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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: morrowasted] 1
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: ballsalsa]
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What do y'all think? Legit?
Pretty much all of them have responded already, obviously, saying "NO WAY BRO I AM NOT IN THE KKK"
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: morrowasted] 1
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Isn't every Republican affiliated with the KKK?
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
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They named the mayor of my town who is like a Mexican lady. I wouldn't trust the list.
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
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Arctic W. Fox said: Isn't every Republican affiliated with the KKK?
No. Actually the KKK was more associated with Democrats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Ku_Klux_Klan
Y'all need to learn some fucking history. It was the Democrats that were the party of slavery and the Republicans who ended it. Look at the voting roster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#By_party
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By party[edit] The original House version:[20]
Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%) Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%) Cloture in the Senate:[21]
Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%) Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%) The Senate version:[20]
Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%) Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%) The Senate version, voted on by the House:[20]
Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%) Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)
Get your head out of the media's ass.
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: zappaisgod]
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Obviously times have changed, if the document is true.
Of course, it can be argued that the differences between the parties are mostly cosmetic.
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: zappaisgod] 2
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zappaisgod said:
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Arctic W. Fox said: Isn't every Republican affiliated with the KKK?
No. Actually the KKK was more associated with Democrats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Ku_Klux_Klan
Y'all need to learn some fucking history. It was the Democrats that were the party of slavery and the Republicans who ended it. Look at the voting roster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#By_party
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By party[edit] The original House version:[20]
Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%) Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%) Cloture in the Senate:[21]
Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%) Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%) The Senate version:[20]
Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%) Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%) The Senate version, voted on by the House:[20]
Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%) Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)
Get your head out of the media's ass.
The Democrats were also the conservatives and the Republicans were the liberals back then. Important point you're leaving out there Zap.
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: Cj-B] 1
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Copy pasted from my comments on the Facebook post I initially saw this on. Quote:
I'm skeptical. The modern day KKK isn't remotely cohesive or powerful, and many groups are just occasional get-togethers in somebody's trailer home to bitch and moan about blacks and the Jews. The membership is tiny, incredibly impoverished and old...pretty much every documentary I've ever seen about them has shown this to be the case. It's hard to believe that a senior congressmen (even if they absolutely loathed black people) would ever be involved with those clowns. Plus googling some of these names...the mayor of Knoxville is a Democratic Hispanic woman. Another is openly gay. Another has mixed race family members, is Catholic, and works with immigrants organizing migrant worker unions. Hardly the kinds of people that would associate with a bunch of backwards racist morons stuck in the 1920s.
Doesn't help that not a single piece of information provided in this leak is verifiable. We don't know who or where it came from so it's quite likely that the poster added a bunch of random names and hoped internet crusaders would fall for it (which they did). Combine that with Anonymous' history of fingering the wrong guy (Ferguson anyone?) and cloaking it behind a the self-righteous 'We're the heroes" spiel (despite what they're doing being an invasion of privacy of the highest order behind convenient online anonymity) and you've got a recipe for nearly 100% pure bullshit. .
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: Cj-B] 1
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Yeah, Zap! Get your head out of history's ass. It's 2015, son.
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: Cj-B]
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Cj-B said: Copy pasted from my comments on the Facebook post I initially saw this on. Quote:
I'm skeptical. The modern day KKK isn't remotely cohesive or powerful, and many groups are just occasional get-togethers in somebody's trailer home to bitch and moan about blacks and the Jews. The membership is tiny, incredibly impoverished and old...pretty much every documentary I've ever seen about them has shown this to be the case. It's hard to believe that a senior congressmen (even if they absolutely loathed black people) would ever be involved with those clowns. Plus googling some of these names...the mayor of Knoxville is a Democratic Hispanic woman. Another is openly gay. Another has mixed race family members, is Catholic, and works with immigrants organizing migrant worker unions. Hardly the kinds of people that would associate with a bunch of backwards racist morons stuck in the 1920s.
Doesn't help that not a single piece of information provided in this leak is verifiable. We don't know who or where it came from so it's quite likely that the poster added a bunch of random names and hoped internet crusaders would fall for it (which they did). Combine that with Anonymous' history of fingering the wrong guy (Ferguson anyone?) and cloaking it behind a the self-righteous 'We're the heroes" spiel (despite what they're doing being an invasion of privacy of the highest order behind convenient online anonymity) and you've got a recipe for nearly 100% pure bullshit. .
Yeah, I remain quite skeptical
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said: What do y'all think? Legit?
Pretty much all of them have responded already, obviously, saying "NO WAY BRO I AM NOT IN THE KKK"
I know Johnny Isakson is not a member of the klan, I was all over that bastard's house doing work. unless maybe that fucker has a bust a Shakespeare that the head flops back on and you push a red button to open the book case and slide down a pole to get to his klancave
I bet this is anonymous trying to get their hands on his klan robes now
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: Cj-B]
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Cj-B said:
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zappaisgod said:
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Arctic W. Fox said: Isn't every Republican affiliated with the KKK?
No. Actually the KKK was more associated with Democrats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Ku_Klux_Klan
Y'all need to learn some fucking history. It was the Democrats that were the party of slavery and the Republicans who ended it. Look at the voting roster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#By_party
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By party[edit] The original House version:[20]
Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%) Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%) Cloture in the Senate:[21]
Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%) Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%) The Senate version:[20]
Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%) Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%) The Senate version, voted on by the House:[20]
Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%) Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)
Get your head out of the media's ass.
The Democrats were also the conservatives and the Republicans were the liberals back then. Important point you're leaving out there Zap.
sorry brosephine, that whole "well they just suddenly switched sides as soon as the civil rights act was passed" horse shit doesnt play out, the democrats are still the party of slavery and oppression, if you dont believe me, name one single social program that the democrats have pushed that has brought black people out of poverty
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Well, you can't possibly deny that they did indeed switch platforms around the turn of the 20th century. The KKK is historically anti-semetic, anti-catholic, anti-gay, and highly conservative...so ideologically they fall far more in line with the modern right wing Republican Party/19th century Democratic Party. Your argument falls kind of flat when it's "THE DEMOCRAT PARTYS PROGRAMS ALL FAILED" when the Republican Party's programs for helping the poor (what are those btw?) have produced even less results, if any at all.
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: Cj-B] 2
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Name one single social program that the democrats Republicans have pushed that has brought black any people out of poverty.
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: morrowasted]
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
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Arctic W. Fox said: Isn't every Republican affiliated with the KKK?
This is a form of prejudice in itself. I'm certainly not going to claim that these Senators are models of tolerance, but to so quickly accept that they are part of the freakin' Klan, you have to really hate them on a basic, human level.
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: joe666] 1
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I don't particularly like Anonymous, and I'd definitely want to see their sources if indeed this ISN'T a load of shit (HIGHLY doubtful), but the sad part is that, if true, this would surprise no one. It really wouldn't at all shock me if a high ranking US politician wound up being part of a hate-group.
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: Cj-B]
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Cj-B said: Well, you can't possibly deny that they did indeed switch platforms around the turn of the 20th century. The KKK is historically anti-semetic, anti-catholic, anti-gay, and highly conservative...so ideologically they fall far more in line with the modern right wing Republican Party/19th century Democratic Party. Your argument falls kind of flat when it's "THE DEMOCRAT PARTYS PROGRAMS ALL FAILED" when the Republican Party's programs for helping the poor (what are those btw?) have produced even less results, if any at all.
no, you're just believe the horse shit that the media and libtard politicians are telling you, the republicans introduced the JTPA, in roder to get a welfare check or food stamps you had to actively look for work, the employer was given a tax incentive to hire and train you, those tax incentives actually benefited employers because it allowed for more growth which allowed for more hiring, it was this start that brought the country out of a recession, the same momentum that clinton gets credit for but was in effect more than 10 years earlier, kinda like obama gets credit for the obamaphone but it came about during the reagan era with land lines and then went to cell service under bush junior
once more, tell us all about the programs that the democrats started that pulled people out of poverty, clearly you cant name one because there hasnt been any
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Considering that law you cited was made more than a decade before I was born and was repealed when I was still in diapers for being inefficient and not overly successful according to wikipedia, Quote:
he stated goal of the JTPA is to target an economically disadvantaged population for job training assistance. The funding allocation for the JTPA is determined using a formula that is outlined in Title II. One-third of the funding is allotted based on the relative number of unemployed individuals living in areas of substantial unemployment, one-third is based on the relative excess number of the unemployed, and one-third is based on the relative number of economically disadvantaged individuals. A final stipulation of JTPA is that no state is allowed to receive below a minimum of one quarter of one percent of the total allotment. The money is further divided within the state based on the same criteria. (8) Inconsistencies are likely due to political variables that influenced the formula at the time these policies were developed. These variables include the legislative power of a state’s own representatives, a state’s ability to influence voters of legislators in other states and executive branch interests. The results of the study conducted by Svorny clearly demonstrate the importance of a state’s political power in influencing the votes of representatives (8). Research has shown that there is an inconsistency between the number of economically disadvantaged in the United States and the number of individuals who actually receive resources and that the number varies across the United States. Concerns were initially raised in 1985, which caused the United States Department of Labor to commission a research study in July 1985 to explore the problems with the current formula. The study further showed that the main issues existed with regards to distributional equity, funding stability, data quality and formula simplicity. When investigating the distribution of funding, researchers found that certain regions, such as the upper Midwest, were over funded while other regions, such as the South, were underfunded (7). Studies have tried to estimate the impact of the JTPA over the years. The National JPTA study was designed to measure the impact of incremental services provided by the JTPA over time. The study commissioned by the National Department of Labor investigated 21,000 people within 16 centers around the country in 1986. This research found modest positive impacts on adult women as well as adult women, but did cite inconsistencies with regards to out-of-school youths. Welfare mothers appeared to receive the largest impact as a result of the program. In addition, JTPA increased the proportion of dropouts who eventually received a high school credential but only a fraction of the target group members were high school dropouts (1). The National JTPA Study has been criticized for its research design and techniques, however. The biggest issue is that the process through which the sites were selected was not a random one. The sites do resemble the national system in some ways, such as labor market conditions and JTPA project performance. In addition, the samples of individuals in the study were similar regarding age, work experience and ethnicity to those served nationally by the JTPA. The main flaw in the research is that there is no large, central city and that sites serving small numbers of people were not included; the sites which were included did not provide as much on-the-job training than most of the national sites (4). One criticism of the JTPA is summarized in a 1991 meeting of the Employment and Housing Subcommittee of the Committee on Government Operations focused on race and sex discrimination. Congressman Lantos cited evidence of differential patterns of service and job placement by race. The 1988 Chicago Urban League report stated that African Americans were shown to consistently receive lower job placements and wages. In addition, as stated in the 1991 Employment and Housing Subcommittee meeting, a 1988 Women’s Action Alliance report states that the JTPA is ineffective with regards to moving women out of poverty and that occupational segregation is prevalent as evidenced by the fact that the majority of women received jobs in clerical and sales and service rather than other areas (6). Further criticisms of the JTPA stem from the argument that individuals can take advantage of the system due to the way that it is set up. Cragg claims that measures in the Job Training Partnership Act lead to problems of “moral hazard” which stem from the use of performance incentives in government programs. The Job Training Partnership Act offers a “pay-for-performance system” that focuses on a participant’s earnings and a reduction on welfare dependency. Cragg claims that participants may enroll who are capable of high post-training earnings without any actual training. Therefore, some participants are reaping the benefits of the incentives program without an actual need for the government resources (3). In 1993, the Labor Department released a study that showed that in a study of low-income male out-of-school youth, males in the JTPA program actually had 10 percent lower earnings than males from a similar demographic who never participated in the program. Prior to the study’s release, the Labor Department’s inspector general stated that young trainees were twice as likely to rely on food stamps after JTPA involvement due to the fact that the training showed the individuals how to apply for food stamps (2).
no wonder I haven't heard of it. I'm still confused as to what your point was though. I NEVER said anything about the success of democratic/republican policies before you brought it into the conversation as total non-sequitur. I was merely adding some pretty important context to Zappa's remark about Republicans ending slavery.
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Edited by Cj-B (11/02/15 10:43 PM)
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Re: Anonymous leaks supposed names of US Senators and Mayors affiliated with KKK [Re: Cj-B]
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