamonds808 (11/03/15 09:45 PM)
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: Diamonds808]
#22473581 - 11/03/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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That changes everything. Get your Temps down a bit and use straw or sawdust next time. I don't know how oysters do on coir. You might want to take your questions to the edible and medicinal mushroom board. This board is dedicated to actives.
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: MudaFuka]
#22473605 - 11/03/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Even if it does fruit, oysters in monotubs SUCK beyond all shittiness
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: azur]
#22473618 - 11/03/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah that too.
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: MudaFuka]
#22473647 - 11/03/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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That sucks!!
I haven't been able to find any sawdust or straw. Well, I'll have to drive 2 hours for straw (oneway) and the only free sawdust I found was softwood (and I did a test run (mixed with brf but no go)
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: Diamonds808]
#22473657 - 11/03/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I recall seeing a tek on here that used bags of woodmulch from homedepot for oysters. Seemed legit enough.
Edit: Oh yeah, god wrote it: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21744280
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
Edited by Machiavelliavore (11/03/15 10:02 PM)
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: Diamonds808]
#22473670 - 11/03/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Try wood fuel pellets
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: azur]
#22473684 - 11/03/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I use hardwood full pellets for a lot of my edibles. I get 40lb bags for like $6 ot moste hardware store.
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: MudaFuka]
#22473741 - 11/03/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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$5 here
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: azur]
#22473763 - 11/03/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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that is not overlay, overlay happens in casing layers not on subs...oyster tubs suck balls, softwood is fine to use as well
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: MudaFuka]
#22473773 - 11/03/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: That changes everything. Get your Temps down a bit and use straw or sawdust next time. I don't know how oysters do on coir. You might want to take your questions to the edible and medicinal mushroom board. This board is dedicated to actives.
they do great on it, but you will be hard pressed to get your money back out of it
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Machiavelliavore said: I recall seeing a tek on here that used bags of woodmulch from homedepot for oysters. Seemed legit enough.
Edit: Oh yeah, god wrote it: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21744280
That tech is awesome!!! Thanks! I'll def. look for some wood mulch.

So should I just forget about the monotubs?? >.<
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: Diamonds808]
#22474253 - 11/04/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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From my extremely limited experience they need a lot more FAE than a monotub provides. Also heard they prefer to pin sideways rather than from the top of a sub. I think I've seen people doing shitake and reishi (sp?) with monotubs on here if you're going for some kind of monotub edible.
I'm still not completely clear on the pinning strat for oysters. Bags with slits or buckets w/ holes/laundry baskets w seems to be pretty much what every oyter tek boils down to that I've seen. I assume most green houses would do the trick, but how you get them to pin without a greenhouse, I'm not entirely sure, especially since you can't case a slit or mist into it very easily.
Some kind of limited time high humidity cover for pinning might work, but oysters react very poorly very quickly to low FAE from what I've seen.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
Edited by Machiavelliavore (11/04/15 01:20 AM)
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I use totes full of pasteurized straw with holes cut all around them. They can be fruited either in a green house or a shady spot outside.
 
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: MudaFuka]
#22474649 - 11/04/15 06:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You guys don't think that looks bacteria related?
Oh man I recently deleted the pic, but I had an old photo of a tray that must have dried out really bad or something the surface matted severely. Used to bust it out as a joke in overlay threads
It eventually did pin but only at the sides. The top was so thick and matted it was just never gunna happen.
Edit .. oh now its oysters? Well anyway I wish I still had the pic , it was as close to "overlay" type situation on a casing layer on purpose
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: mushpunx]
#22474708 - 11/04/15 06:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you normally fruit oysters in a mono? I thought they wouldn't get enuff fae in a mono and be all stemmy ? I fruited my oysters outdoors open air in a "muda bucket" i think it was called. I've noticed if you leave oyster spawn around for awhile then open the jar it looks like Ops tub....
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: tetherface]
#22477258 - 11/04/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is my first time doing oysters.
>.<
Epic fail I guess.
I just had a bunch of coir and verm so I though what the heck since straw is really hard to find (farms are a good 2 hours away--and I even called and a lot of them said they have really shitty straw--:()
Do you think I could do the wood pellets in Muda's bucket tek?
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: Diamonds808]
#22477287 - 11/04/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Definitely
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Re: Monotub turned YELLOW/BROWN [Re: Diamonds808]
#22477388 - 11/04/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alrighty. They have gotten worse so I guess I'll just trash them. >.<
I have another one in the works. I already spawned it before these horrible results so IDK what to do about it.
I'll post pics. It looks good... now...
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