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srarokz
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NSW ID request, pan cyan?
#22469093 - 11/02/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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* Habitat: growing in grass, possible manure which they were growing from but not confirmed for all of them. * Location: East coast NSW Australia * Gills:light brown to black depending on age * Stem: hollow stem which bruises darker near the base * Spore print color: black * Scent of the mushroom: smells of typical commercial mushrooms * Color that the mushroom bruises when damaged: dark I have split what I found into two groups based on color. A lighter group and a darker colored group, but they might just be varying ages of the same mushroom? both were found in exactly the same conditions. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- group 1, lighter colored


 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Group 2 is the darker colored mushrooms, if I had to guess I'd say these are active and the first group are not


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Edited by srarokz (11/03/15 12:59 AM)
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: NSW ID request, pan cyan? [Re: srarokz]
#22469164 - 11/03/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Check the spore print colors. My guess is that all of them are Panaeolus foenisecii.
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srarokz
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here are the spore prints, both appear black to the naked eye light colored group
 dark colored group
 with the stems bruising as they do on the dark group and not on the other group along with the black spore sprint would it be reasonable to eat the darker group? if they're all in fact Panaeolina foenisecii it won't poison me right? my reasoning is I found many actives last season and they looked exactly like the darker group, I also found fonisecii last year which looked more like the lighter group.
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canid
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Re: NSW ID request, pan cyan? [Re: srarokz]
#22469248 - 11/03/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The print in the upper portion of your last photo looks brown on my screen.
There is no real danger to eating Panaeolus foenisecii in any case, and your blueing collection are certainly not that species.
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srarokz
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Re: NSW ID request, pan cyan? [Re: canid]
#22469260 - 11/03/15 01:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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canid said: There is no real danger to eating Panaeolus foenisecii in any case, and your blueing collection are certainly not that species.
"certainly not that species", as in not foenisecii or certainly not an active species? I'm sorry I just can't quite interpret what you're saying
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Re: NSW ID request, pan cyan? [Re: srarokz]
#22469274 - 11/03/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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As in certainly not Pan. foenisecii. It's the only species mentioned in the sentence.
Panaeolus foenisecii does not bruise blue and taking the presence of blueing at face value this rules that species out entirely.
Of course it's possible the blueing isn't actually there, but you say it is, and it looks like it may be to me. Good lighting when you take indoor pictures would be helpful in general.
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