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If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. * 15
    #22465628 - 11/02/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That's like saying I'm an artichokephobe because I don't like to participate in the act of eating artichokes.

Or that women are rapeophobes.

If the GLBT community wants to be treated respectfully by those outside the community, then stop treating people like they're to naïve to understand that you're just trying to control the dialog by vilifying everyone with whom you disagree.

We can't have a serious debate when you think that the only reason a person might not hold the exact same views as you is because of a phobia.

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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Srirachi] * 10
    #22465632 - 11/02/15 07:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What made you post this?
Somebody tried to put it in your asshole or something?


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22465638 - 11/02/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

So you are against gays or something?


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: SnowDaze]
    #22465653 - 11/02/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Is this one of those "I hate PC POLICE!" posts? Or something more serious?

Tell us what is happening OP.


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Turtletotem] * 5
    #22465668 - 11/02/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Why don't you read the post, and decide for yourself what is happening? You're part of the thread now, you can help decide what is happening.

What is happening?


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Srirachi] * 3
    #22465684 - 11/02/15 07:53 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What possible debate could you get into with a gay person (about being gay) that wouldn't come off as being homophobic anyways?


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: thebitterbuffalo26] * 4
    #22465702 - 11/02/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

No if you don't like gay people u are a homophobe... If y don't like to think about gay sex that just means you are straight... If you liked to talk about it you would be gay possibly


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Srirachi]
    #22465705 - 11/02/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Srirachi said:
Why don't you read the post, and decide for yourself what is happening? You're part of the thread now, you can help decide what is happening.

What is happening?




Well.. seems to me that you're upset about something. Probably that people didn't like you saying certain things. Yeah?


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Srirachi] * 1
    #22465715 - 11/02/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Lots ov straight people can respect another's homosexuality.  If one does'nt like artichokes, there's a difference between understanding how others can have different taste and finding another's appreciation ov them disgusting.  It's the difference between embracing individuality and wanting people to conform to you.  A homophobe is someone who fears individuality because (s)he has a god complex.


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: thebitterbuffalo26] * 7
    #22465726 - 11/02/15 08:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Well for one, the use of the word 'marriage'. Marriage began as a religious ceremony, and at some point, the government decided to begin bestowing certain benefits on people who were married. Then, at some point gay people decided they wanted the same benefits bestowed on them, but they decided that calling it any other word besides a 'marriage' was somehow robbing them of their right to be treated equally.

I take exception to their insistence that they call it a 'marriage' since most religions define a marriage as a union between a man and woman. I have no problem with gay people cohabitating, and being able to get a tax break and see each other in the ICU and all that. That's fine.

However, when I point out that I think they should use a different word that is not a re-writing of history, I'm often labeled as a homophobe, in spite of the fact that I support almost everything else the GLBT community wants to have in the pursuit of equal treatment.

There seems to be no space to have an intelligent debate on topics like that, because a vocal minority in the GLBT community seizes on the opportunity to be offended and shout at me about a phobia they've made up. Why does the fact that a gay person and I disagree about terminology mean that I am afraid of catching gay or something? Why is their desire to use a word a certain way a human right, but my desire to use it a certain way is a psychological disorder?

It's disingenuous, and prevents constructive dialog from taking place. Very counterproductive.


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Srirachi]
    #22465740 - 11/02/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Personally I don't use the term. The etymology just seems stupid: the prefix "homo-" means "same", so it seems like it should mean "a person who is afraid of that which is the same" instead of "fear of homosexuality." Plus it is frequently applied in a context that doesn't necessarily involve fear at all.


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: lavod]
    #22465749 - 11/02/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I don't follow all the media crazes about new stuff that threatens our traditions, so I'm not sure what this is a reaction to... But ya, not being gay or not being interested in experimenting with being gay is not homophobia :shrug:. Most people understand that whether they're gay or strait. I think you're real beef is with people overreacting and making reaching assumptions, and that is absolutely a problem that lots of political groups have. I think it stems from the fact that they make simplistic arguments to try to appeal to as many people as possible, and as a result, they rile up a bunch of simpletons that want to talk simply because they've been riled. Don't let that rile you into forming prejudices against the GLBT community. They should be respected simply because society works better when people try to be respectful towards each other.

I also don't get your beef with gay people using the word marriage. They want to use it in it's legal sense, not it's religious sense, and it's a good word for what they want it to mean. Making people use another stupid word that means almost exactly the same thing just gives lawyers more power. If you keep this nonsense up, then Enlil's going to come into this thread, put on a superman cape, and start dancing around in his underwear. Is that really what you want?


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: psi] * 4
    #22465753 - 11/02/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It is a marriage and you are ignorant, not homophobic because you aren't afraid of gay people 

And gay people don't just turn gay, they are born that way usually.

Go read your bible


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Srirachi] * 2
    #22465766 - 11/02/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Transphobia is one I cant stand.

Like no BS, I'm not afraid of you, I just don't like you or your posts.


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: PLURAL]
    #22465796 - 11/02/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

^ exactly


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: SnowDaze] * 1
    #22465817 - 11/02/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

A traditional marriage is for the purpose of procreation, a homosexual commitment can't do what a traditional marriage entails and should be called a civil union.


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: SnowDaze] * 1
    #22465819 - 11/02/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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No if you don't like gay people u are a homophobe...






false, a homophobe would be someone with a fear of gay people, if a person doesnt
like gay people then he's exercising his free will to like and dislike anyone
he/she chooses based on what ever arbitrary criteria they choose. if someone
constantly berates gay people based on nothing more than the fact that they're
gay, then they're just a bigoted asshole

if you dont like trolls are you a trollophobe?
if you dont like conservatves, are you a conservophobe?
if you dont like jesus freaks are you a religiophobe?

no, it makes you bigot just like everyone else in the world that dislikes a
person or group based on some ridiculous measure you've concocted in your
own head so just remeber, if you cant accept dickheads, assholes, racist,
bigots, pedophiles, etc... for who they are, you're no different than the
bigoted 'homophobes/transphobes' if we base it on the measure of those that
demand tolerance, this means you need to change your ways and love the hate
groups, accept and tolerate them because you are in fact one of them and if
people choose not to accept all of these various haters, then they need to
STFU about the tolerance they demand and accept that people can hate
whomever they want


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22465828 - 11/02/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Oh shit I meant aren't. It must have auto corrected my misspelling


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: SnowDaze] * 1
    #22465831 - 11/02/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

SnowDaze said:

And gay people don't just turn gay, they are born that way usually.






so then a fetus is a human and abortion is in fact murder


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Re: If you call people 'homophobe' then fuck off. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22465834 - 11/02/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nah I mean like when they come out of the vag


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