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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22466182 - 11/02/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
yeh kratom is like a posions jungle leaf.



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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22466198 - 11/02/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

kratom is tricky.  2 grams with my Motrin is good pain relief.  Anything more than 3G is a gamble for me


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22466200 - 11/02/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Try some powdered leaf from kratom collection


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22466205 - 11/02/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Kratom is great. I've been taking red strains at 7-10 gram a dose everyday for years and have never felt better. I cant find much fault with any raw opiate. 3-4 grams is a good first dose. Some people think 2 grams is good. Drugs are less about the drug and more about the person taking them. The poison is hidden within the cure.
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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Love_spirit]
    #22466610 - 11/02/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

When I take it on an empty stomach I'm much more likely to get nausea but the effects are much stronger. Typically what I do now is take it on an empty stomach and when I start feeling the effects typically about 20 min, I'll get a snack. Good effects and no nausea that way.


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22466613 - 11/02/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Cowb0yNeal00 said:
Im never taking that shit again. That shits poison.





Sounds like something someone would say after a night of drinking

Perhaps you just took too much.


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22466622 - 11/02/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I cant eat more than 5.5g without feeling like shit, and anything under 4 doesn't do anything at all. It's a very narrow window, and too damn finicky getting it right.
I pretty much never take kratom despite having two lbs of it just cus its not that appealing


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Ezuma]
    #22466745 - 11/02/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've taken up to 70 grams in a single day before

I have very, very negative physical after-effects when I do so, such as pretty serious skin lesions.


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: morrowasted]
    #22466752 - 11/02/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:jawdrop: The crazy thing is you probably weren't even that high :lol: For me anyway, kratom has a ceiling in terms of the positive effects, the nausea and fatigue typically continue to scale with dose though.

I think the highest I've gone in a day is around the 20g mark. I'm at like ~15g today


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: hex_enduction]
    #22466764 - 11/02/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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hex_enduction said:
:jawdrop: The crazy thing is you probably weren't even that high :lol: For me anyway, kratom has a ceiling in terms of the positive effects, the nausea and fatigue typically continue to scale with dose though.

I think the highest I've gone in a day is around the 20g mark. I'm at like ~15g today



It definitely has a ceiling, I was just trying to recall the feeling I used to get when I would take 180mg+ of oxycontin, without actually taking oxycontin, which of course is simply impossible regardless of how much kratom you take. I just stay completely away from opiates now, as I know that once I start taking them, I won't be satisfied with any dose that doesn't cause me to start drooling on myself

Also I am a ginger and apparently we have a significantly higher natural tolerance to opiates/opioids.


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: morrowasted]
    #22467443 - 11/02/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've done upwards of 50 g before. At that point i pretty much get myself trapped in an endless bout of waking dreams and the first time i took that much i threw up 3-4 times. Then I'm high all through the next day and feel like shit the third day after.

I honestly like the delerious waking dreams though. When i started using drugs i always thought the perfect high would be one that leaves me feeling trapped in a dream. Acid kinda does that, but kratom has a calmness with it that i honestly prefer for regular dosing. Though acid is better, but i couldn't imagine using it multiple days in a row.


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22467487 - 11/02/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

kratom varies a lot in potency for each batch, you might get a batch that you will take 3grms of and be feeling lovely, then reorder the same type next time from the same vendor and feel ill or not much at all at the same dose. 

I have read something about wet/dry seasons can affect the potency, when it's harvested too.  Reddit has some great reading on the subject of kratom.


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Achillita]
    #22467489 - 11/02/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Achillita said:
YOu obviously took too much. 6 grams of potent kratom will hit you like a brick and cause an unpleasnt feeling. This is a Kratom "overdose".

Take less.



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Achillita said:
YOu obviously took too much. 6 grams of potent kratom will hit you like a brick and cause an unpleasnt feeling. This is a Kratom "overdose".

Take less.



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Achillita said:
YOu obviously took too much. 6 grams of potent kratom will hit you like a brick and cause an unpleasnt feeling. This is a Kratom "overdose".

Take less.






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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: Cowb0yNeal00] * 1
    #22467509 - 11/02/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I took like 6 gs of bali kratom last night, just ate it and washed it down with water. And this morning I have the worst headache, very dizzy, and nearly puked. fuck kratom. Im never taking that shit again. That shits poison.




You know kratom is good when you take it and get really sick and spinny. Then you lie down and listen to miles davis. Works everytime.


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: highvibes]
    #22467528 - 11/02/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i like the alkaloids better than the powder. the powder makes me kinda nauseous to begin with. to me though, kratom's about like coffee. i'll take it like once a year if i want some energy. if you're trying to party on it you'd be better off with something else. but i wouldn't suggest opiates to anyone.


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: millzy]
    #22468000 - 11/02/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

lol who the fuck parties on opiates anyways?


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: highvibes]
    #22468042 - 11/02/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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lol who the fuck parties on opiates anyways?




a lot of people?


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: highvibes]
    #22468049 - 11/02/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I do, or did.

Makes me super socially comfortable. I feel like the coolest cat around, I take on a brand new persona. Everyone loves me, everyone knows me.

Ah, the opiate delusion.

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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: highvibes]
    #22468094 - 11/02/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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highvibes said:
lol who the fuck parties on opiates anyways?



Me. At around 30 grams, Kratom makes me into a binge dancer. I used to go to electronica clubs on 30-40 grams of Kratom or 60-90mg of oxycontin + a high dose of a GABA-b specific agonist (marketed as a "muscle relaxer") + ~100mg of caffeine regularly and dance for 6 hours straight. This combination of supposed "downers" (with the exception of caffeine, which I didn't even always use) got me much more interested in dancing than MDMA ever did, and honestly I think I am a far better dancer on opiates than I am when drunk or on MDMA.


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Re: Kratom is giving me the spins [Re: morrowasted]
    #22468114 - 11/02/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

how did you manage to consume 30-60 grams in one sitting? I can barely manage 12-15, and my god the shits are terrible.


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