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Re: NFL 2015-2016 [Re: emf]
#22468966 - 11/02/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vernon Davis to the Broncs. New England at Denver soon. Powers that be.
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Brian Jones
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Re: NFL 2015-2016 [Re: suttree]
#22469346 - 11/03/15 02:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's going to be a good one, and could determine home field in the AFC championship game. It's true that defenses win championships, and Denver is impressive, but who knows what's going to be left of Manning's shoulder at the end of the season.
And then there's coaching, and there is no debate there. The difference between the best and the next 5 is the size of the Grand Canyon. Belichik makes fools of otherwise intelligent men.
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So what do we think about Carolina and Cincinnati, as far as the post season? I don't have a clue.
And then there's Indy tied for first at 3-5 in this horrible division. Who ever comes out there is going to be one and done.
Atlanta's looking like a wild card. And then there's the Saints who started out sucking, but they now score at will.
What do u think?
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psilocybinjunkie
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Brian Jones said: That's going to be a good one, and could determine home field in the AFC championship game. It's true that defenses win championships, and Denver is impressive, but who knows what's going to be left of Manning's shoulder at the end of the season.
They have a backup that can step in and win games with that amazing defense if Peyton breaks down, i'm not worried about defensive teams in the post season, it's the high octane offensive teams that almost always fail or lose SB's. I will take NE in that game however just based on how Peyton has played there over the last 16 years or so. I will be routing for the Broncos to win, love me some defensive football, really loved the old Ravens Defense, love my Hawks defense, and The Broncos defense is awesome this year! Should be a good game, they embarrassed Green Bay and clowned Rodgers maybe they can give Brady some troubles and get a lot of hits on him. Should be a good game, I am looking forward to it!
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zappaisgod said: You are focusing only on the GB offense. They also have a strong D. It just didn't show up yesterday.
After re-reading the last couple of pages this post still really stands out for it's absurdity.
In reality the Packers defense isn't even close to good. I don't see how people can say a defense that allows Phillip Rivers to pass for 503 yards and go 43 for 65 attempts is good. Allowing 500+ passing yards in a game is legendarily bad, Russel had his best performance of the year vs The packers D, Peyton Manning had his best performance of the year vs the Packers D, and so did Phillip Rivers. So what you have is a terrible defense that is somehow getting props for allowing multiple Quarterbacks of varying ability to post their best games and getting 503 passing yards posted up on you is not what happens to a good defense. You cannot omit all of the season best games Quarterbacks have had vs the Packers and claim they are good. Here is a link for you that lists the actual ratings and yards allowed by defense and The Packers are 23rd > http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2015&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1
Denver and Seattle currently are rated #1 and #2 in total defense while Green Bay is #23 and will only slide as they wear out during a long season.
As for the Panthers and Bengals post season viability who knows, so far they haven't been able to win much in the post season, or at all for Dalton.
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Denver and Seattle currently are rated #1 and #2 in total defense while Green Bay is #23 and will only slide as they wear out during a long season.
I feel differently... I think they'll correct some things and start heading back in the right direction. Any team hoping for a postseason run needs to correct their bad spots during the season..I have faith that their coaching staff will make the necessary changes and get em back on track.
Of course, they may still slip, but I feel there's enough talent on board to make it happen.
Denver exposed a lot of glaring issues with us. They had a great game plan and even after the bye week, GB didn't do what they needed to do.
but again, any great team will make the changes. That's what makes a team good, is seeing what needs to be addressed and fucking doing it.
One loss didn't damn them, I think it may actually help them in the long run, so in this instance, as long as they're able to learn from it, I'm glad they were deconstructed so thoroughly by Denver,
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Re: NFL 2015-2016 [Re: shLong]
#22470616 - 11/03/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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On that same line, here is an excerpt from Vince Lombardi from 50 years ago when the undefeated Packers went on the road and lost 31-10 to the Bears...
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"It's a long season, and we're still in first place. We're not pushing the panic button. One win doesn't make a season and one loss doesn't lose it. Nobody likes to lose but maybe this was a good thing for us. We'll come back."
That team went on to win an NFL championship.
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Re: NFL 2015-2016 [Re: shLong]
#22471370 - 11/03/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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All I know is that I'd love the Panthers to get the #1 seed over the Packers. They can be defeated at home a lot easier than GB.
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Re: NFL 2015-2016 [Re: shLong]
#22471405 - 11/03/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Source: 49ers were going to do this last week, but decided to wait so that Gabbert could debut against a weak Falcons defense at home.
Lol
The falcons official twitter replied with i shit you not
“Oh.”
Hahahahaha ATL is fucking weak
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shLong said: On that same line, here is an excerpt from Vince Lombardi from 50 years ago when the undefeated Packers went on the road and lost 31-10 to the Bears...
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"It's a long season, and we're still in first place. We're not pushing the panic button. One win doesn't make a season and one loss doesn't lose it. Nobody likes to lose but maybe this was a good thing for us. We'll come back."
That team went on to win an NFL championship.

Sorry to kill your thunder but that team also had Vince Lombardi at coach.

McCarthy blows. I don’t know why your wasting Rodgers prime on a mediocre coach that never produces results.
Your team is one dimension as fuck. You are only in first place nominally..... if that. AZ>GB imo, atleast they play defense. You guys have a strong Carolina team to worry about anyway. Cam gonna tap that ass unless you fix a lot of shit. Clay Matthews is the only guy on that whole team who wants to play defense. Its a structural problem though. McCarthy’s regime is just soft all around.
He should have gotten the axe in Seattle last year, now you guys are living to regret it.
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Re: NFL 2015-2016 [Re: elax420]
#22471494 - 11/03/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think GB can be one of the best offensive teams in the NFC, but this year they are not a top offense and their defense is very bad. I really don't see how their defense can improve when they don't have the talent. Packers are an enjoyable team to watch and I like Rodgers, but the defense is just no. Will they have a good season with such a weak schedule, yes probably. Will having a porous defense that gives up 500+ yard passing games cost them a game in the playoffs, more than likely it will. It is really really hard to win out in the playoffs and SB with a shit tier defense and they don't actually have the talent to be much improved as the season wears on and more teams beat on an already weak defense. GB's total offense is actually ranked 28th this season, with the 27th passing offense, but their points per game is at 10th place currently. So I do have faith they can improve on offense, just can't see how a defense that doesn't have shutdown corners or an elite pass rush can drastically improve over the next 8 or so weeks. With that extremely soft schedule they have a great shot at 13-3 and home field advantage however. If they can get their offense going that home field advantage could be a huge problem for other teams in January. They should be able to beat Carolina next week, unless they can't stop the run and get beat up in time of possession.
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psilocybinjunkie said: I think GB can be one of the best offensive teams in the NFC, but this year they are not a top offense and their defense is very bad. I really don't see how their defense can improve when they don't have the talent. Packers are an enjoyable team to watch and I like Rodgers, but the defense is just no. Will they have a good season with such a weak schedule, yes probably. Will having a porous defense that gives up 500+ yard passing games cost them a game in the playoffs, more than likely it will. It is really really hard to win out in the playoffs and SB with a shit tier defense and they don't actually have the talent to be much improved as the season wears on and more teams beat on an already weak defense. GB's total offense is actually ranked 28th this season, with the 27th passing offense, but their points per game is at 10th place currently. So I do have faith they can improve on offense, just can't see how a defense that doesn't have shutdown corners or an elite pass rush can drastically improve over the next 8 or so weeks. With that extremely soft schedule they have a great shot at 13-3 and home field advantage however. If they can get their offense going that home field advantage could be a huge problem for other teams in January. They should be able to beat Carolina next week, unless they can't stop the run and get beat up in time of possession.
Not this year.
They have no Receivers. Denver gave up <100 yards. That isn’t only on Rodgers the receivers played like shit too. Lacy is a terrible back too. He’s fat he’s slow and he’s blind. Ha trent richardson is still in the league? no shit.... But for real Lacy sucks.
The Defense is a tragedy. They have probably the best Linebacker in football and surrounded him with guys that couldn’t make some teams practice squad.
I dont think they will beat Carolina. Carolina isn’t very strong (as evidenced by last night) but neither is Green Bay and they just got wrecked (aaron rodgers ego definitely took a hit and he’s an egomaniacal douche so....)
Carolina has a good secondary though and Cam is a legit QB. I really dont think the defense can handle his ability. GB has one of the worst Receiving corp in the NFL (even with Jordy)
Also these people need to hold up on the Andrew Luck sucks talk. The market is too volatile right now he went from the future GOAT to black sheep in 8 games. He’s gonna suck this year but give him time.
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Re: NFL 2015-2016 [Re: elax420]
#22471540 - 11/03/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can't seriously think you can use Lombardi as a comparison with any active coach..
Anyways, I think they'll shore up their weak points soon enough. I still believe they'll go further than any other team. (and would still put real $ on that belief)
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Re: NFL 2015-2016 [Re: shLong]
#22471557 - 11/03/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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And yeah, MM may have fucked up in the NFCCG, but it's not like there's a whole host of awesome coaches available out there to pick up.
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Re: NFL 2015-2016 [Re: shLong]
#22471597 - 11/03/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude Lombardi is the greatest coach in NFL history. He’s like an american hero, and your gonna go and talk about fucking fatass McCarthy?
They ain’t shoring shit up. One LB and one QB aren’t gonna win you anything. I like it how people thought your receivers would shred us. James fucking Jones really, what like we haven’t beat Oakland like 20 times in a row.......
AZ is a better team. Rodgers>Palmer but its a team game and Cardinals>Packers.
Ill take Elway over Rodgers any day of the week. He a tleast carried his shitty teams all the way Super Bowl.
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Re: NFL 2015-2016 [Re: elax420]
#22471612 - 11/03/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No shit he's the greatest.. That's why it's unfair to try and compare him with anybody.
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Re: NFL 2015-2016 [Re: elax420]
#22471706 - 11/03/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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elax420 said:
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Source: 49ers were going to do this last week, but decided to wait so that Gabbert could debut against a weak Falcons defense at home.
Lol
The falcons official twitter replied with i shit you not
“Oh.”
Hahahahaha ATL is fucking weak
That really did make me laugh out loud. Fucking Gabbert though, holy shit, I don't think I can watch that.
I wonder what it's like being York or Baalke knowing the ENTIRE fan base hates your guts and wants you gone. Fuck those guys. I honestly don't even know who or what I'm rooting for anymore, just the fucking logo I guess.
Edited by Ran-D (11/03/15 03:46 PM)
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Re: NFL 2015-2016 [Re: Ran-D]
#22471733 - 11/03/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Blaine Gabbert 
Team is struggling, time to unleash Blaine
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Re: NFL 2015-2016 [Re: shLong]
#22471992 - 11/03/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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shLong said: I still believe they'll go further than any other team. (and would still put real $ on that belief)
We can make a bet in the playoffs if I find a matchup vs them I like.
Gabbert can't be worse than Kaepernick, I bet he at least recognizes wide open uncovered receivers. At lest give him a chance for a few games, 9ers season was destined to be a waste before the year even began we all knew it, except for you RanD. Too many players and talented staffers left the team and this is the product York has left the city with, please enjoy!
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zappaisgod said: You are focusing only on the GB offense. They also have a strong D. It just didn't show up yesterday.
After re-reading the last couple of pages this post still really stands out for it's absurdity.
In reality the Packers defense isn't even close to good. I don't see how people can say a defense that allows Phillip Rivers to pass for 503 yards and go 43 for 65 attempts is good. Allowing 500+ passing yards in a game is legendarily bad, Russel had his best performance of the year vs The packers D, Peyton Manning had his best performance of the year vs the Packers D, and so did Phillip Rivers. So what you have is a terrible defense that is somehow getting props for allowing multiple Quarterbacks of varying ability to post their best games and getting 503 passing yards posted up on you is not what happens to a good defense. You cannot omit all of the season best games Quarterbacks have had vs the Packers and claim they are good. Here is a link for you that lists the actual ratings and yards allowed by defense and The Packers are 23rd > http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2015&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1
Denver and Seattle currently are rated #1 and #2 in total defense while Green Bay is #23 and will only slide as they wear out during a long season.
As for the Panthers and Bengals post season viability who knows, so far they haven't been able to win much in the post season, or at all for Dalton.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/sort/totalPoints/position/defense
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Total Points Leaders RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G 1 Denver 1828 261.1 1203 171.9 625 89.3 112 16.0 2 Minnesota 2338 334.0 1605 229.3 733 104.7 122 17.4 3 St. Louis 2297 328.1 1610 230.0 687 98.1 125 17.9 4 Green Bay 2630 375.7 1759 251.3 871 124.4 130 18.6
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What's wrong with Matt Forte? I just looked at my fantasy roster and he is listed as doubtful this week. WTF????                 
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