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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22476216 - 11/04/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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clock_of_omens said:
I didn't read your novel, but just because rape is legal in your scenario doesn't mean everyone automatically consented. Rape is still rape, legal or not. Just because alcohol is legal doesn't mean everyone automatically consents to having it poured in their drink.




they did if the law had that stated in the law dummy, part parody on the legal system

whats that thing those legal jerks always say, if you don't like the law just move somewhere else:cookiemonster:

then those very same people say prostituion isn't rape, and i point out they can't move and had no choice so it is rape, you guys are the ones with the loose screws in the head.  If the law is only on your side when its a taboo subject and your a girl, then guess what, your shit stinks.

you can't win the debate with me, i already won, the only points you get is from trying to defend a white knight stance, you'll gather more support, but that doesn't mean you win, you can't win, its all legal loophole shit.

U take the word rape out, put anything else in there, and you don't have 1 dam leg to stand on, why is that, its because its the topic is taboo, you can't win, you just get more support.:cookiemonster:




Macklemore8 uses rape so often and so nonchalantly that it makes me wonder what kind of a person he is off-line.

Probably as brash and yeasty as he is here.

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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #22476277 - 11/04/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

All good points. Christians might disagree on a number of points but that's religious stuff that I don't think can be proven.

Do you know of any examples of marriage in other cultures that recognize or allow it to be between two men or two women? I don't - but again, they may exist. I just don't know of any conclusive evidence that shows otherwise.

It's my position that marriage hasn't changed to only being a union between a man and a woman, ever. It has been that way since it was first conceived. If you know of something that invalidates this position, I'll have to change it if it's a reasonably credible source.


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Srirachi]
    #22476314 - 11/04/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Agreed OP.
Disliking something or disagreeing with that thing doesnt mean someone is necessarily afraid of it per se.
  You dont have to be "afraid" of poop to not want to eat any....


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: myc_check1212]
    #22476329 - 11/04/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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myc_check1212 said:
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makaveli8x8 said:
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clock_of_omens said:
I didn't read your novel, but just because rape is legal in your scenario doesn't mean everyone automatically consented. Rape is still rape, legal or not. Just because alcohol is legal doesn't mean everyone automatically consents to having it poured in their drink.




they did if the law had that stated in the law dummy, part parody on the legal system

whats that thing those legal jerks always say, if you don't like the law just move somewhere else:cookiemonster:

then those very same people say prostituion isn't rape, and i point out they can't move and had no choice so it is rape, you guys are the ones with the loose screws in the head.  If the law is only on your side when its a taboo subject and your a girl, then guess what, your shit stinks.

you can't win the debate with me, i already won, the only points you get is from trying to defend a white knight stance, you'll gather more support, but that doesn't mean you win, you can't win, its all legal loophole shit.

U take the word rape out, put anything else in there, and you don't have 1 dam leg to stand on, why is that, its because its the topic is taboo, you can't win, you just get more support.:cookiemonster:




Macklemore8 uses rape so often and so nonchalantly that it makes me wonder what kind of a person he is off-line.

Probably as brash and yeasty as he is here.

Total custy




He is actually a really great poster and contributes a lot to this forum imo.


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Oeric McKenna] * 1
    #22476375 - 11/04/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Agreed OP.
Disliking something or disagreeing with that thing doesnt mean someone is necessarily afraid of it per se.
  You dont have to be "afraid" of poop to not want to eat any....




"YOU THINK A GAY MARRIAGE IS THE SAME THING AS EATING POOP?!?! YOU ARE A HOMOPHOBE ITS THE 21ST CENTURY GET WITH THE TIMES NO HATE!!!"

:rofl:

Actually now that I think about it, there may be some similarities after all...


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Srirachi] * 1
    #22476376 - 11/04/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know of any other cultures besides our current culture. But that is really all that matters. There is no reason to cling to traditions when better ideas are brought up. People who oppose it will die out and generations on will accept it fully.


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #22476387 - 11/04/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Not if the new generations stay true to their christian faiths. Not every young person supports homosexuality.


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Srirachi]
    #22476404 - 11/04/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Srirachi said:
"YOU THINK A GAY MARRIAGE IS THE SAME THING AS EATING POOP?!?! YOU ARE A HOMOPHOBE ITS THE 21ST CENTURY GET WITH THE TIMES NO HATE!!!"




what about eating poop holes?


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22476407 - 11/04/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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i thought this paper was kinda interesting. 

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0019066#abstract0
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The universality of marriage in human societies around the world suggests a deep evolutionary history of institutionalized pair-bonding that stems back at least to early modern humans. However, marriage practices vary considerably from culture to culture, ranging from strict prescriptions and arranged marriages in some societies to mostly unregulated courtship in others, presence to absence of brideservice and brideprice, and polyandrous to polygynous unions. The ancestral state of early human marriage is not well known given the lack of conclusive archaeological evidence.







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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: ShiVersblood] * 1
    #22476431 - 11/04/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Not if the new generations stay true to their christian faiths. Not every young person supports homosexuality.




Given enough time, religion will almost certainly die out. At the very least, ridiculous fundamentalist ideas such as this will.


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #22476439 - 11/04/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Not if the new generations stay true to their christian faiths. Not every young person supports homosexuality.




theres nothing christian about you sir.

do you need another bible lesson?


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #22476469 - 11/04/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I agree that tradition isn't as important as equality, but my point all along is that bludgeoning people into compliance is not superior to debate.

Because of my basically Christian viewpoints, I initially felt like gay marriage was something to resist. However a fantastic couple I know have gay kids and they talked to me about how Jesus would have treated their kids. Jesus would have loved them just as they are, and healed them of their afflictions and urged them not to sin any more.

What modern Christians too often do is reverse the process and urge people not to sin first. That's what I was doing too - ignoring my own sins and pointing out the ones I don't commit that others do.

Now I believe that you must love and accept people just as they are, because while we were yet sinners, Christ died for ME. He didn't insist I change BEFORE I came to know Him - He accepted me in all my filth, all my sin, and because He loves me in spite of everything, my love for Him has grown. I haven't given up anything from my old life - I've just lost interest in it as I see that following Christ has brought me peace. Kind of like how it isn't hard to not touch a hot stove.

If Christians drive gay people away with their traditions and beliefs, they're working for the devil. I will never say that what I believe is a sin is not a sin - but I'm also not responsible for anyone's sin but my own and my family's. It's really none of my business if gay people want to have sex or get married, or if straight couples divorce or whatever. That's all on them. What I need to do is conform my love to the model of Christ's love - so quite literally I should be willing to die to save the life of a gay person.

That's the change that I experienced as a result of open and honest dialog. Now I explain my views to other Christians and urge them to stop worrying about gay marriage and start worrying about showing people the love of Jesus Christ.


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Srirachi]
    #22476486 - 11/04/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Why does Jesus never mention homosexuals? Jesus never said he was okay with Homosexuality in the bible. But at the same time he never said he was against it really either. But, as some men would argue,  Jesus silence on that matter is deafening.


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: ShiVersblood] * 1
    #22476495 - 11/04/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Does it really matter what some guy that may or may not have existed may or may not have said 2000 years ago. Why should we have to listen it/


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22476588 - 11/04/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah seriously, fuck what Jesus said... Christians still think Jesus was white if he did exist anyway which proves they don't know shit


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: SnowDaze]
    #22476606 - 11/04/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I heard a christian once say "He's portrayed as white to uphold the appearance of Christianity!" or something along the lines of that. God forbid a middle eastern is the figure head of their religion


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22476618 - 11/04/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Does it really matter what some guy that may or may not have existed may or may not have said 2000 years ago. Why should we have to listen it/




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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #22476626 - 11/04/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Stealth1Vampire said:
Why does Jesus never mention homosexuals? Jesus never said he was okay with Homosexuality in the bible. But at the same time he never said he was against it really either. But, as some men would argue,  Jesus silence on that matter is deafening.





you asked for it...

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Matthew 7 New International Version (NIV)
Judging Others

7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.




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True and False Disciples

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’




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John 8 New International Version
15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one.




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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22476635 - 11/04/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You forgot the obscure Jesus 3:3

"Jesus saith unto the multitudes: I like dudes."


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22476641 - 11/04/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Does it really matter what some guy that may or may not have existed may or may not have said 2000 years ago. Why should we have to listen it/




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whether Jesus was the son of god or not is certainly debatable, but his existence is no more debatable than caeser or ghengis khan or hannibal or polybius or (insert historical figure here)


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