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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22478425 - 11/04/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

just go a surprise ,checking my jars and found the most beutiful sight


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: scrimm35]
    #22478431 - 11/04/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

now my question tonight is do i still dunk and roll this?


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: scrimm35]
    #22478440 - 11/04/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You sure do.


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: scrimm35]
    #22478441 - 11/04/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, dunk and roll as usual :thumbup:


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22478455 - 11/04/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What about the big ass squished shroom (pin)in there it stays on ? or do i pick it off


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: scrimm35]
    #22478461 - 11/04/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Leave it. It'll continue to mature when you introduce it to fruiting conditions.


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22478476 - 11/04/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

so let me be sure i got this d and r as usual leave the immature fruit on during d and r and it will continue to grow afterwards .yes


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: scrimm35]
    #22478495 - 11/04/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

thanks:takingnotes:


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
    #22478867 - 11/04/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I'd ditch the air pump stuff.

if its a good fruiting chamber you don't need a pump, it's just a vector for contams IMO




How is an air pump any more risk of a contamination issue? Fruiting is not a sterile process, if the cake was fully colonized, contamination should no longer be an issue.



Just throwing this out there, impatient is right. But for the same reasons why sgfcs are better. Becuse constant naturally aspirated airflow is best! Air exchange will keep ALL contams down. Even trich and cobweb when you throw it outside into a contam pile.

In a low fae chamber you get all kinds of contamination problems. Botching on caps, bacteria in the substrate, vert thrives, and the evil green shit. Ironically exposing them to more contams and air, makes them have less contams haha (when in fruiting)


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: Mad Season]
    #22479638 - 11/05/15 06:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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impatientguy said:
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I'd ditch the air pump stuff.

if its a good fruiting chamber you don't need a pump, it's just a vector for contams IMO




How is an air pump any more risk of a contamination issue? Fruiting is not a sterile process, if the cake was fully colonized, contamination should no longer be an issue.



Just throwing this out there, impatient is right. But for the same reasons why sgfcs are better. Becuse constant naturally aspirated airflow is best! Air exchange will keep ALL contams down. Even trich and cobweb when you throw it outside into a contam pile.

In a low fae chamber you get all kinds of contamination problems. Botching on caps, bacteria in the substrate, vert thrives, and the evil green shit. Ironically exposing them to more contams and air, makes them have less contams haha (when in fruiting)




Then it's the fruiting chambers problem airflow problem, not the humidifier, right? I'm not disagreeing with you at all, adding a mister to a fruiting chamber is bad news and will bring in nasty contams IF you don't know what you're doing. But if you DO know what you're doing, for instance a well built martha, then its not the humidifier being the vector. It still rest on the fact that someone doesn't understand how to dial in the air currents to provide proper FAE.

Like I said I'm not disagreeing with you, but I don't think you can solely blame the item being the vector when it's just shoddy craftsmanship in the first place. But this is why we steer everyone to the SGFC, so that no one has to worry about how well they can build a fruiting chamber, nor worry about bring in contaminants due to shitty airflow. But at the same time, some of the best producing grows I've seen are from humidifiers and coolmist in marthas or GH's, granted, they're built and dialed in perfectly, but absolutely zero contams.


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
    #22479734 - 11/05/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

But no one should use an air pump on a gh. Those are cool mist humidifiers and wicks.. And unless it's a walk in tent, it's still getting the fae from the openings in the GH. Not the pump or humidifiers(the same point you made). They just help at moving air around such a big chamber.

Tubs, which are smaller and should be easier to exchange air (so easily in fact, you dont need any of that shit) still don't get any airflow when you rely on a pump.

My point was that relying on a pump or humidifier for airflow will increase chances of contaminations. Ghs rely on opening the flaps, or in the case of my walk in, a fan at the entrance. While I do agree about fae, and it's not the humidifiers fault.. A GH is no different than any other chamber. Just make more air holes/open the flaps more if you need more, and that's the understanding of fae.

Asking/using an air pump for fae shows he knows very little about it, and unless he adds holes (makes a $5 sgfc.. Hint hint op) he can see contams MUCH easier. 94-98% rh sounds like bacteria haven. I like it more like 55-80% rh.


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: Mad Season]
    #22480759 - 11/05/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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But no one should use an air pump on a gh. Those are cool mist humidifiers and wicks.. And unless it's a walk in tent, it's still getting the fae from the openings in the GH. Not the pump or humidifiers(the same point you made). They just help at moving air around such a big chamber.

Tubs, which are smaller and should be easier to exchange air (so easily in fact, you dont need any of that shit) still don't get any airflow when you rely on a pump.

My point was that relying on a pump or humidifier for airflow will increase chances of contaminations. Ghs rely on opening the flaps, or in the case of my walk in, a fan at the entrance. While I do agree about fae, and it's not the humidifiers fault.. A GH is no different than any other chamber. Just make more air holes/open the flaps more if you need more, and that's the understanding of fae.

Asking/using an air pump for fae shows he knows very little about it, and unless he adds holes (makes a $5 sgfc.. Hint hint op) he can see contams MUCH easier. 94-98% rh sounds like bacteria haven. I like it more like 55-80% rh.




Spot on. I know the simple and easiest reason is that people aren't sure exactly whats going on so anything not a SGFC is setting up room for failure. Especially in something like a tub fruiting chamber. You guys are absolutely right, I wasn't thinking about the application and rather only about the item.

I have never personally worked with a GH so I don't know too much about them, I just know using peripheral accessories like air pumps and humidifiers give people amazing results. I want to build one in the future, how do you fancy yours Mad?


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
    #22481151 - 11/05/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The walk in is still in blueprints but it's awesome AF. Aside from the shelving, it'll cost me under $80 (maybe less depending on the price I can get for PVC) to make the whole thing. It won't have any humidifiers either. Just a cool mist spray to act as a misting. I've been busy moving my mother in laws shit out... She got kicked out for being a horder... So you can guess what's happening there :facepalm:


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: Mad Season]
    #22482024 - 11/05/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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The walk in is still in blueprints but it's awesome AF. Aside from the shelving, it'll cost me under $80 (maybe less depending on the price I can get for PVC) to make the whole thing. It won't have any humidifiers either. Just a cool mist spray to act as a misting. I've been busy moving my mother in laws shit out... She got kicked out for being a horder... So you can guess what's happening there :facepalm:




Nice I'd love to see some pics when it's all done. :dancer: I'm guessing if you go with a cool mist, it'll be pretty much 100% automated? As long as you go with a timer switch for your lights obviously.

:laugh2: I feel your pain man. Hopefully it'll go pretty smoothly. :thumbup: I've seen some rough stuff before from a hoarder. Didn't help he was a tweaker also lol.


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Re: bright white fuzz on my dunked and rolled cakes [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
    #22482372 - 11/05/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

ok ok ok i am new at this (noobie) i came here for advise and received it ,lots of it ,great stuff,i have done tons of research, and still am,every day trying to hone my techniques, and this forum has been a godsend to me. that being said here's my query for tonight .

1--is it safe to drill holes in my fc while im actively trying to fruit cakes?

2--if and when i drill them should i then scrap the whole hydroton setup ?

3--and one other thing should i wait to see in-vitro pinning/fruiting before i birth the other 19 cakes i have consolidating now?


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