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Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). 13
#2246638 - 01/16/04 04:20 PM (20 years, 17 days ago) |
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Last time I posted this I wiped it. That said, I won't this time. I re-typed it and simplified it (picture guide) so anyone can follow it. If there's minors, dullards and miscreants in the Shroomery community who wish to get reckless and disrespect this plant/themselves, then you've been warned/fuck-off. Alibi clause said blah-de-blah. Note: as Spring is around the corner for the snowed in Northern Hemisphere folks, then it's time to get on with the garden bed prep at first thaw. For the folks in the Southern Hemisphere, you'll be kicking off as soon as the warm season veggies are over. Yep, first frosts come this Autumn. For both crowds, the clock is ticking. Without ado... ************************************************ Intro. Papaver somniferum is a cold season annual by Aussie standards and only does best in the cold climate areas of the continent. Time for kick off sowing downunder is mid-Autumn and the finish is early Summer, dead by Christmas day but harvest is truly done by then -- strain Tasmanians. I have no idea what ops climate/season like in the Northern Hemisphere. I can only comment on cold climate Australia for opium poppy. You'll have to do your own homework, but a good rule of thumb is adopt what onions like. They too are cold season growers. If you can't run a long season strain like Tasmanians, then run something fast like Turkish Commercial. Seed Raising Raise seedlings by sprinkling on the top of a moist potting mix outdoors when temps are 14C to 15C, as cold is needed to break the dormancy cycle. Seed trays need drainage, so if you line a bread tray with plastic (as seen in the pic) punch some holes through it with a screw driver. You can break the dormancy cycle for an expedient germination with a couple of weeks in a baggie in the crisper dish. As a side note, store seeds in paper bags in a dark cool drawer. Now I've found almost any potting mix will work. Poppy is a hardy bastard. But hey, add 1 part peat and 1 part perlite to 3 parts potting mix to make a good seed raising mix. The peat holds more water and the perlite gives a better air filled porosity. While they grow, get on with making the garden bed they'll go to.
Soil. You want good garden soil, a fine till, stacks of worms and well drained. The site must be full sun. Veggie qual soil is a must to get the results. Use hay as mulch, it cranks the worms.
Good garden soil will power plants. If you can grow veggies then poppy is as easy as pissing on your hand.
To make beds, dig over with a mattock and shovel and then till with a fork. Or if ya slack hire a rotary hoe. Build beds up by drainage trenches to break beds up into sizes you can access. Remove all weeds in the process.
Hay is vital, it increases soil fertility and lowers weed invasion. Cover in 2 sheets of newspaper, then the hay and/or straw. I like alfalfa hay as a base, then barley straw on top. Less algae on barley, you can bare foot garden. Straw/hay is also vital in keeping poppy roots cool through out the growing season. Aussie sun is intense, even if the air is refrigerator cold.
Planting out 'n Growing. Now you can sow direct to beds, IME it sux, they come up way too thick and unless thinned like carrots, they won't do as well as clump plantings.
Clump plantings are simple. Transplant from seed trays as a clump the size of your fist at 3" tall grid space to bed 600mm x 600mm apart.
A single clump at the finish has a trunk structure like this. There's 5 plants in this one.
You can see the trunks/stems at base are about 50mm wide.
Approx. 50 pods per clump.
Which is why you NEED the 600mm x 600mm space between these clumps as it's gonna get as full as a bull's arse on the bed...capiche. You need room to get into it to harvest opium without stomping on the trunks and slaying your plot. Poppy trunks get squashed and stripped by boots. Don't walk on them and kill the goose that's laying out the good stuff...so to speak. You should also lower the water delivery to the plot just before it flowers. That way the latex flow will be hard. If after alkaloids then a good indicator is lower leaf desiccating.
You also work backwards in the plot, that way you don't wipe off the bleeding opium onto your clothes. Watch the bees too, they're in BIG numbers when in flower.
They will get to 5ft tall in good soil, full sun, well drained...get a book on veggie growing. What is worth stating is a taller crop is a better one as you can tend at a comfortable height, i.e. less stooping on the back scraping pods.
The ^above strain is the single red, it's a Tasmanian. Has a long season, high morphine content. Works nice as a garden ornamental too.
Closer look...
Of course, you don't have to broad bed 'em, you can embellish a flower garden to stealth them in.
...and if you just want colour, well grow any strain you like. Colour or drugs, you decide based on the strain you grow.
The main pests and diseases of poppy IME are slugs and snails at seedling stage and caterpillar on the pods. Just use snail baits and on the caterpilla, spray with Dipel. Botrytis too can attack the pods as well as powdery mildew on the foliage. I'm not a fan of fungicides, I believe in growing what works. Hence I don't get much P&D drama, certainly not with Tasmanians -- they're a solid work horse. What's next? Ok, you've got a plot of poppy, high alkaloid content, it's ready to bleed. Make a scraping tool. You start the bleeds about 3 to 5 days after the petals fall off. You only go 0.5mm to 1mm deep. Too shallow, she won't bleed. Too deep and she bleeds back inside the pod wasting it. You'll work it out soon enough.
Best I've found to scrape in the morning, then collect in the evening. It sets in the sun. That way errant dews/frosts won't wipe off the work. If it's going to rain, hold back on scraping or you'll lose it.
Raw opium off ornamental strains...
The darker it is, the better the quality IME. Note the difference!! So grow the correct strain for the specific task, drugs or colour?...don't forget what your goals are. This is single red Tasmanian raw opium, 'dis be da shit. Smokes well just as you see it.
Wanna make it stronger and a better smoke? Add some water to a bowl to dissolve the raw collected latex. The return is approx. 2/3 of what raw latex you had.
Double saucepan heat it to dissolve it. Water will go amber. Some people lower the pH with lemon juice or vinegar. I haven't noted any difference.
Filter it through a 73u bubble bag.
Toss that waxy waste material.
Pour the caught liquid back to a pyrex dish and double saucepan cook to evap off the water.
You get a layer like fine chocolate glass. Cling film on top so don't lose it as you scrape it up...
This is the goods. Smokes up easy.
Wanna embellish it? Make some hash, yeah have the materials to do that...
Go to http://www.bubblebag.com as I won't bother explaining how to make ice hash. But you don't want the hash dried like a normal hash product when mixed to cooked smoke grade opium, you'll never get the two to "set" together. So don't have your hash like this.
Make up some more hash, this is 73u full filtered preemo ice-hash.
Some 25u preemo, it acts as the "binding agent" -- very sticky.
Mixed to preemo ice hash, shape with a spoon. Don't touch, the cooked smoke grade opium is water soluble. You want it to dry natural, so place somewhere warm, like on top of a tropical fish tank. The fluro under the hood will dry it nice.
As it dries, it will go a jet black colour...
Once dry, break off small chunks to a glass pipe, acrid and yet spicy, full drug indulgence.
So you want to make some edible grade eh? Best to use pods that are dried, seeds removed and crush to a dust. Don't have a pic of that. But you're looking at every 300 grams dry seedless pods ground to a "poppy flour" will furnish 100 grams putty.
Cook it, gentle boil for 2hrs. You can throw in a cup of lemon juice or a 1/4 cup of vinegar. The lower pH is said to aid extracting out the morphine. IME, it makes no real difference, Tassie pods kick serious arse!
Strain it, in this case through a 250u bubble bag to a 20lt bucket...
Toss the caught matter, clean pot and add the liquid caught in the bucket back to the pot and boil off the water.
When you get to the last 1/2" deep or so, it's gonna get thick and it will prolly burn on the hobs, so tip to a pyrex dish. Sit it on a heat pad and let it evap off slow over 48hrs. Put a tea towel over the top, stops dust/insects getting in it. Hey, you're gonna eat it, be clean.
Please note, use the correct strain. Ornamental poppy strains will give a brown edible grade putty, not nearly as good as the black stuff.
Once evap'ed off, she sets like a putty. Scrape it up, can be tough stuff. You might wanna use a large flat head screw driver.
Roll to balls to eat, 3 grams is a solid dose. Find your level, it will make you very ill if you OD. Wrap excess up in a dusting of plain wheat flour, cover in cling film and pop into the freezer. I have had it keep for 3 years so far with no drama and as good as the day it was made.
Well, that's it. Happy growing and O'ing.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2246695 - 01/16/04 04:57 PM (20 years, 17 days ago) |
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awesome..nice pictoral.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2246731 - 01/16/04 05:14 PM (20 years, 16 days ago) |
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>>Good garden soil will power plants. If you can grow veggies then poppy is as easy as pissing on your hand.

VERY NICE!
Can I add this to the useful links section of the FAQ?
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: neuro]
#2248309 - 01/17/04 12:23 PM (20 years, 16 days ago) |
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please neuro...
awesome post (i've got my bowling bowls and gigantium seeds aready to go!!)
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: KafkaPie]
#2248624 - 01/17/04 03:12 PM (20 years, 16 days ago) |
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excellent!!!! very nice work dude!
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2248729 - 01/17/04 03:50 PM (20 years, 16 days ago) |
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OMG!! I love you!!
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Quanyn]
#2248927 - 01/17/04 04:55 PM (20 years, 16 days ago) |
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wow. im speechless. incredible. wow.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter] 1
#2249123 - 01/17/04 06:03 PM (20 years, 15 days ago) |
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Thank you.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: TheHateCamel]
#2249258 - 01/17/04 07:15 PM (20 years, 15 days ago) |
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That's amazing. Thanks so much. I'm going to save this for future reference.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: neuro]
#2249919 - 01/18/04 03:57 AM (20 years, 15 days ago) |
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neuro, no probs you can link it.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2250000 - 01/18/04 06:16 AM (20 years, 15 days ago) |
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2255256 - 01/20/04 06:59 AM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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can I have some?
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2256377 - 01/20/04 02:33 PM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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this thread goes in my favs. I bet itll be useful next summer Thanks !
Ps. Can I have some too ?
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2591927 - 04/22/04 05:04 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2594157 - 04/23/04 08:45 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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absolutely amazing! thanks so much for this!
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Psilygirl]
#2594412 - 04/23/04 10:31 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Really Nice,thx..
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2595193 - 04/23/04 02:21 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: funkymonk]
#2595403 - 04/23/04 03:21 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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wow very nice.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2596280 - 04/23/04 09:00 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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chillin thread dude.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2596349 - 04/23/04 09:22 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice post, thanks!
...and the photos very nice.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2597406 - 04/24/04 07:37 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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my godd... crazy!! :0
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2600809 - 04/25/04 11:53 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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5 shrooms for that! awesome contribution.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2601654 - 04/25/04 04:25 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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won-der-ful! i'm drooling... and dreaming about getting started ... thanks so much.. you rule!
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: juende]
#2601792 - 04/25/04 05:25 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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yea im gunna do teh same but at teh old ladys house next door. haha jk man
peace and great post
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#2602942 - 04/25/04 10:52 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you so much.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: blu3]
#5496790 - 04/09/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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in the forum, the date of the last post is like 4/08/06 but in this thread the year is 4/25/04 ???
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: A0999]
#5501660 - 04/10/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Even though i'm just another one, this deserves it:
Thanks! Great writeup man, this will help many many people grow some very nice poppies.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#5558837 - 04/26/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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this post is absoluteley fantastic and timeless, so i dont feel bad for ressurecting it.
My question is - I already made the latter preparation (for eating), with the intention of smoking - is this going to be ok to smoke?
Also some things ive heard -
dont expose opium to direct flame dont let temperature reach over 170 farenheight when evaporating
thanks -! 5 shrroms!
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#5565993 - 04/28/06 04:12 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Dety]
#5831394 - 07/07/06 12:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just in time for the harvest season...
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#5849433 - 07/12/06 12:02 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Absolutely amazing!
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Is the edible grade o good for smoke? Can it be smoked or is there another step in the process to make it smokeable? Im trying to find out how to turn the extracted opium into smokeable, I like to smoke it, its classier...:)
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#7506076 - 10/10/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for posting this; I'll need to add it to my desk reference.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Mr.Kinney]
#7506088 - 10/10/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well deserved bump. Best poppy thread on Shroomery IMHO.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: garbage]
#7506245 - 10/10/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
garbage said: wow. im speechless. incredible. wow.
Yep!
those pics made me
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: otis5]
#8896282 - 09/08/08 01:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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otis5 said: Is the edible grade o good for smoke? Can it be smoked or is there another step in the process to make it smokeable? Im trying to find out how to turn the extracted opium into smokeable, I like to smoke it, its classier...:)
I'm bumping this because I really want to know this. I'm planning on planting a nice plot this summer. Also have a box full of dried poppy heads in supply.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: cybrbeast]
#8905408 - 09/10/08 02:29 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Has no one ever tried smoking this extract? Sorry for the shameless bump, last time I swear.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: cybrbeast]
#8905763 - 09/10/08 07:14 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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cybrbeast said:
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otis5 said: Is the edible grade o good for smoke? Can it be smoked or is there another step in the process to make it smokeable? Im trying to find out how to turn the extracted opium into smokeable, I like to smoke it, its classier...:)
I'm bumping this because I really want to know this. I'm planning on planting a nice plot this summer. Also have a box full of dried poppy heads in supply.
if you are planting a nice plot then you should be able to produce plenty of smokeable O anyway... of course you would have alot of material left over that you can make putty with, i'm certain that i have seen a tek somewhere on here that explains how you can extract the good stuff from that as smokeable but i don't think the putty is smokeable without refining it first...
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Thanks man!
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: cybrbeast]
#8922329 - 09/13/08 05:47 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Awsome bro you are a veterent
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Lawrence]
#8925187 - 09/13/08 07:11 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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the problem with putty is you hot-filter it. it cools into putty with all the sugar and fats. let it cool in the fridge first, THEN filter, the fats and sugars fall out of concentration and filter out with the pulp. the morphine stays dissolved. the consistency of the dried material is a crispy black plastic. it can be crumbled into dust or heated into a softer, shapable material.
the best way to smoke it is to hotknife it. no carbon combustion, quick and complete vaporization. you can PROBABLY even do that with putty.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Mitchnast]
#9258568 - 11/17/08 04:56 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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the putty is not worth smoking. you have to smoke a lot of it, and with all the other matter that exists I don't think many opioids are able to escape during vaporization.
best way is either to injest as is or dilute in water. use caution with amount of putty used, obviously.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#9864070 - 02/25/09 04:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Heyy dude gr8 post/pictorial/n info best by far i have ever seen !! im kinda ive been reeding up on as many opium sources on the net as i can ie poppies.org and here on shroomery.org for any good info sources, and they all seem to very different ways of refining opium, but so far urs seems 2 b tha best. some say to do it in cold water, some room temp, and some in boiling water and eaven some say everclear. Then some say use citric acid or vinegar and some say CaOH-Calcium Hydroxide, and then theres differences on how long to boil it for. SWIM also heard that morphine and codine are more soluable in cold water than in hot, what do you beleive is the best method for getting the most goodies out of raw opium?? im pretty much a newbie wen it comes to papaver somniferum but iv always had n intrest in good plants that give good products and have grown several over the years. i was wonderin what u think. time isnt a factor for me if it means duin the best i can n getting the most out of a crop. What helpful info could you give SWIM n any1 else about how to make his/theirs cooked opm? also if possibl iz there any info you could give SWIM on how to know when the pod is ready 2 b laced ie indicators that it is mature???? how many days about after pettals fall off?? hes heard anywer 4rom 5days-14, hes also heard alot about a grayish brown band under the pod, a bluish tint outside the pod, it being kinda hard to the touch, and the lil crowns wer pettles wer attaches sticking upwards, and leaves beginning to yellow, any truth to these?? Wen it comes time for SWIM to heat the mix he would prob keep it on the safe side 120F-130F or whatever u suggest. but hes also tring to figure out how long to keep it on the stove, howevr Swim can go however long it takes to guarentee the most extraction. Swim has a Cientific C liquid reading thermometer that goes up to 110C would that work? but he doesnt have any bubble bags so he might use 3layerd cheese cloth, however he may get bubble bags since he plans 2 plant sum good indica ie wite widow or hopefuly AK47 this year 2. also SWIM was wunderin about how many plants it took to get those sized balls of O cuz hes planning on growing a good sized crop this year 4 tha first time?? and of course he will make use of all his leftover pods and straw to make edible O or make a tincture for long term storage, du u happen 2 know how long it would keep if SWIM doesnt have it in the fridge but in a closed box in a dry cool pace near sillica gell?. also im sorry about the length of my post im just very curious n questionative haha any info will b greatly appreciated, and again awsome post you should b proud ur gunna b a god among your fellow shroomerz hahaha!! thankss!:)
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: weeddude420]
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right, you are taking the piss now. don't bump any more old threads.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: weeddude420]
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You are quick to compliment, huh.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Mike_yy]
#9871854 - 02/26/09 06:55 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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dude i kno n if i dont get n answer 4rom him its fine, im new 2 this site, iv used it b4, but just never became a member so i dunno how it realy works. n im new 2 papaver somniferums, other plants i do grow n kno, but im just planin on havin a good crop com in this yearn cuz thers alata empty fields n forests wer i liv n ima guna mak tha best ov it. n im hopin 2 do tha best job i can 2 xtract tha most outa wat i pull in. im tha kinda guy who reads up on as much as i can b4 i du sumtin rite, n im hopin if any1 else reads this n knows any good info id b abl 2 du wat they say. sry bout ny inconvienience n bother
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: weeddude420]
#9872957 - 02/26/09 09:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dude, its hard to follow all that shorthand bs. It will be a lot easier for most of us if you would use caps occasionally....
The grammer nazi strikes again
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: ethnoguy]
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i have no idea what he said
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: grib]
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very nice
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He must be undarage. Like 6 yrs old.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: weeddude420]
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Ledd]
#9877856 - 02/27/09 02:59 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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i was going to add this thread to the FAQ memorable thread list, but it's already there
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: boO]
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thank you
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: grib]
#10210788 - 04/21/09 10:29 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very well done guide for growing and producing your own happy goop. I give it 5 stars, but I really wish there were more information/guides just like this for indoor poppy cultivation...even though some think it's a waste of time.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Psomni]
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i guess i'm one of those you refer to, i don't think that it is a waste of time. i just think that it is not the way to go when they grow so easily outdoors without any care at all and the deniability of the situation is nil if you do get caught growing indoors.
and everyone understands that not everyone has the space to grow outdoors, "we" are just pointing out the risks and that there are better ways.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: weeddude420]
#10948481 - 08/27/09 01:39 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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weeddude420 said: dude i kno n if i dont get n answer 4rom him its fine, im new 2 this site, iv used it b4, but just never became a member so i dunno how it realy works. n im new 2 papaver somniferums, other plants i do grow n kno, but im just planin on havin a good crop com in this yearn cuz thers alata empty fields n forests wer i liv n ima guna mak tha best ov it. n im hopin 2 do tha best job i can 2 xtract tha most outa wat i pull in. im tha kinda guy who reads up on as much as i can b4 i du sumtin rite, n im hopin if any1 else reads this n knows any good info id b abl 2 du wat they say. sry bout ny inconvienience n bother
 it's like watching a Pink Panther with Roberto Benigni
of course i'm not better then him but fuck... i'm using babylon and check spelling but this guy definitely have some guts!!!
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#15290231 - 10/28/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bringing this awesome post back to life
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Toltecatl]
#15292006 - 10/28/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thank you, this thread should be bumped regularly.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Jufin]
#15292046 - 10/28/11 05:44 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Great Write up on Somniferum!! Thanks remember we should always respect such great and powerful plants..... ..,.e
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: grib]
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fuckin absolute great thread man  
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: spookone]
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: J.T]
#15967367 - 03/19/12 01:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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very beautiful plants. I'd like to have some of my own one day. I kinda fear the opiates myself, but would treasure some to have around for medicinal reasons.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#16270124 - 05/22/12 08:53 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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OMFG, wow, mouths watering after seeing this... Proud of you man! Making use of that glorious Aussie weather! Awesome grows and delicious looking opiated hash! Wow and them opium balls look the dogs balls!
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: MrLuvaluva]
#16270619 - 05/22/12 10:36 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Haha well this thread is over 8 years old 
A really good write up to get the best out of your poppies.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: J.T]
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Thanks for the pictorial, this just helped me out alot
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Starter]
#20530474 - 09/06/14 08:45 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey mate , First thx so much for the info been desperately been searching for this kinda info and at the last minute found this, I'm actually preparing a new bed today and was wondering if mulch would do just a good a job as the hay? Sorry if someone had already asked this but because I'm doing it today I don't have any time left to search all the posts. Also it's the start of spring I planted some in autumn and a lot of the plants have died, but I still have a few going, just wondering if I've left it to late? And do they need the frost out should I protect the ones I've planted straight into the ground with plastic bottles? Also I've read that transplanting is risky and it's best to plant straight into ground what are your thoughts on this?sorry if I am asking questions that have been answered Thx
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Anzax]
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I'm actually preparing a new bed today and was wondering if mulch would do just a good a job as the hay?
Mulch will work just fine.
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Also it's the start of spring I planted some in autumn and a lot of the plants have died, but I still have a few going, just wondering if I've left it to late?
No. Now's the perfect time to sow. You can sow all the way up the end of September in my experience. Sowing earlier you can have pods on Christmas morning.
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And do they need the frost out should I protect the ones I've planted straight into the ground with plastic bottles?
They can handle light frosts. Young seedlings should be protected by heavy frosts, a shade cloth can be used as well as other methods. Once out of seedling stage they can handle it.
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Transplanting individually can be risky as any root damage can stunt them. Planting out in groups can help limit any damage and then you just select the healthiest and strongest in the group and cull the rest. You can sow them where they're to grow and thin them or plant out in groups. If you do groups just be very careful when transplanting.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: karode13]
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Transplanting works fine while in the sprouting stage, though once they start developing their second set of leaves it becomes risky and you might end up with stunted plants. Transplanting more mature plants will often be a waste. Just be sure to scoop under it to get all the roots and don't let the dirt fall apart, though even when it did for me it wasn't much of a problem.
You can start them in peat pots and put them in the ground at any stage without much risk.
Good luck.
edit: And if there are snails in the area, hunt them down! I've never seen a plant get as thoroughly decimated by snails and slugs as poppies.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: yob]
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Sweet thread. 5 shrooms for you!
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: karode13]
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Thx for the quick reply dude, I was just about to hunt down some hay, but you think mulch will be just as good? But it wouldn't attract as many worms would it? Also should I fertilise or treat the soil with some nutrients? I got some free power feed from Bunnings yesterday and was going to put this on my newly prepared soil, what do you think? Also when he says plant in clumps, does this mean grow 2-3 plants in the one spot? And then space the next clump a foot or what was it 600 ml apart? Because I thought if you had more than one plant in the same spot it would make it less potent, but I hope it doesn't as this clump growing seems like a good way to make use of little space, also what size area is good to be able to get a decent supply from? I've got an area of 2*6 metres, but there is a trench down the middle of one of the beds because my soil is very clay'y, I've also got trenches on 3 sides with the 4th being on the fence, do you think I should fill in the middle trench to get more room as I have an extremely high tolerance as I've just survived cancer and now have a huge morphine/methadone habit well huge to normal person but average to a heroin or morphine user, I'm on 60mgs of methadone. Again thx for the speedy reply, I dunno why I wasn't notified, I almost joined another forum just because I thought no one was on this thread anymore, going to go out and get some mulch now Thx
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Anzax]
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I can't read your post , it's one big paragraph. I did pick up the soil and nutrient question. I wouldn't spend a bunch of money on the like. They seem to thrive in crappy soil.
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Urb]
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Anzax]
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Sorry I didn't realise it was so hard to read, I was in a rush when I wrote it, the main question I need answered is what does the original poster mean when he says plant in clumps?
Also I've got some that I planted at the end of autumn that went dormant through winter although some grew with the protection of soft drink bottles but most even the ones that have grown well have leaves that are turning yellow? Is that a drainage issues? Or nutrients or is it just natural? Cause the soil at first was high grade well airated but after being walked has become quite compressed, I've dug a trench on 2 sides and given them some fertiliser to hopefully solve either issue. Also some have stunted in growth but still look green and healthy will they eventually come good? I've built new beds just in case but I invested a lot in this first bed and if I could save them I'd be wrapped. Thx
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: Anzax]
#20563851 - 09/13/14 10:00 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry I should elaborate on the clumps question I assume it means grow 2-3 plants in the one area and space the next clump with 2 hands or a foot/30cm, is this an accurate interpretation of the clumps theory? Or should I just post one plant? Also when thinning out how do you tell which is the healthiest? By height or colour? Like some I've had are tall but they have a reddish purplish tinge and I'm unsure if this is normal or a sign of the beginnings of mould and not having the soil drained? Again thx
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Re: Opium Poppy (dial ups warned). [Re: yob]
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Can anyone help with those questions about leaves turning brown etc? Pls?
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