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Dr. Delban
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psychotria elata OR psychotria viridis for simple DMT extraction ??
#22466897 - 11/02/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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My cacti supplier from Peru offered me psychotria elata and psychotria viridis. I asked for mimosa hostilis but it is out of stock.
Whick one of these two should I go for ?
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modern.shaman
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Re: psychotria elata OR psychotria viridis for simple DMT extraction ?? [Re: Dr. Delban]
#22467932 - 11/02/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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psychotria viridis
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grownright
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Re: psychotria elata OR psychotria viridis for simple DMT extraction ?? [Re: modern.shaman]
#22468920 - 11/02/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dont think Elata actually produces it in worthwhile amounts. And Virdis is mostly 5-meo-dmt and it would be a bitch to extract either of the compounds from the leaf into a smokable form anyways. Now you can make a chacruna brew with it. You can use just the P. Virdis foliage or combine it with an maoi such as ayhuasca vine or P. Harmala seeds, I would be careful and research extensively though as people have overdosed from going overboard with 5-Meo-dmt and MAOi, 5-meo-dmt is active orally on its own.
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wolf8312
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Re: psychotria elata OR psychotria viridis for simple DMT extraction ?? [Re: grownright]
#22468970 - 11/02/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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grownright said: I dont think Elata actually produces it in worthwhile amounts. And Virdis is mostly 5-meo-dmt and it would be a bitch to extract either of the compounds from the leaf into a smokable form anyways. Now you can make a chacruna brew with it. You can use just the P. Virdis foliage or combine it with an maoi such as ayhuasca vine or P. Harmala seeds, I would be careful and research extensively though as people have overdosed from going overboard with 5-Meo-dmt and MAOi, 5-meo-dmt is active orally on its own.
Viridis contains mostly 5-MeO-DMT? I'm not sure it does. Where did you find this information?
I have heard it rumoured that Chaliponga contains trace amounts of 5-MeO-DMT but I'm not sure if this is factual or not.
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Re: psychotria elata OR psychotria viridis for simple DMT extraction ?? [Re: grownright]
#22468978 - 11/02/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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For simple dmt extractions use acacia confusa, or mimosa hostilis. Can't get any simpler. And you can't be disappointed with what they produce. If your left wanting more add harmalas or just smoke more.
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grownright
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Re: psychotria elata OR psychotria viridis for simple DMT extraction ?? [Re: wolf8312]
#22469052 - 11/02/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry I guess I should have fact checked myself, I could have sworn I had read somewhere that P. Virdis contained 5-Meo-dmt. You are right that it is Chaliponga that is rumored to contain 5-meo-dmt. I guess I've just had 5-meo on the mind, I'm expecting some soon 
OP definitely get some Acacia confusa though. Its easier to source and theres plenty of acacia confusa growing and not many M. Hostilis!
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Dr. Delban
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Re: psychotria elata OR psychotria viridis for simple DMT extraction ?? [Re: Supachopped719]
#22469422 - 11/03/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Supachopped719 said: For simple dmt extractions use acacia confusa, or mimosa hostilis. Can't get any simpler. And you can't be disappointed with what they produce. If your left wanting more add harmalas or just smoke more.
What I have decided is to wait until he has mimosa hostilis back in stock again.
This psychotria elata is an interesting plant though, it is called "prostitute's lips"
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grownright
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Re: psychotria elata OR psychotria viridis for simple DMT extraction ?? [Re: Dr. Delban]
#22470372 - 11/03/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I implore you to change your mind about the M. Hostillis. I dont know who you're getting it from so I can't say whether or not they are harvesting them sustainably but odds are they aren't. I get my Acacia Confusa rootbark from Hawaii where it grows like a weed. M. Hostilis has been unsustainably harvested from its environment for the last couple of years and its continuing to happen. Stripping trees of there bark kills them, and many times the people harvesting them will just rip the trees straight from the ground and take all the roots.
Read this about someone killing 50-60 acacias in Australia in a protected National park. The link I included also has a nice list of different entheogens you can cultivate for dmt/5-meo which you can see here
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Re: psychotria elata OR psychotria viridis for simple DMT extraction ?? [Re: grownright]
#22470436 - 11/03/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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grownright said: I implore you to change your mind about the M. Hostillis. I dont know who you're getting it from so I can't say whether or not they are harvesting them sustainably but odds are they aren't. I get my Acacia Confusa rootbark from Hawaii where it grows like a weed. M. Hostilis has been unsustainably harvested from its environment for the last couple of years and its continuing to happen. Stripping trees of there bark kills them, and many times the people harvesting them will just rip the trees straight from the ground and take all the roots.
Read this about someone killing 50-60 acacias in Australia in a protected National park. The link I included also has a nice list of different entheogens you can cultivate for dmt/5-meo which you can see here
...good point bro...plus...it sounds like acacia is more on the DL.... ......getting some bark soon!
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grownright
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Re: psychotria elata OR psychotria viridis for simple DMT extraction ?? [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22470562 - 11/03/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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And much cheaper. You can get a kilo of shredded or grinded up for about $80 from some of the sellers Ive seen
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Re: psychotria elata OR psychotria viridis for simple DMT extraction ?? [Re: grownright]
#22470608 - 11/03/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Chacruna is sustainable and the Hawaiian chacruna gives 1-2% yields for 70$ a kilo that's not bad. Other chacruna is hit or miss really buyer beware.
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wolf8312
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Re: psychotria elata OR psychotria viridis for simple DMT extraction ?? [Re: ShroomDoom]
#22473798 - 11/03/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ShroomDoom said: Chacruna is sustainable and the Hawaiian chacruna gives 1-2% yields for 70$ a kilo that's not bad. Other chacruna is hit or miss really buyer beware.
I second that I have bought Charuna from a really good vendor before that turned out to be very weak and he told me that this was common.
I think it was the brazilian or peruvian cant really remember but I have heard from people on the Ayahuasca forums that hawaiian is very potent.
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