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Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread
#22466440 - 11/02/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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We all have our own perception of what the system should be. Some want next to 0 taxes others want next to unlimited tax fund services.
Let's try to avoid labels because for some reason people now identify each other by their their political leanings and I think it shouldn't be that way.
What part of your belief are you willing to give up in order to satisfy the other side? What are you willing to accept from them and still be able to go to sleep at night?
Keep it clean people. Let's actually try to have an actual conversation instead of the typical dumb ass conversation that always ends up with two camps pitted against each other both saying how crazy their opinions are. Last I checked, it has never ever lead anyone to change their minds about anything yet alone have the intelligence required to make a compromise.
So do you guys think you are actually smart enough to give something up without losing your shit?
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: Patlal]
#22466623 - 11/02/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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We need a tax code that does not require an entire multi billion dollar industry to interpret. It also needs to be transparent. Most people don't know that their employer matches their FICA. Employers should not be forced to act as tax collectors. Then let us trash all the fucking bullshit special deductions for businesses founded on the fourth of July in 1966 in Carson City, Nevada. Stop social engineering with the marriage distinction. Everybody files as an individual. No deductions for charitable donations and no tax on estates. All income earned in the US is taxable only at the personal income tax level. Foreign earned income is not taxed at all in the US. No corporate tax at all. That eliminates crony capitalism. Interest is deductible as a business expense just like materials or labor.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: zappaisgod]
#22466639 - 11/02/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Would you be willing to accept a small 10% corporate tax? They do use the roads, acquire and they are within the border. If the law sees a corporation as a person, then this said person should pay his share.
Completely agree on the marriage thing. It discriminates against single people. It give them perks that I cannot have access too. It's harder financially when you're single too. You have to assume all the costs yourself.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: Patlal]
#22469294 - 11/03/15 01:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: We all have our own perception of what the system should be. Some want next to 0 taxes others want next to unlimited tax fund services.
Let's try to avoid labels because for some reason people now identify each other by their their political leanings and I think it shouldn't be that way.
What part of your belief are you willing to give up in order to satisfy the other side? What are you willing to accept from them and still be able to go to sleep at night?
Keep it clean people. Let's actually try to have an actual conversation instead of the typical dumb ass conversation that always ends up with two camps pitted against each other both saying how crazy their opinions are. Last I checked, it has never ever lead anyone to change their minds about anything yet alone have the intelligence required to make a compromise.
So do you guys think you are actually smart enough to give something up without losing your shit?
I'm on the consistent side: 0 taxes- if the government wants some funds, have the gov collect the funds with fees on the services they provide.
Or you could be on the inconstent side: Government gets to pick and choose who and what they tax and how much tax, give money to the chosen winners, and fuck all others. All at the small cost of 123 Trillion dollars to the taxpayers of the USA- hey but we get roads, (Because roads wouldn't exist without government) ROFLMAO
 http://www.usdebtclock.org/
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22469317 - 11/03/15 01:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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burgerbrain said: I'm on the consistent side: 0 taxes- if the government wants some funds, have the gov collect the funds with fees on the services they provide.
How would the military get funded?
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22469347 - 11/03/15 02:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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burgerbrain said: I'm on the consistent side: 0 taxes- if the government wants some funds, have the gov collect the funds with fees on the services they provide.
How would the military get funded?
Good question, I always enjoy educating you guys.
We have 150 Million armed citizens, I doubt we need a military unless it's to invade another country.
In the old days countries would plunder the conquered territory, why can't this pay for itself? Oh yeah we need your tax dollars, pay up you poor fuckers (to the tune of 123 Trillion dollars)
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22469400 - 11/03/15 03:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: How would the military get funded?
Good question, I always enjoy educating you guys.
The only education I've gotten from you is how little you know, and this is no exception.
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burgerbrain said: We have 150 Million armed citizens, I doubt we need a military unless it's to invade another country.
In the old days countries would plunder the conquered territory, why can't this pay for itself?
If guns are all we have to defend ourselves against another country that has jets, bombs, ships, tanks, etc, I think we'd be invaded rather soon, and I think we'd lose rather quickly.
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burgerbrain said: Oh yeah we need your tax dollars, pay up you poor fuckers (to the tune of 123 Trillion dollars)
Give me a break with $123 trillion. You can't count future liabilities because those will be paid for with future dollars.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22470349 - 11/03/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: How would the military get funded?
Good question, I always enjoy educating you guys.
The only education I've gotten from you is how little you know, and this is no exception.
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burgerbrain said: We have 150 Million armed citizens, I doubt we need a military unless it's to invade another country.
In the old days countries would plunder the conquered territory, why can't this pay for itself?
If guns are all we have to defend ourselves against another country that has jets, bombs, ships, tanks, etc, I think we'd be invaded rather soon, and I think we'd lose rather quickly.
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burgerbrain said: Oh yeah we need your tax dollars, pay up you poor fuckers (to the tune of 123 Trillion dollars)
Give me a break with $123 trillion. You can't count future liabilities because those will be paid for with future dollars. 
Actually I've educated you enough in this thread, you should be paying me for my education services
Without the gov; Me or my family or my company, would be able to afford a jet, a bomb, a tank, a ship. Liability per taxpayer: $828,892 - I could afford a lot of nice weapons. I guess you didn't have any idea that some countries operate without a military.
So you're wrong again, per usual.
Are you advocating military invasions of other countries? You're doing your best to defend the government- I guess because without the gov' you would starve (food stamps and all).
$123 Trillion is what TAXPAYERS will wind up paying (financial promises by our government), yes we're already $20 Trillion in debt because of the gov'.
Do you know what "Liability per taxpayer" means? http://www.usdebtclock.org/
"Give me a break with $123 trillion. You can't count future liabilities because those will be paid for with future dollars." - Falcon91Wolvrn03
Who do you think will have to pay that money? Future dollars should be just as good as today's dollars, or are you expecting our money to resemble Zimbabwe's money? What if, contrary to socialist retard logic, the dollar was worth MORE in the future- that would rob the taxpayer even more. You're not very good at debate are you?
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22473043 - 11/03/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess you didn't have any idea that some countries operate without a military.
cool; which ones? i mean, since you are handing out free educations...
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22473108 - 11/03/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess you didn't have any idea that some countries operate without a military.
cool; which ones? i mean, since you are handing out free educations...
Iceland?
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22473147 - 11/03/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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so we should be more like iceland?
i thought you 2 were just arguing against that in another thread recently?
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22473493 - 11/03/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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burgerbrain said: Actually I've educated you enough in this thread, you should be paying me for my education services
Without the gov; Me or my family or my company, would be able to afford a jet, a bomb, a tank, a ship. Liability per taxpayer: $828,892 - I could afford a lot of nice weapons.
So you're wrong again, per usual.
I'll use my extra money to buy a pool, stock up my liquor cabinet, and take a few extravagant vacations. You can buy a bomb with that money if you want. Oh, and your cost just went up because I opted out.
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burgerbrain said: Are you advocating military invasions of other countries? You're doing your best to defend the government- I guess because without the gov' you would starve (food stamps and all).
I'm advocating a national defense. I don't use 'food stamps and all', so I wouldn't starve without them.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Give me a break with $123 trillion. You can't count future liabilities because those will be paid for with future dollars
Who do you think will have to pay that money? Future dollars should be just as good as today's dollars, or are you expecting our money to resemble Zimbabwe's money? What if, contrary to socialist retard logic, the dollar was worth MORE in the future- that would rob the taxpayer even more. You're not very good at debate are you?
If anyone can interpret what b-brain just said, I'd really appreciate a translation.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22473571 - 11/03/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: so we should be more like iceland?
i thought you 2 were just arguing against that in another thread recently?
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burgerbrain said: Actually I've educated you enough in this thread, you should be paying me for my education services
Without the gov; Me or my family or my company, would be able to afford a jet, a bomb, a tank, a ship. Liability per taxpayer: $828,892 - I could afford a lot of nice weapons.
So you're wrong again, per usual.
I'll use my extra money to buy a pool, stock up my liquor cabinet, and take a few extravagant vacations. You can buy a bomb with that money if you want. Oh, and your cost just went up because I opted out.
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burgerbrain said: Are you advocating military invasions of other countries? You're doing your best to defend the government- I guess because without the gov' you would starve (food stamps and all).
I'm advocating a national defense. I don't use 'food stamps and all', so I wouldn't starve without them.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Give me a break with $123 trillion. You can't count future liabilities because those will be paid for with future dollars
Who do you think will have to pay that money? Future dollars should be just as good as today's dollars, or are you expecting our money to resemble Zimbabwe's money? What if, contrary to socialist retard logic, the dollar was worth MORE in the future- that would rob the taxpayer even more. You're not very good at debate are you?
If anyone can interpret what b-brain just said, I'd really appreciate a translation.
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: If guns are all we have to defend ourselves against another country that has jets, bombs, ships, tanks, etc, I think we'd be invaded rather soon, and I think we'd lose rather quickly.
I've already told you what a national defense would look like without the government, and you didn't comment further. I win, you lose.
Any other bright ideas?
Oh yeah and this one should go in the record books: Please feel free to explain why future liabilities "don't count" economically? What are these "future dollars" you're talking about? ROFLMAO
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Give me a break with $123 trillion. You can't count future liabilities because those will be paid for with future dollars
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22473702 - 11/03/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: so we should be more like iceland?
i thought you 2 were just arguing against that in another thread recently?
Straw manning again I see, take that shit somewhere else.
ok, so educate me, smart guy. what other country without an army should we emulate?
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22473790 - 11/03/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: so we should be more like iceland?
i thought you 2 were just arguing against that in another thread recently?
Straw manning again I see, take that shit somewhere else.
ok, so educate me, smart guy. what other country without an army should we emulate?
Who said the US should emulate an entire country? I was merely talking about the military system. You're not very good at debate are you, USPS worker?
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22473823 - 11/03/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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wow, you must be like sherlock holmes or something if you deduced my profession so accurately. Truly genius.
Anyway, instead of dodging, why don't you answer my question about your original statement? did you forget? here, i'll help:
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burgerbrain said: I guess you didn't have any idea that some countries operate without a military.
cool; which ones? i mean, since you are handing out free educations...
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22473836 - 11/03/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: wow, you must be like sherlock holmes or something if you deduced my profession so accurately. Truly genius.
Anyway, instead of dodging, why don't you answer my question about your original statement? did you forget? here, i'll help:
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burgerbrain said: I guess you didn't have any idea that some countries operate without a military.
cool; which ones? i mean, since you are handing out free educations...
Oh cool. Mind if I call you USPSBalls?
Yes and you got 1 example of a country (there are many more)-hu answered your silly little question, why don't you just STFU and learn something for a change?
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22473852 - 11/03/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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i was hoping you would answer. not all of them of course. maybe a short list of 5.
as for the usps thing, i was clearly joking with you. though my trade is not secret, and i'm sure someone as brilliant as you could figure it out with a little judicious use of the search function.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22473872 - 11/03/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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nope, you won't find it in my user gallery
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22473879 - 11/03/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: i was hoping you would answer. not all of them of course. maybe a short list of 5.
as for the usps thing, i was clearly joking with you. though my trade is not secret, and i'm sure someone as brilliant as you could figure it out with a little judicious use of the search function.
Dude you heart the USPS, might as well be working for them since you spread the word that they're a legitimate, profitable, business. (Which is a blatant lie)
Nah nobody needs to list them because a list is irrelevant- Obviously a military-less society is achievable which is the only point that matters when it comes to the subject of taxes.
PS. Why would I look someone up? A gov' shill could post whatever persona he wanted on any internet forum, doesn't make them less of a gov' shill
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22473886 - 11/03/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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its very rare that an issue can be boiled down to a single salient point. i don't see why taxes would be the exception
i'm surprised you couldn't come up with my real profession. I mean, you're so much smarter than the "liberals" on this forum, but i'll bet Fal or BBW could have figured it out in 5 min or less, and provide sources.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22473914 - 11/03/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude you heart the USPS, might as well be working for them since you spread the word that they're a legitimate, profitable, business. (Which is a blatant lie)
PS. Why would I look someone up? A gov' shill could post whatever persona he wanted on any internet forum, doesn't make them less of a gov' shill
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22473950 - 11/03/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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you just saw my user gallery a few minutes ago when you were trying to look it up. do i look like i work for the government?
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said: you just saw my user gallery a few minutes ago when you were trying to look it up. do i look like i work for the government?
There's no way to tell by looking at someone- gov fuckhead retard scum represent a huge percentage of the population, come from all walks of life, but yes are usually overweight from being paid too much.
A good hint that you work for the gov was how you were talking about the USPS being a legitimate, profitable business. (This is bullshit government propaganda)
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22474087 - 11/04/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm done with burgerbrain. He has no clue how bad his posts are.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22474106 - 11/04/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Projecting again huh.. Poor Falcon91 got owned
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
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ballsalsa said: you just saw my user gallery a few minutes ago when you were trying to look it up. do i look like i work for the government?
There's no way to tell by looking at someone- gov fuckhead retard scum represent a huge percentage of the population, come from all walks of life, but yes are usually overweight from being paid too much.
A good hint that you work for the gov was how you were talking about the USPS being a legitimate, profitable business. (This is bullshit government propaganda)
C'mon burgersforbrains, That is some of the laziest posting i've seen from you(which is saying quite a lot).
Now, back on topic; can you name some countries without an army that aren't shitholes, or protected by NATO forces?
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said: you just saw my user gallery a few minutes ago when you were trying to look it up. do i look like i work for the government?
There's no way to tell by looking at someone- gov fuckhead retard scum represent a huge percentage of the population, come from all walks of life, but yes are usually overweight from being paid too much.
A good hint that you work for the gov was how you were talking about the USPS being a legitimate, profitable business. (This is bullshit government propaganda)
C'mon burgersforbrains, That is some of the laziest posting i've seen from you(which is saying quite a lot).
Now, back on topic; can you name some countries without an army that aren't shitholes, or protected by NATO forces?
Ah yes, how's your USPS job? Good pension?- I bet
Why give you a list again? You're missing the point again.
The point is that those countries that don't have an army aren't PAYING for an army- so there's no requirement for an army like the socialist propagandists would have people believe.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
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but someone IS paying for armies and navies to protect those places aren't they?
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The government needs to get a job.
I have a job to pay my bills. I don't rob people to pay my bills.
Or the government needs to do something that the rest of the world may want to pay for. Like selling cookies or something.
Presidential Thin Mints. Freedom Samoas. I'd spend more money for those than I ever would paying taxes.
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#22474185 - 11/04/15 12:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Arctic W. Fox said: The government needs to get a job.
I have a job to pay my bills. I don't rob people to pay my bills.
Or the government needs to do something that the rest of the world may want to pay for. Like selling cookies or something.
Presidential Thin Mints. Freedom Samoas. I'd spend more money for those than I ever would paying taxes.
Hahahhaha so fucking true.
Gov' is so pathetic that they can't even run a lemonade stand but they're good at pointing guns at people and demanding money!
Hey let's let the pathetic retard government workers sell drugs (Fuck it give them the monopoly in this market as long as they stay the fuck out of all of the other markets)- may be one business they could thrive with (drugs sell themselves) - At least it's something to pay down the $20 Trillion in debt the government incurred on the citizens' behalf.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22474222 - 11/04/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: you just saw my user gallery a few minutes ago when you were trying to look it up. do i look like i work for the government?
There's no way to tell by looking at someone- gov fuckhead retard scum represent a huge percentage of the population, come from all walks of life, but yes are usually overweight from being paid too much.
A good hint that you work for the gov was how you were talking about the USPS being a legitimate, profitable business. (This is bullshit government propaganda)
C'mon burgersforbrains, That is some of the laziest posting i've seen from you(which is saying quite a lot).
Now, back on topic; can you name some countries without an army that aren't shitholes, or protected by NATO forces?
Ah yes, how's your USPS job? Good pension?- I bet
Why give you a list again? You're missing the point again.
The point is that those countries that don't have an army aren't PAYING for an army- so there's no requirement for an army like the socialist propagandists would have people believe.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22474882 - 11/04/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: If anyone can interpret what b-brain just said, I'd really appreciate a translation.
He said I'm not here for honest discussion. Just to troll libtards! The only reasonable response to any of the stupid shit that comes out of my mouth is to put me on ignore. Then I'll get bored and have to troll the pub.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
#22475047 - 11/04/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Arctic W. Fox said: The government needs to get a job.
I have a job to pay my bills. I don't rob people to pay my bills.
Or the government needs to do something that the rest of the world may want to pay for. Like selling cookies or something.
Presidential Thin Mints. Freedom Samoas. I'd spend more money for those than I ever would paying taxes.
Interesting point.
Would you advocate the nationalization of a natural resource in order for the government to produce something it can sell at a profit? Oil for example would bring in hundreds of billions directly in the pocket of the government.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: Patlal]
#22475058 - 11/04/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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or maybe we could start charging our allies protection money like some sort of organized crime syndicate.
hell, our enemies too
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22475195 - 11/04/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: but someone IS paying for armies and navies to protect those places aren't they?
That is not an argument, sorry.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22475202 - 11/04/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: or maybe we could start charging our allies protection money like some sort of organized crime syndicate.
hell, our enemies too
Now you get it. Why does the gov' tax at all if they can just charge other countries, entities, corporations, for services?
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22475278 - 11/04/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: but someone IS paying for armies and navies to protect those places aren't they?
That is not an argument, sorry.
it is a question though. Are you capable of answering one?
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22475292 - 11/04/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: but someone IS paying for armies and navies to protect those places aren't they?
That is not an argument, sorry.
it is a question though. Are you capable of answering one?
Here's a response in your style:
Why the fuck should I care if some other country wants to pay to "protect" the seas from pirates?
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22475302 - 11/04/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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that might be a good point if we were talking about "some other country" or "pirates", but we aren't.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22475330 - 11/04/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: that might be a good point if we were talking about "some other country" or "pirates", but we aren't.
Poor socialists have been brainwashed to believe that the government will save them from harm, which is false. These socialists are willing to give up all of their possessions/wealth to the state because of FEAR.
Yes the only thing the government has going for it is the use of force to control people- but only because the gov can steal from people to fund their wars in the first place.
You do realize that the USA is about 5% of the world's population? I guess we have to police the globe then! Let's spend Trillions to do it too! Sounds like a great plan to continue our gov' spending our wealth into oblivion- Good job socialist statists
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22475377 - 11/04/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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right, so there you have it. you actually are incapable of answering a simple question.
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22475387 - 11/04/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: that might be a good point if we were talking about "some other country" or "pirates", but we aren't.
This is not a question, balls
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22475412 - 11/04/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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i was referring to the other questions that you (not terribly) deftly dodged
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#22481894 - 11/05/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: burgerbrain]
#22481912 - 11/05/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So essentially you guys fucked up the entire purpose of this thread....
So much for intelligent and compromising
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: Patlal]
#22481932 - 11/05/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I compromise everyday. I think everyone that's not in jail does. Most people don't think things are perfect but we don't lose our shit about it.
We save our shit losing for the internet. Where it belongs!
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Re: Let's try an economical/political COMPROMISE thread [Re: Patlal]
#22481943 - 11/05/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: So essentially you guys fucked up the entire purpose of this thread....
So much for intelligent and compromising
Why should I compromise my freedoms, and my life, because some libtard says so?
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