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How hard is it to identify ganoderma applanatum? (artists conk)
    #22466432 - 11/02/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I see artists conks all over the place here in the pacific northwest. I'd read that they had similar medicinal properties to reishi?

Are there any lookalike woody polypores that are dangerous? every type I've read about so far is believed to be medicinal :lol:

I mean, if its a wood polypore with a white underside that can be drawn on am I pretty much okay to make tea with it?


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Re: How hard is it to identify ganoderma applanatum? (artists conk) [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22466445 - 11/02/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Good question. I wanna know too.


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Re: How hard is it to identify ganoderma applanatum? (artists conk) [Re: AstaCrazyBull]
    #22466584 - 11/02/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

G.applanatum varieties are very easy to distinguish. Lookalikes however may include Laricifomes officinalis, Fomes fomentarius, and Fomitopsis ochracea.

Fomes fomentarius is probably most likely to be confused if you go buy pore bruising alone.

Fomes fomentarius


However, G.applanatum normally grows more flat, though in the PNW it takes on a variety of odd shapes and even stacked like pancakes in common. G.applanatum will typically be much larger, F.fomentarius rarely gets over 5 inches. Fomes will also have a orange brown soft flesh inside with no visible layers in the pore tubes.

Laricifomes officinalis can sometimes be confused for G.applanatum especially because both species share that odd stacked pancake growth in the PNW. Making things more confusing, While G.applanatum usually has a brown flesh, in the PNW for some reason the flesh is often white, especially the older the specimen. Laricifomes has a cream to whitish colored flesh. As does Fomitopsis ochracea. The main thing that distinguishes G.applanatum however is that regardless of the rest of the flesh color, the bottom pore tube layer should always be brown, never white or cream.

I hope this is helpful :thumbup:


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Re: How hard is it to identify ganoderma applanatum? (artists conk) [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22466681 - 11/02/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

shoot I'd be happy to find Laricifomes officinalis.

Aren't Fomes fomentarius typically all hoof shaped as opposed to flat? All the "artists conks" I see are flat. I see what I believe to be Fomes fomentarius all over the place too. Fomitopsis ochracea seems a little trickier to distinguish

"the bottom pore tube layer should always be brown, never white or cream." I find this confusing. You just mean the underside of the fruit right? All the pictures I see are white until they get bruised :confused:

Thank you a ton for the detailed answer by the way. I had just been reading the ganoderma write-up in your sig yesterday before I posted this :grin:

So you seem to have an avid interest in ganoderma. Do you use them for medicine? effective in your experience?


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Re: How hard is it to identify ganoderma applanatum? (artists conk) [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22466751 - 11/02/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Fomes can grow applanate (flat) sometimes making things a little trickier.

Fomes fomentarius (New York)


Fomes fasciatus (Florida)



This is what I mean about the pore tubes, note that the flesh of the Ganoderma is white. But the last tube layer on the bottom is brown.



And this observation is an excellent example of the stacked form that is common in the PNW. Though the flat ones can be commonly found as well. I think it is partially dependent on the age.

http://mushroomobserver.org/95203?q=2fIjl


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Re: How hard is it to identify ganoderma applanatum? (artists conk) [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22466766 - 11/02/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Thank you a ton for the detailed answer by the way. I had just been reading the ganoderma write-up in your sig yesterday before I posted this :grin:

So you seem to have an avid interest in ganoderma. Do you use them for medicine? effective in your experience?





I don't really use them, at least not as much as others here. I do grind some up and take them in capsules for my allergies on occasion. They can be as effective as benadryl. Effectiveness might also be dependent on species.

My main interest is to learn everything I can about identifying them and distinguishing between the various species. There are at least 14 species in the United States alone. It is very likely that many species contain unique compounds.


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MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.


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Re: How hard is it to identify ganoderma applanatum? (artists conk) [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22466781 - 11/02/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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rbalzer said:

Thank you a ton for the detailed answer by the way. I had just been reading the ganoderma write-up in your sig yesterday before I posted this :grin:

So you seem to have an avid interest in ganoderma. Do you use them for medicine? effective in your experience?





I don't really use them, at least not as much as others here. I do grind some up and take them in capsules for my allergies on occasion. They can be as effective as benadryl. Effectiveness might also be dependent on species.

My main interest is to learn everything I can about identifying them and distinguishing between the various species. There are at least 14 species in the United States alone. It is very likely that many species contain unique compounds.



right on. Yeah I was surprised that in my googling it was hard to find anything on a ganoderma that wasn't reishi itself. At least writings about medicinal stuff.

helpful picture btw!

None of these look-a-likes sounds poisonous though?


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Re: How hard is it to identify ganoderma applanatum? (artists conk) [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22466863 - 11/02/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nope your good with most polypores being non poisonous. There is Hapalopilus nidulans, but that's not really similar to G.applanatum in appearance.

There have been some reports of toxicity from Ganoderma preparations in China, but they also contained unknown plant admixtures, which is apparently quite common in China.


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Re: How hard is it to identify ganoderma applanatum? (artists conk) [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22467970 - 11/02/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Nope your good with most polypores being non poisonous. There is Hapalopilus nidulans, but that's not really similar to G.applanatum in appearance.

There have been some reports of toxicity from Ganoderma preparations in China, but they also contained unknown plant admixtures, which is apparently quite common in China.



:thumbup:

That liver story is scary..sounds like tea might bypass whatever the problem was but now I'm wondering if there may be extra precautions I can take with wild specimens..

always more to read about


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