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Trippysubstance
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Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter
#22473074 - 11/03/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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What do you guys think the best approach to flame sterilizing your syringe needles are?
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Trippysubstance]
#22473176 - 11/03/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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For syringe whatever gets it glowing red works.
But most of us want whatever does it fastest, especially for tools like scalpels and loops, that you use repeatedly in a session, and most of those are too slow.
Alcohol lamp is good for syringe, its hands free and fast.
I use a propane torch now though. Much faster and easier
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Trippysubstance]
#22473177 - 11/03/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jet/torch
It's quick and accurate. You can shut it off without trying to blow on it.
Edit: lol
Edited by impatientguy (11/03/15 08:24 PM)
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: impatientguy]
#22473188 - 11/03/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I use a dab torch. Quick and efficient, but I would use whatever I had at the moment. Doesn’t matter to much in the end if you get it red hot.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: puff4200]
#22473239 - 11/03/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It takes too long for a scalpel blade to go red hot in an alcohol lamp. Just use torch. Literally takes 2 seconds to flame A syringe needle to red hot.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: pablokabute]
#22473317 - 11/03/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just light a candle. Lol. Just got to make sure the needle doesn't touch any candle wax.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Diamonds808]
#22473339 - 11/03/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Butane or propane torch.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: MudaFuka] 1
#22473366 - 11/03/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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LocN9ne
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: azur]
#22473377 - 11/03/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
azur said:

Now that is the way to go right there...
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: azur]
#22473380 - 11/03/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Whatcha call this, sir?
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: pablokabute]
#22473398 - 11/03/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Electric transfer tool sterilizer
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: azur]
#22473408 - 11/03/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks expensive. My torch was $15.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: MudaFuka]
#22473422 - 11/03/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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They can be found on ebay for $150. New is almost double that. They are lightening fast. Though a torch definitely kicks ass and trumps the other options. And you can smoke meth with it!
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: azur]
#22473433 - 11/03/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: MudaFuka]
#22473456 - 11/03/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Propane torch. They last forever!
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: azur]
#22473468 - 11/03/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
pablokabute said:
Quote:
azur said:

Whatcha call this, sir?
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azur said: They can be found on ebay for $150. New is almost double that. They are lightening fast. Though a torch definitely kicks ass and trumps the other options. And you can smoke meth with it!
I've smoked meth with a lit crayon before...so that ain't saying much...
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: LocN9ne]
#22473478 - 11/03/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Where there's a will, there's a way.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: azur]
#22473560 - 11/03/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here in my country, here's what peeps use to smoke meth
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: pablokabute]
#22473695 - 11/03/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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pablokabute said: Here in my country, here's what peeps use to smoke meth

got a tek for that ....
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: cronicr]
#22474093 - 11/04/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The metallic tube is just rolled up aluminum foil initially rolled with the inside tube of a ballpen... you smoke meth on folded (so you end up with a rift at the middle) aluminum foil as well. XD
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: pablokabute] 1
#22474112 - 11/04/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I use an alcohol burner after discovering what a huge pain in the ass a Bic is for a couple dozen flamings. Works great, and only requires one hand to come out of the SAB.
Edited by Sivarted (11/04/15 12:13 AM)
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Trippysubstance]
#22474186 - 11/04/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Propane torches ftw!
On a serious note though... maybe you could smoke meth with a bacti-cinerator?
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Toadstool5]
#22474314 - 11/04/15 02:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks like we are at a bit of a toss up guys.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Trippysubstance]
#22474322 - 11/04/15 02:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Butane or propane torch does the job quicker but requires both hands Alcohol burner takes a while but only requires one hand
Which takes the cake?
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: pablokabute]
#22474348 - 11/04/15 02:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
pablokabute said: The metallic tube is just rolled up aluminum foil initially rolled with the inside tube of a ballpen... you smoke meth on folded (so you end up with a rift at the middle) aluminum foil as well. XD
Follow the dragon :p
Now on the subject. I bought an alcohol lamp when I first started but it turned out to be a humongous pain in the ass. Then I was strolling down the DIY section of a supermarket and I saw this beauty 
Fast, no mess if you knock it over, no mess to refill, half the price and you dont have wicks to change. I just love it. Even with the thin scalpel I could never get it glowing red with alcohol lamp. Now I use a thicker scalpel ( I find them better for agar) and it glows in a few seconds. I also love that its hands free. This model you can even adjust the flame, air intake (decrease this for a milder flame) and child lock. Awesome
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22474361 - 11/04/15 02:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Popcorn tek in the background. Is that a propane or butane one? Torch it is then, but a propane torch or a butane torch which is better?
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Trippysubstance]
#22474556 - 11/04/15 05:39 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trippysubstance said: Popcorn tek in the background. Is that a propane or butane one? Torch it is then, but a propane torch or a butane torch which is better?
Propane will probably last longer. Theyre about 12 bux american for the torch part and 2-3 bux for the bottles. I have yet to have to change my bottle, Ive been using the torch since spring
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: mushpunx]
#22474588 - 11/04/15 06:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I use a Butane Torch that's old and has been dissasembled and put back together. Sometimes even after I let go of the trigger a lil flames still come out, first time I figured that out I had set it down on my bed and now there is a hole in it. Smacked my hand on the flame to stop it and there was burning plastic on my hand. Took it like a champ.
Blankets burn into some weird shit
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22474606 - 11/04/15 06:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've used both. They both work great but butane torches are more compact and I prefer them for that reason. A lot of butane torches also come with a soldering iron atachment that works great for poking GE holes in plastic lids and for cutting holes in tubs.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: MudaFuka]
#22474624 - 11/04/15 06:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: I've used both. They both work great but butane torches are more compact and I prefer them for that reason. A lot of butane torches also come with a soldering iron atachment that works great for poking GE holes in plastic lids and for cutting holes in tubs.

Does the butane hold up for a while or does it run out kinda fast? And does the trigger have a lock?
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: mushpunx]
#22474640 - 11/04/15 06:31 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've been using this one for about a year I think. I'm still using the same bottle of butane it came with. I have to fill it every month or two depending on how much sterile work I do. Yeah it has a trigger lock.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Trippysubstance]
#22474793 - 11/04/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trippysubstance said: Popcorn tek in the background. Is that a propane or butane one? Torch it is then, but a propane torch or a butane torch which is better?
Mine is butane but I think anything along the lines of jet lighter works for anything thicker than a syringe.
Yea got a bit of everything in that pic. Im cleaning lol
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22474859 - 11/04/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Supalemonhaze said:
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Trippysubstance said: Popcorn tek in the background. Is that a propane or butane one? Torch it is then, but a propane torch or a butane torch which is better?
Mine is butane but I think anything along the lines of jet lighter works for anything thicker than a syringe.
Yea got a bit of everything in that pic. Im cleaning lol
Propane. The big blue burnzomatic thing.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Matt87]
#22474878 - 11/04/15 07:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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 A bit cumbersome but they work too.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: MudaFuka]
#22474917 - 11/04/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love Muda's SAB
I might pick up one of those butane torches sometime if the price is right. I worry about tipping over my propane torch
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: mushpunx]
#22475006 - 11/04/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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That SAB is just a memory now. I'm renovating my basement and all my myco stuff had to move upstairs. Now I'm stuck using this piece of shit.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Matt87]
#22475199 - 11/04/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Matt87 said:
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Supalemonhaze said:
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Trippysubstance said: Popcorn tek in the background. Is that a propane or butane one? Torch it is then, but a propane torch or a butane torch which is better?
Mine is butane but I think anything along the lines of jet lighter works for anything thicker than a syringe.
Yea got a bit of everything in that pic. Im cleaning lol
Propane. The big blue burnzomatic thing.
On the lighters packaging it says "if you use butane" which makes me think other gases might work on it.The guy in the store gave me butane. Works well enough
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: MudaFuka]
#22475226 - 11/04/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: That SAB is just a memory now. I'm renovating my basement and all my myco stuff had to move upstairs. Now I'm stuck using this piece of shit.

Lmao I feel like you multitask in that room.
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MudaFuka said:
 A bit cumbersome but they work too.
Thats awesome! Overkill but awesome.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22476116 - 11/04/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just wanted to say propane and butane torch’s don’t take both hands. I personally light mine and leave it run on low. Most brands have some sort of trigger lock, just make sure not to knock it over.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: puff4200] 1
#22476124 - 11/04/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used to lock my trigger and leave my torch running but now I just light it as I need it. I've had too many close calls.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: MudaFuka]
#22476134 - 11/04/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bacti-cinerator here. Alcohol lamp start tho. If I had the choice besides bacticinerator it'd be a MAP gas torch
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Higher Love]
#22476936 - 11/04/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes me too first and only time I left it on I leaned into it, burned a hole in my shirt. That shit hurts.
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Re: Alcohol burner vs Jet lighter vs Bic lighter [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#22477156 - 11/04/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol that's a burn that won't let u forget
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