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Kratom is giving me the spins
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I took like 6 gs of bali kratom last night, just ate it and washed it down with water. And this morning I have the worst headache, very dizzy, and nearly puked. fuck kratom. Im never taking that shit again. That shits poison.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
#22465883 - 11/02/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeh kratom is like a posions jungle leaf.
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YOu obviously took too much. 6 grams of potent kratom will hit you like a brick and cause an unpleasnt feeling. This is a Kratom "overdose".
Take less.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
#22465908 - 11/02/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Funny you made this thread because I took 6 grams as well(5.8 grams to be exact) about 3 days ago and woke up the next morning feeling like I had a hangover...
Kratom...
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22465913 - 11/02/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bigfeely123 said: Funny you made this thread because I took 6 grams as well(5.8 grams to be exact) about 3 days ago and woke up the next morning feeling like I had a hangover...
Kratom... 
You took too much.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Achillita]
#22465919 - 11/02/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I worked my dosage up from 2 grams (starting point), increasing the dosage each time by a gram or so. I just don't like the stuff. It's either too little or too much.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22465940 - 11/02/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn 6g made you sick?
7g was what I used to take with no tolerance... I ended up taking like 30g a day for awhile
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22465947 - 11/02/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think kratom kinda blows. Real opiates are so much better
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: SnowDaze]
#22465960 - 11/02/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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30 grams!? Holy
I'm guessing you had a huge tolerance though.
Kratom's just not my thing... I've tried it 25 times, give or take, only once or twice I've gotten any effects from it and they weren't worthwhile at all. 95% of my attempts of getting effects from kratom have left me feeling so sick, throwing up, and waking up the next day with a "kratom hangover". I've tried two different sources, various strains, and various doses. My starting dose was 2 grams and each time I worked my way up. And the toss & wash method is absolutely horrible... it doesn't help that the powder literally will not bind, for a lack of a better term, with water. Toss & wash = instathrowup for me.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22465967 - 11/02/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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If 2 grams make you sick, then go lower. You might just be super sensative
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Achillita]
#22465972 - 11/02/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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2 grams did nothing at all. No positive or negative effects. 2 grams was my starting point.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22465984 - 11/02/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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An ounce a day?!?!!! Holy shit. I can take like 4 grams and be nodding off
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I read that a couple ears ago, kratom quality was shit. TOdays kratom s way better.
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Yeah I was going through a half pound a week! No withdrawal tho when I stopped really tho so it wasn't too bad at all
This was earlier this year
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: SnowDaze]
#22466001 - 11/02/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh dang, you go hard
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Achillita]
#22466016 - 11/02/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Did you have a backhoe dumping powdered leaf into your stomach
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The krat I have now, the most I'll do is 4g usually but I've gone up to 8g which was strong but not all that enjoyable. Less is more with krat. Personally though I don't find it nearly as enjoyable without weed, without weed is like a light hydrocodone buzz, with weed the krat amplifies the euphoria so it reminds me more of maybe 10mg morphine. Morphine is the best opiate imo/ime
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Weird, I think I've only heard of one other person getting dizzy from kratom. Sounds like a strange side effect.
It's unfortunate that so many people get so little out of kratom. I suspect it has something to do with variations in individual metabolism.
For me, it's pretty amazing. I seldom get any adverse effects, but they've definitely increased alongside my tolerance & average dose. As a result I dose lower now than I did a few months ago but still get around the same effects.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22466156 - 11/02/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bigfeely123 said: I worked my dosage up from 2 grams (starting point), increasing the dosage each time by a gram or so. I just don't like the stuff. It's either too little or too much. 
same with me, i did the same. I miss weed.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
#22466161 - 11/02/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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yup I'm never taking this stuff again, i still have an oz of the leaf kind from kraken kratom if anyone wants it.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
#22466198 - 11/02/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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kratom is tricky. 2 grams with my Motrin is good pain relief. Anything more than 3G is a gamble for me
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
#22466200 - 11/02/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Try some powdered leaf from kratom collection
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
#22466205 - 11/02/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kratom is great. I've been taking red strains at 7-10 gram a dose everyday for years and have never felt better. I cant find much fault with any raw opiate. 3-4 grams is a good first dose. Some people think 2 grams is good. Drugs are less about the drug and more about the person taking them. The poison is hidden within the cure. Peace out.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Love_spirit]
#22466610 - 11/02/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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When I take it on an empty stomach I'm much more likely to get nausea but the effects are much stronger. Typically what I do now is take it on an empty stomach and when I start feeling the effects typically about 20 min, I'll get a snack. Good effects and no nausea that way.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
#22466613 - 11/02/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cowb0yNeal00 said: Im never taking that shit again. That shits poison.
Sounds like something someone would say after a night of drinking
Perhaps you just took too much.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
#22466622 - 11/02/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I cant eat more than 5.5g without feeling like shit, and anything under 4 doesn't do anything at all. It's a very narrow window, and too damn finicky getting it right. I pretty much never take kratom despite having two lbs of it just cus its not that appealing
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Ezuma]
#22466745 - 11/02/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've taken up to 70 grams in a single day before
I have very, very negative physical after-effects when I do so, such as pretty serious skin lesions.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: morrowasted]
#22466752 - 11/02/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The crazy thing is you probably weren't even that high For me anyway, kratom has a ceiling in terms of the positive effects, the nausea and fatigue typically continue to scale with dose though.
I think the highest I've gone in a day is around the 20g mark. I'm at like ~15g today
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The crazy thing is you probably weren't even that high For me anyway, kratom has a ceiling in terms of the positive effects, the nausea and fatigue typically continue to scale with dose though.
I think the highest I've gone in a day is around the 20g mark. I'm at like ~15g today
It definitely has a ceiling, I was just trying to recall the feeling I used to get when I would take 180mg+ of oxycontin, without actually taking oxycontin, which of course is simply impossible regardless of how much kratom you take. I just stay completely away from opiates now, as I know that once I start taking them, I won't be satisfied with any dose that doesn't cause me to start drooling on myself
Also I am a ginger and apparently we have a significantly higher natural tolerance to opiates/opioids.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: morrowasted]
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I've done upwards of 50 g before. At that point i pretty much get myself trapped in an endless bout of waking dreams and the first time i took that much i threw up 3-4 times. Then I'm high all through the next day and feel like shit the third day after.
I honestly like the delerious waking dreams though. When i started using drugs i always thought the perfect high would be one that leaves me feeling trapped in a dream. Acid kinda does that, but kratom has a calmness with it that i honestly prefer for regular dosing. Though acid is better, but i couldn't imagine using it multiple days in a row.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
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kratom varies a lot in potency for each batch, you might get a batch that you will take 3grms of and be feeling lovely, then reorder the same type next time from the same vendor and feel ill or not much at all at the same dose.
I have read something about wet/dry seasons can affect the potency, when it's harvested too. Reddit has some great reading on the subject of kratom.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Achillita]
#22467489 - 11/02/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Achillita said: YOu obviously took too much. 6 grams of potent kratom will hit you like a brick and cause an unpleasnt feeling. This is a Kratom "overdose".
Take less.
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Achillita said: YOu obviously took too much. 6 grams of potent kratom will hit you like a brick and cause an unpleasnt feeling. This is a Kratom "overdose".
Take less.
Quote:
Achillita said: YOu obviously took too much. 6 grams of potent kratom will hit you like a brick and cause an unpleasnt feeling. This is a Kratom "overdose".
Take less.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00] 1
#22467509 - 11/02/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cowb0yNeal00 said: I took like 6 gs of bali kratom last night, just ate it and washed it down with water. And this morning I have the worst headache, very dizzy, and nearly puked. fuck kratom. Im never taking that shit again. That shits poison.
You know kratom is good when you take it and get really sick and spinny. Then you lie down and listen to miles davis. Works everytime.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: highvibes]
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i like the alkaloids better than the powder. the powder makes me kinda nauseous to begin with. to me though, kratom's about like coffee. i'll take it like once a year if i want some energy. if you're trying to party on it you'd be better off with something else. but i wouldn't suggest opiates to anyone.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: millzy]
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lol who the fuck parties on opiates anyways?
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: highvibes]
#22468042 - 11/02/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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highvibes said: lol who the fuck parties on opiates anyways?
a lot of people?
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: highvibes]
#22468049 - 11/02/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I do, or did.
Makes me super socially comfortable. I feel like the coolest cat around, I take on a brand new persona. Everyone loves me, everyone knows me.
Ah, the opiate delusion.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: highvibes]
#22468094 - 11/02/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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highvibes said: lol who the fuck parties on opiates anyways?
Me. At around 30 grams, Kratom makes me into a binge dancer. I used to go to electronica clubs on 30-40 grams of Kratom or 60-90mg of oxycontin + a high dose of a GABA-b specific agonist (marketed as a "muscle relaxer") + ~100mg of caffeine regularly and dance for 6 hours straight. This combination of supposed "downers" (with the exception of caffeine, which I didn't even always use) got me much more interested in dancing than MDMA ever did, and honestly I think I am a far better dancer on opiates than I am when drunk or on MDMA.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: morrowasted]
#22468114 - 11/02/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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how did you manage to consume 30-60 grams in one sitting? I can barely manage 12-15, and my god the shits are terrible.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: morrowasted]
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highvibes said: lol who the fuck parties on opiates anyways?
Me. At around 30 grams, Kratom makes me into a binge dancer. I used to go to electronica clubs on 30-40 grams of Kratom or 60-90mg of oxycontin + a high dose of a GABA-b specific agonist (marketed as a "muscle relaxer") + ~100mg of caffeine regularly and dance for 6 hours straight. This combination of supposed "downers" (with the exception of caffeine, which I didn't even always use) got me much more interested in dancing than MDMA ever did, and honestly I think I am a far better dancer on opiates than I am when drunk or on MDMA.
Man with doses like that you must have been more than a chipper. Good MDMA makes me wanna lie down lol.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: danielx]
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danielx said: how did you manage to consume 30-60 grams in one sitting? I can barely manage 12-15, and my god the shits are terrible.
capsules. about 1.5grams in each capsule. easy. after taking that much I don't shit at all for two days.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: morrowasted]
#22468148 - 11/02/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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how big were the capsules? my 00 seem to only fit around half a gram in there.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: danielx]
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how do you pack them?
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: morrowasted]
#22468171 - 11/02/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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cap m quick, pack the ever living shit out of them.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: danielx]
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well maybe I am overestimating, but it seems like I can get at least a gram in those 00s. could just be a difference in the kind of kratom we are getting and the fineness to which it is ground or something, i dunno. Regardless, even if it were .5 per capsule, I would be able to take 60 capsules. I have the stomach of a champion. but like I said previously every time I did it it would fuck up my system bad, my GI system, and my skin, and my mood, for days. Actually my skin would end up fucked up for like 10 days with nasty blisters on my back and shit if I took 50 grams+
So I don't do it anymore.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: morrowasted]
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Kratom is the shittt. I'm on a nice dose right now. I recommend taking a little benadryl with it. It usually gets rid of the negative side effects and adds potency.
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