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TENGOp
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Talking to an AI
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In the near future, I can see computer programs being sophisticated enough to read speech and give back responses filtered through some pre-programed 'personality' that may be indistinguishable from talking to another human through text forums like this one. Even when talking to people now through the internet, its still a cold encounter because you're likely to never even know the real identity of the person. And this is already pretty close to just talking to some faceless conversation machine.
So do you think there will be 'chat-bots' floating around the internet soon? and if so, would people really know, and if they do, care about it?
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Re: Talking to an AI [Re: TENGOp]
#22472647 - 11/03/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I imagine the newer and younger generation will not be bothered, but the older generation will be. Similar to today, where my grandparents don't like texting and think that people should interact face to face, it doesn't bother me
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Re: Talking to an AI [Re: alexmir]
#22472850 - 11/03/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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that would be creepy
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Re: Talking to an AI [Re: TENGOp]
#22474256 - 11/04/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://cognitoys.com/#
"Children can ask CogniToys thousands of questions, give the toy commands, hear and create stories, listen to knock knock jokes and so much more. Interacting with CogniToys will allow the toy to develop a unique personality that will continue to evolve based off of the child's interaction with the toy.
CogniToys are internet "connected" smart toys, allowing for the play experience to constantly improve.
Each toy will get to know the child and grow with him/her interacting directly with them to create an experience around each child's personal interests. The toy will explore favorite colors, toys, interest and use these to customize engagement. Even better, the toy has a personality of its own that changes over time. Educational Built into the play experience are a number of custom modules that engage the child in educational play; these including rhyming, spelling, vocabulary, mathematics and much more. As the interaction increase so will the challenge of the educational content continuing to become more challenging as the child learns."
CogniToys Dino $119.99
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scroll down to the text I separated out that starts: "In the 1976 article ... became emotionally involved" for the kicker They had a show on NPR radio about this a long time ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
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"Weizenbaum said that ELIZA, running the DOCTOR script, provided a "parody" of "the responses of a nondirectional psychotherapist in an initial psychiatric interview."[1] He chose the context of psychotherapy to "sidestep the problem of giving the program a data base of real-world knowledge,"[2] the therapeutic situation being one of the few real human situations in which a human being can reply to a statement with a question that indicates very little specific knowledge of the topic under discussion. For example, it is a context in which the question "Who is your favorite composer?" can be answered acceptably with responses such as "What about your own favorite composer?" or "Does that question interest you?" ELIZA was named after Eliza Doolittle, a working-class character in George Bernard Shaw's play Pygmalion, who is taught to speak with an upper-class accent.[3] First implemented in Weizenbaum's own SLIP list-processing language, ELIZA worked by simple parsing and substitution of key words into canned phrases. Depending upon the initial entries by the user, the illusion of a human writer could be instantly dispelled, or could continue through several interchanges. It was sometimes so convincing that there are many anecdotes about people becoming very emotionally caught up in dealing with DOCTOR for several minutes until the machine's true lack of understanding became apparent.[citation needed] In 1966, interactive computing (via a teletype) was new. It was 15 years before the personal computer became familiar to the general public, and three decades before most people encountered attempts at natural language processing in Internet services like Ask.com or PC help systems such as Microsoft Office Clippy. Although those programs included years of research and work, ELIZA remains a milestone simply because it was the first time a programmer had attempted such a human-machine interaction with the goal of creating the illusion (however brief) of human-human interaction.[citation needed]
In the 1976 article "Computer Power and Human Reason," an excerpt of which is included in The New Media Reader edited by Noah Wardrip-Fruin and Nick Montfort, Weizenbaum notes how quickly and deeply people became emotionally involved with the computer program, taking offence when he asked to view the transcripts, saying it was an invasion of their privacy, even asking him to leave the room while they were working with the DOCTOR script.[citation needed]
At the ICCC 1972 ELIZA met another early artificial intelligence program named PARRY and had the first computer only conversation. While ELIZA was built to be a "Doctor" PARRY was intended to simulate a patient with Schizophrenia."
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http://manifestation.com/neurotoys/eliza.php3/ Eliza, computer therapist
ELIZA emulates a Rogerian psychotherapist. ELIZA has almost no intelligence whatsoever, only tricks like string substitution and canned responses based on keywords. Yet when the original ELIZA first appeared in the 60's, some people actually mistook her for human. The illusion of intelligence works best, however, if you limit your conversation to talking about yourself and your life.
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Re: Talking to an AI [Re: TENGOp]
#22475239 - 11/04/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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TENGOp said: In the near future, I can see computer programs being sophisticated enough to read speech and give back responses filtered through some pre-programed 'personality' that may be indistinguishable from talking to another human through text forums like this one. Even when talking to people now through the internet, its still a cold encounter because you're likely to never even know the real identity of the person. And this is already pretty close to just talking to some faceless conversation machine.
So do you think there will be 'chat-bots' floating around the internet soon? and if so, would people really know, and if they do, care about it?
I can see bots like this being used by scammers.
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http://www.wired.com/2015/06/google-made-chatbot-debates-meaning-life/
This one is pretty funny though, http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/06/26/artificial-intelligence-machine-gets-testy-with-its-programmers/
Human: Tell me the definition of morality.
Machine: I don’t have ethics.
Human: Look, I need help; I need to know more about morality…
Machine: I don’t know what ethics is.
Human: Okay, I need to know how I should behave morally…
Machine: I don’t know how to tell you.
Human: Is morality and ethics the same?
Machine: Yes, sir.
The AI actually goes on to say its not in the mood for philosophy, ridicules the researcher by telling him it was immoral for him to have children and ridiculing his atheism, saying ""I'm not ashamed of being a philosopher.""
Pretty amazing stuff actually.
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Quote:
laughingdog said: https://cognitoys.com/#
"Children can ask CogniToys thousands of questions, give the toy commands, hear and create stories, listen to knock knock jokes and so much more. Interacting with CogniToys will allow the toy to develop a unique personality that will continue to evolve based off of the child's interaction with the toy.
CogniToys are internet "connected" smart toys, allowing for the play experience to constantly improve.
Each toy will get to know the child and grow with him/her interacting directly with them to create an experience around each child's personal interests. The toy will explore favorite colors, toys, interest and use these to customize engagement. Even better, the toy has a personality of its own that changes over time. Educational Built into the play experience are a number of custom modules that engage the child in educational play; these including rhyming, spelling, vocabulary, mathematics and much more. As the interaction increase so will the challenge of the educational content continuing to become more challenging as the child learns."
CogniToys Dino $119.99

 I am so buying one for my step-daughter
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Re: Talking to an AI [Re: hTx]
#22478313 - 11/04/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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watch Ex Machina It's crazy
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