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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: eehoo]
    #22495919 - 11/08/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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To anyone who responds to me and wants me to actually take in what you have to say, don't start off a post with a laughing gif and tons of assumptions



Your statement was laughable.  You can ignore what others have to say on flimsy pretenses if that helps you hold on to your wacky ideas.  I don't really give a shit what you think or if you read what I say, my post was meant for the OP and to counter the nonsense you were spouting for the general public.   

There's an eastern philosophic tradition of treating semen as a vital life essence, and that ejaculation is spending your "ki," and will ultimately shorten your lifespan.  This is superstitious nonsense that is refuted by modern science, which shows that frequent ejaculation keeps the prostate healthy and regular orgasms lead to elevated mood, more happiness and less irritability.  As long as you're having healthy, loving sex with a partner that makes you happy, you should try to get laid and bust a nut every day. 

As far as the procreation thing goes, again, no.  We are hard-wired to want sex all the time, we're one of the few mammals where mating season is all year long.  There are already way too many people on earth and birth control should be far more prevalent than it is, religion and superstition touting ancient fertility rites is a big problem with our overpopulation and the subsequent environmental catastrophe we're headed for.  If anything, people should be beating off more and using birth control when they have sex unless they absolutely want a child or two, then they should get a tubaligation or vasectomy once they're done.  That's really the most ethical position. 

Becoming addicted to porn is certainly not a good thing, as is hooking up with random people or paying sex workers in a way that leaves you feeling empty and degraded.  But the very act of ejaculation is totally normal and healthy, in fact, if you go too long without it you're just going to come in your sleep and stain your sheets without even knowing it.  People make themselves miserable because religions work by shaming and making you feel guilty for your most natural impulses, it's easier to manipulate and brainwash miserable, repressed people than healthy happy and contented ones.  Sex makes me feel great.  I try to get it every day, if not twice a day on good days.  A couple times a week is a minimum.  :shrug:

Go ahead and jerk off or have sex dude, it's good for you. 
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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22495925 - 11/08/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

No it just means I'm not going on waste my time fighting on a website that you can't fight on.... Is this fun for you? I read your first Paragraph then quit, way too cunty for me to read


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: eehoo]
    #22496058 - 11/08/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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No it just means I'm not going on waste my time fighting on a website that you can't fight on.... Is this fun for you? I read your first Paragraph then quit, way too cunty for me to read



Ooh hoo, you really like to quit reading my posts half way through.  Afraid to learn something?  The rest of that post is actually full of facts and not really offensive at all.  :lol: 

Whatever man, you're the one fighting and taking the time to make posts saying how you're not reading my posts.  Do you make a regular habit of replying to posts you haven't read all the way through? 
:goodluckwiththat:

I'm just trying to help the OP figure his shit out as he seems really conflicted and uptight about sex and human relationships, fueling his guilt complex about ejaculation is, in my mind, irresponsible and harmful.  I'd like to see the guy get laid and learn how to connect to a human being in one of the most basic, primal and absolutely fundamental areas of the human experience.  Sex is a miracle and a gift from God or the universe or whatever you believe in.  There's no shame and no evil to it when it's backed up with love and understanding. 

Did you read that one, or quit half way again?  Chill out homie, you're getting bent over nothing.  Maybe you should relieve some of that tension you got built up in your loins.   
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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22496320 - 11/08/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: eehoo]
    #22497211 - 11/08/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

P.Zappatecorum:

I appreciate your scientific approach. Believe me, I understand. I grew up in a household of religion(christianity) and for the longest time I felt like I was the only sane person in a world of insane people. I ended up developing a strong appreciation for skepticism and a strong disdain for superstition.

So with that being said, I don't take this "semen retention" stuff lightly. Honestly, there's really no way for me to know for sure if the benefits are true without trying it for myself. One year of not cumming isn't going to ruin me, and honestly I feel pretty fantastic right now compared to when I jerked it everyday. Perhaps it doesn't work too well for some people, but this is a godsend for me so far.


And by the way. I ddn't text her back right away this morning and she just blew up my phone with calls and texts. We did set up another hangout next week but she keeps asking what I'm doing everyday and if I can hangout with her. I don't want to... I want to space out our hangouts more.

I don't know what the fuck is happening or what she sees in me, but when I texted her back, she started saying she wants to earn thousands of dollars so she can take me on a trip to China for a month and have fun together.

I'm not going to take advantage of her and use her. I'm going to have a talk with her and tell her that I'm not looking for a serious relationship but if she wants to have a bit of fun I'd be down. I'm concerned that she's so willing to throw herself at me after meeting me less than a week ago.




Oh, and also, this never happened to me before. I've never had a decent looking girl throw herself at me like this before, and I attribute it at least partly to keeping my "sexual energy", because i've also never refrained from masturbating for so long before either.


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: evenbreak]
    #22497250 - 11/08/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The reason I said always beat off first is threefold:

- You need to release some goddamn sexual tension
- You keep saying you havent busted in like 21 days or something... why are you torturing yourself?
- Thirdly and most important - If you DO have any kind of sexual interaction with her... you are gonna blow your load at the slightest sign of her even touching you. Stick the tip in a little bit and kaboom? How embarrassing.

Always relieve the balls first. Then you wont be so goddamn wound up and blow a load at the passing wind.
It's good advice.


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: Shroomism]
    #22497276 - 11/08/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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The reason I said always beat off first is threefold:

- You need to release some goddamn sexual tension
- You keep saying you havent busted in like 21 days or something... why are you torturing yourself?
- Thirdly and most important - If you DO have any kind of sexual interaction with her... you are gonna blow your load at the slightest sign of her even touching you. Stick the tip in a little bit and kaboom? How embarrassing.

Always relieve the balls first. Then you wont be so goddamn wound up and blow a load at the passing wind.
It's good advice.




Why am I torturing myself? Because it doesn't feel like torture anymore. I feel more at peace with lust and horniness. I feel like I no longer need to chase after sex.


Here is an excert from a poster from another forum on this topic:

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I couldn't be bothered typing it out again so here is my rant from another thread...

I recomend stopping Ejaculation full stop. It is empty and depleting.
Learn a bunch of circulation/transmutation and sublimation exercises.

And when the energy builds up which it will, get a life.

Find things to put that energy into. do shaking practices, go dancing, make love for 5 hours without ejaculating, work on your dream whatever...

You will slowly also become 'horny tolerant', which means you will become comfortable and even start to enjoy the high level of energy you are carrying around. It changes the nervous system over time, and will begin to naturally {even without meditation} produce the higher states of consciousness and bliss. Your mind will become clear and stable. And you wont get sick nearly as often...

The Danger here is ego inflation. people will be very attracted to you, and you tend to become more persuasive, than your flat post ejaculation self. Keep to honor and Integrity as the rule.

How does it work?
I'll describe the Tantric angle in a simple way.
The 'agitation' of built up sexual energy, that most mundane men just want to relieve them selves of, or 'get it out' so to speak, is actually energy stimulating your nerves and chakra's. It first stimulates the base chakra, and the sexuality of the base chakra is procreation, ie ejaculatory sex. Keeps the human race what Tantra calls Pashu's or herd like, as nearly all men give in to this base chakra agitation as soon as they feel it, if not faster... lol. They are depleted flat beings.

If a sincere practitioner resists this for longer, the energy is filling them up slowly, the stimulation effect the second chakra, which brings emotions, a more active dream life, a greater chance of wet dreams, and produces pleasurable and sensual feelings in the pelvic cradle. One will feel very sensuously aroused here. Dont Ejaculate!

Next it reaches manipur or third chakra, fire! Here the mind becomes firm and stable, and concentration goes through the roof. Use it for your life, yes, but make sure spiritual aspirations are number one, because that is the reason to bother with any of this in the first place.

Next comes the heart. Yum. It just gets better and better from here on up. Heart opening, Love! Amazing. Having some good heart practice for here is very good, like metta meditation or any love sending/radiating practice. Master Choi kok Sui's twin heart meditation is particularly good if i remember rightly...

Thats all I am going to say on the progression as its better to go in open and unsuspecting to the higher center's... lol


Any questions?





http://thedaobums.com/topic/23837-the-power-of-sexual-retention-and-its-effects-on-vitality/


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: evenbreak]
    #22497286 - 11/08/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I know all about the tantras. Whatever floats your boat..
but you said it yourself.. You had a raging hardon the whole time you were with her.. just imagine if she touched you.. lol
When you whack off you lose your insatiable desire for sex temporarily. That's why. It's useful.
Plus you are torturing yourself. You don't do it yourself, your body will do it for you.. when you sleep.


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: Shroomism]
    #22497311 - 11/08/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think if we have sex, I don't plan on cumming.


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: evenbreak]
    #22497315 - 11/08/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

good luck with that when you haven't busted in like a month, you'll prob cum in 10 seconds


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: Shroomism]
    #22497317 - 11/08/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

lol. that's certainly a possibility, but let's hope it doesn't turn out that way :smile:


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: evenbreak]
    #22497412 - 11/08/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ask her to netflix and chill.

Last girl asked me that and i was in the shower than out the door in 5 minutes. Needless to say the tv never got turned on. I think its a pretty universal phrase of "lets fuck"


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: Enjoywho]
    #22497914 - 11/08/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Lol dude!  I do some tai chi and yoga so don't me wrong, I know all about the chakras and ki and all that jazz.  Those concepts can be helpful in terms of visualization and work on a metaphoric level, but they are garbage when it comes to actually working IRL and having any basis in reality.  When I meditate, I focus on my chakras and move my ki around, but I know that ki is just a mental construct that focuses my attention on my body and increases self awareness  instead of some magic ectoplasm that keeps me alive and the chakras are parts of my mind that help me with being mindful of every aspect of my body rather than glowing nodes of energy that exist in the spiritual realm. 

That shit about the retention giving you energy and power is all in your head dude, you're feeling more confident because you have some control over something that used to rule you, and that self control and the boost in self confidence that it gives you is what's giving you that magic power and making you feel good.  You need to realize that you have that power in you all the time regardless of whether you choke the chicken and that all that self control comes from your mind and your will, not a teaspoon of prostate fluid and a couple million microscopic tadpoles you've been saving up for weeks.  That shit is just plain bad for your balls.  You might have had a problem with over-masturbation, and that surely isn't good for you, but cleaning the pipes a couple times a week is healthy and normal man.  You've shown yourself you have the power to not let wanking rule your life, now show yourself that you can control when you wank and do it in a responsible, healthful manner.   

If you decide to bang this girl, for the love of God, jerk off the day before just to clear the pipes.  You will probably still suffer premature ejaculation with the way you've been treating your jimmy, but at least if you jerk off the night before you won't spurt your pants the second she touches it, if you spank it the night before you might actually make it inside and give her 2 minutes of pleasure.  :lol: 

You're a funny dude.  I wish you the best, though I can't quite grasp what's going on in that noggin of yours. 
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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22497929 - 11/08/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

why would u just come in and take all his power away like that?  he had a good thing going and now you just took it all away from him, you knew it was all in his head and now you took it out of his head :feelingblue:


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22497979 - 11/08/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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why would u just come in and take all his power away like that?  he had a good thing going and now you just took it all away from him, you knew it was all in his head and now you took it out of his head :feelingblue:



Didn't think about it that way. 
::hahthatsrich:
The power is still there.  It was always there, I just removed the training wheels and let him see where it came from. 
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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22498336 - 11/08/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I hear what you're saying, but I don't totally buy that we can know 100% that the benefits of semen retention is purely placebo.

What about those guys who, after prolonged semen retention while still having sex regularly, are able to have mind blowing full body orgasms that last for up to an hour? And then they go around their daily life basically feeling like they're having 50% of an orgasm, except the orgasm is detached from sexual urges and more of a yearning to live life.

To me, the fact that something like that is possible tells me there's more to semen retention, as well as chakras and qi, than the materialistic explanation.


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: evenbreak]
    #22498350 - 11/08/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nobody wants an orgasm that lasts an hour. Nobody. And that's crazy talk.


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: Shroomism]
    #22498428 - 11/08/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Why would you want to retain yoursemen? I dont get it .if i want to jerk off i jerk off. And always rub the quickie out before meeting with a pretty lady. Ya i want to be that weirdo who cant hang out with a pretty girl and not be rock hard the entire time. :rolleyes: :rofl:


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: Shroomism]
    #22498744 - 11/09/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Nobody wants an orgasm that lasts an hour. Nobody. And that's crazy talk.



:bathtub40lol:
If I want a 12 hour full body orgasm I'll take some mescaline.  If I want to fuck a chick for hours then bust the best nut ever, I'll take some MDMA.

I'm not saying that shit can't be done without drugs, but it has nothing to do with semen retention and is a mind over matter thing.  The monks up in the mountains can do some crazy shit, but it isn't magic, it's just the power of meditation.  You should focus less on these weird ejaculation experiments and more on general mindfulness, meditation etc.  Join a buddhist sangha or some other meditation group, the quakers can be chill, there's probably even atheist meditation groups if you live in a big city.  Take some tai chi/qigong, gongfu, yoga or karate and just chill. the. fuck. out.     

I don't know where you're getting this blue ball yourself till you come all day insanity, but it can't possibly be good for you.  You do know that holding your come in too long makes your sperm all unhealthy and dead, right?  Ejaculating regularly but not excessively keeps a healthy supply of spermatazoa going.  We were evolved to get pussy every day, we can make enough sperm for about three loads a day before it starts to deplete, you're really doing something strange and masochistic here.   

You might be able to increase orgasm to an excrutiatingly amazing release by months and months of self mortification, and if that floats your boat then be my guess dude, but I'd rather just come more often and less intensely.  :lol:

If this shit makes you happy man, then really, go for it, but this is one of the weirdest conversations I've ever had and I've done shit tons of psychedelics.  You are a strange little bird.   


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Re: tell me how to hang out with this massage parlor girl [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22499839 - 11/09/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ya i still don't get it either. :shrug:


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