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Someone explain me the "higher/lower vibrations"
    #22467563 - 11/02/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

There's too much new age bs floating around about the subject, was hoping someone can give me insight about this...

During trips and a few spiritual sober states I have always felt "vibrations". It seems during day to day consciousness I have "low vibrations" which mean very basic, materialistic way of being.

During trips I feel like my spirit is vibrating faster and faster with a whistle/pinging in my ears. They seem to be the same thing, rising as the trip starts to get more intense.  The faster I vibrate the more relaxed and amazing I feel. The change in this innate vibration seems to lift my consciousness to a new operating level.

But what is it?


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Re: Someone explain me the "higher/lower vibrations" [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #22468081 - 11/02/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

what i know about them is well - rudimentary. :sun: hehe. .

everything is vibrating, vibrational energy - quanta at the basic level.. as quantum reality is there with everything, over time i learned we have quantum brains... there are so many possibilities - we're only glimpsing them... also - oneness... or emptiness, as you wrote beautifully on..

there are from several traditions mantras, which are said to be spiritual vibration.. the medicine buddha mantra - ancient sanskrit mantras - hindu mantras, etc... how much of it is simply self-faith, i could not say..

but certainly, there are many profound effects from these - medicine buddha mantra ( well many, from hinduism too, and well, lots of places and so forth ) is said to be very healing.. remove tons of karmic obstacles, and bring tons of merit -- even saying it once, or hearing it - or seeing it or an image of it..

i mean, there are tons of thousands -- leery, beautiful and brilliant, wrote a couplet times about his experience with them... having done them a lot -- deff too.. writes about it -- and it can definitely bring bliss... there are various aspects to it...


so -healing or vibrational energy -- is very valuable... and it does affect all kinds of things... what are the limits?  who knows, etc -- there's kind of unlimited --


you mention vibrating faster -- this is certainly interesting... i for instance think faster than most, and type faster than many -- yet also can meditate for long periods of time-- i'm glad to have made these transformations, and look forward to continuing upwards on the heavenward journey of light --  where is the next step, i will have to discover or what not. . . .


it's so wonderful -- to have faith and love & strength & confidence yet no illusions of higher or lower etc, and i'm just me -- and rambling again, hehe. . .


but -- everything is of the same nature... so -- a period on the page... that is a vibration - that's light - that's energy and info. . . even in the timing of a post, word -- or action, or anything -- down to the millisecond; contains so much information. .. the placing of every period -- etc... all of it is part of such a interesting information flow, which is also vibration for sure...


to learn and grow without ever falling back -- in terms of spiritual growth, which i would basicalyl define as evolution into love and spirit, correlating with attaining of wisdom, peace, bliss, and perfecting of various skills and what not -- as well as, of course, being able to live out in the desert if one needed to -- or all kinds of things like that -- which are sort of speculations from me, yet also i feel fairly well real... i like exploring these things, and growing in that direction..


ah - was just gonna say -- of course, self-faith is so important - yet, it's almost supremely important... like the main thing of anything... to grow without falling ( to grow spiritually that is... ) which isn't to do with material expansion... and doesn't have anything to do with the egoic sense of the term...

because it doesn't mean expanding into others' domains or anything -- simply expanding into the spiritual realm...  in other words or most basic -- most simply -- all this resting on the point that we all can be happy -- in opposition to the view that one should make others unhappy etc... -- and, enlightenment, how it allows others the space to be who they wish -- without projecting or rejecting, etc.

as for - material , vibration -- or goodness / love / higher vibrations etc...


my basic understanding or explanation for that is -- you have it, what you described is accurate by my view. . .

there's like a material ignorance sort of -- that covers up the spiritual brilliance -- and.. it's ego, pretty much -- or, just material energy... and -- in various ways this manifests...

and - the higher spiritual vibration of love -- is very different because it's all based in health -- healing energy, or love - energy, etc... or 'the energy of mindfulness,' the energy of love --


and -- to begin selfishly is alright -- you know, to simply wish to be free of pain for good -- this is a good impulse! :sun: and quite attainable... in fact -- it's the logical one to follow..  the basic beginning step for sure -- and, there is selfless-ness ... as a virtue, considered by quite a few...

but - that's a grid as well -- and as i'm guessing you know -- limiting views or beliefs are not static or the whole truth, etc.


okay that's all i got for now :sun:


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Re: Someone explain me the "higher/lower vibrations" [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #22468115 - 11/02/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I tend to approach my personal experiences that are like that like a Rorschach test.  I imagine what it might mean, explore the possibilities, and try to keep a healthy amount of skepticism.  It's been a process of self discovery.

That said, my personal experiences most closely line up with what I read of kundalini though I'm not a practitioner in the traditional sense.  The physical sensations I get are more focused generally.  But body sensations that could be similar to what you are describing are described on the wikipedia page.


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Re: Someone explain me the "higher/lower vibrations" [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22468120 - 11/02/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Someone explain me the "higher/lower vibrations" [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22468126 - 11/02/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Oh yeah, the vibrations thing! That's just a bunch of hippy gibberish. Silly right?! C ya.


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Re: Someone explain me the "higher/lower vibrations" [Re: Matt87] * 1
    #22471679 - 11/03/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I like what Once In A Liftime said. Everything is energy. It is just the way we perceive it which determines its form. For example, matter is a form of very dense energy. We could say matter has a low vibration. Light on the other hand is much less dense. We could say it has a high vibration.

But this is just considering the physical energy. If everything is ultimately one, then everything is ultimately the same energy, which includes non-physical things such as thoughts. All thoughts are made up of energy of varying vibrations. Certain thoughts such as love, selflessness, compassion etc are of a high vibration. Thoughts such as anger, depression, fear have a low vibration. It's easy to say it's hippy nonsense, but just consider how you feel when you experience these thoughts. Personally when I am in escstactic bliss, I physically feel light. I feel high. When I'm sad or angry, my body feels heavy and dense. I feel low.

It's important to understand that in the world of energy, like attracts like. So if you are vibrating high, you will attract people and situations that are vibrating on the same level. If you are in a low vibration, you will attract difficult and uncomfortable people and experiences. The universe is a reflection of your energy. Mushrooms and other drugs can temporarily raise your vibration. People experience ego-loss so easily on mushrooms because of this. Reaching unitiy and oneness with God/source/the universe is just about as high as you can get. It's a common experience with mushrooms, but it is also possible through meditation, it's just harder to achieve as you have to practice raising your vibration to that level yourself, without assistance. With enough training it's possible to be in a high vibrational state and have access to other levels of consciousness all of the time, all by yourself :smile:


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Re: Someone explain me the "higher/lower vibrations" [Re: PocketLady]
    #22474473 - 11/04/15 04:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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PocketLady said:
I like what Once In A Liftime said. Everything is energy. It is just the way we perceive it which determines its form. For example, matter is a form of very dense energy. We could say matter has a low vibration. Light on the other hand is much less dense. We could say it has a high vibration.

But this is just considering the physical energy. If everything is ultimately one, then everything is ultimately the same energy, which includes non-physical things such as thoughts. All thoughts are made up of energy of varying vibrations. Certain thoughts such as love, selflessness, compassion etc are of a high vibration. Thoughts such as anger, depression, fear have a low vibration. It's easy to say it's hippy nonsense, but just consider how you feel when you experience these thoughts. Personally when I am in escstactic bliss, I physically feel light. I feel high. When I'm sad or angry, my body feels heavy and dense. I feel low.

It's important to understand that in the world of energy, like attracts like. So if you are vibrating high, you will attract people and situations that are vibrating on the same level. If you are in a low vibration, you will attract difficult and uncomfortable people and experiences. The universe is a reflection of your energy. Mushrooms and other drugs can temporarily raise your vibration. People experience ego-loss so easily on mushrooms because of this. Reaching unitiy and oneness with God/source/the universe is just about as high as you can get. It's a common experience with mushrooms, but it is also possible through meditation, it's just harder to achieve as you have to practice raising your vibration to that level yourself, without assistance. With enough training it's possible to be in a high vibrational state and have access to other levels of consciousness all of the time, all by yourself :smile:





This is the explanation I was looking for
:jedi:



The only people I know who talk about "raising their vibrations" are kind of miserable people who pretend to be happy and spiritual, meaning they want others to think they are great but inside they have a host of unfaced issues. It shines through and its kind of sad/uncomfortable to be around them. Its like they do everything to present a positive image to others, meanwhile suppressing their inner turmoil.


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Re: Someone explain me the "higher/lower vibrations" [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #22474844 - 11/04/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Have you looked at the wheel of becoming?

I think there's a lot to be said for the middle path.  Often when I feel ontop of the world I succumb to pride.

If high and low vibrations are a pendulum I'd prefer a medium vibration rather than swinging back and forth :wink:


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Re: Someone explain me the "higher/lower vibrations" [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #22475008 - 11/04/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Bridgeburner said:
There's too much new age bs floating around about the subject, was hoping someone can give me insight about this...

During trips and a few spiritual sober states I have always felt "vibrations". It seems during day to day consciousness I have "low vibrations" which mean very basic, materialistic way of being.

During trips I feel like my spirit is vibrating faster and faster with a whistle/pinging in my ears. They seem to be the same thing, rising as the trip starts to get more intense.  The faster I vibrate the more relaxed and amazing I feel. The change in this innate vibration seems to lift my consciousness to a new operating level.

But what is it?




It is the soul separating from the body, to go exploring in other dimensions.



Feel a vibrating sensation in your body. As you relax further, you should become more aware of what's happening inside your mind and body than anything happening in the room around you. Try to feel the vibration of your body, coming from both the larger pulse of your blood and breath to the individual movements of your cells. You may think you hear sounds like a tornado/wind. The urge to move here will be tremendous, especially if it's your first time. Just relax deeper and deeper until the sounds passes, but avoid falling asleep.  http://www.wikihow.com/Have-an-Out-of-Body-Experience


There has been a lot of confusion about Astral Projection, so I figured I’d explain what it is and how to do it. Dreaming, is an unconscious astral projection. When you sleep, your soul leaves your body. It literally leaves our 3D physical reality. This is caused by your pineal gland (the most important part of your brain) releasing Dimethyltryptamine aka DMT. DMT is what propels your soul out of body when you sleep, and when you’re about to die or have a ‘near death experience’. The thing is, you do not have control over what your soul does when it leaves your body while you sleep… Your subconscious controls it. The difference between normal sleep and astral projection is, when you astral project, you are able to consciously control your soul, and where it goes. Astral projection is basically just Conscious Sleep. When you start to fall asleep, but wake up right before it happens, you can literally feel your soul coming back into body. That is why you sometimes feel like you’re falling. The ‘head exploding sensation’ (as some people describe it), is the first step to starting an astral projection. That is one of the signs you know that you’re doing it right. You feel pressure in your brain, and your body starts to tingle. Then, your whole body goes limp, and if you can control it, your soul will leave your body shortly after.
http://themindunleashed.org/2013/06/10-effective-techniques-to-experiencing.html


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Re: Someone explain me the "higher/lower vibrations" [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #22475093 - 11/04/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you!

I am already reading Monroe's "Journeys Out of the Body" book and its amazing!




I could never get into OOBE without mushrooms though. Seems some just have the experience spontaneously.


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Re: Someone explain me the "higher/lower vibrations" [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #22475127 - 11/04/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Bridgeburner said:
Quote:

PocketLady said:
I like what Once In A Liftime said. Everything is energy. It is just the way we perceive it which determines its form. For example, matter is a form of very dense energy. We could say matter has a low vibration. Light on the other hand is much less dense. We could say it has a high vibration.

But this is just considering the physical energy. If everything is ultimately one, then everything is ultimately the same energy, which includes non-physical things such as thoughts. All thoughts are made up of energy of varying vibrations. Certain thoughts such as love, selflessness, compassion etc are of a high vibration. Thoughts such as anger, depression, fear have a low vibration. It's easy to say it's hippy nonsense, but just consider how you feel when you experience these thoughts. Personally when I am in escstactic bliss, I physically feel light. I feel high. When I'm sad or angry, my body feels heavy and dense. I feel low.

It's important to understand that in the world of energy, like attracts like. So if you are vibrating high, you will attract people and situations that are vibrating on the same level. If you are in a low vibration, you will attract difficult and uncomfortable people and experiences. The universe is a reflection of your energy. Mushrooms and other drugs can temporarily raise your vibration. People experience ego-loss so easily on mushrooms because of this. Reaching unitiy and oneness with God/source/the universe is just about as high as you can get. It's a common experience with mushrooms, but it is also possible through meditation, it's just harder to achieve as you have to practice raising your vibration to that level yourself, without assistance. With enough training it's possible to be in a high vibrational state and have access to other levels of consciousness all of the time, all by yourself :smile:





This is the explanation I was looking for
:jedi:



The only people I know who talk about "raising their vibrations" are kind of miserable people who pretend to be happy and spiritual, meaning they want others to think they are great but inside they have a host of unfaced issues. It shines through and its kind of sad/uncomfortable to be around them. Its like they do everything to present a positive image to others, meanwhile suppressing their inner turmoil.




I think you are rightly seeing straight through New Age BS. Good! A great book you may be interested which exposes all of that in real depth is called Return of the Dark/Light Mother or New Age Armageddon? by Monica Sjoo

The New Age ideas derive from the ancient dualism between 'spirit' and 'matter' where it was believed spirit descends into matter and becomes trapped, and thus the new Age goes on about 'raising vibrations' so as to gain 'ascension'

Like all supposed opposites, they are not diametrically opposed and/or in battle but rather dynamic processes. Thus low vibrations are dynamically related to high vibratory states

I have been composing a blog where I am going on about 'chaos' and how in science 'chaos' is said to be at VERY higher temperatures when there are no atoms, and as the temperature cools you begin getting more forms like molecules, and then liquid and so on etc. I was playing with wondering how that related to the mythological meaning of 'chaos'
For example, in patriarchal thinking 'chaos' = bad, and it is all about 'order' and 'stability' and banning psychedelics which could be argued inspire chaos--states whereby nothing is stable. Everything is in energetic flusx

What is a racist? Someone who has become rigid in his thinking? and thus creates 'forms' which are stable images in his mind which divide him from a more connective sense with others who are different from him?
If he were to take psychedelics will this rigid thinking be shaken up in a vibratory way and then when he comes down maybe the forms and images will be more connective and healthy


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Re: Someone explain me the "higher/lower vibrations" [Re: zzripz]
    #22492836 - 11/07/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

you might feel that consciousness creates a function for itself..which is the self density of matter..or retention of consciousness..and high and low vibrations are about the frequency of consciousness.. so it is within the body where energy is a vibration..which is a modus or modicum of energy at a given state..so the forth of the matter IS the force so to speak..of the Jedis..which means you can tap into the frequencies of matter and nature..in the terminal of life itself..which is more or less limbo..meaning you can lend weight but never really break matter like the super heros of marvel..

Or can you?


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Re: Someone explain me the [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #22554110 - 11/21/15 03:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Everything breaks down into a vibration or energy. A word is spoken, a flute is played, a drum is beat, a electrical current is sent, these are all vibrations. A high vibrational energy is connected with the body, mind and spirit. It is light, uplifting, clear. You feel this kind of energy when you laugh at a joke, when you feel empathy from the heart, when you have a spiritual dream.


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