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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: Icon]
    #22498825 - 11/09/15 01:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #22498867 - 11/09/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Shipibo Healing Patterns

While the shamen sing their ayahuasca icaros at night, people in the maloca- the longhouse become aware of elaborate visual patterns. The next morning the women concentrate on their work of embroidering and painting these patterns onto fabric.

The process of embroidery can last up to three months - a typical embroidered cloth takes about a month to complete. The various smaller motifs all have meaning such as thinking man, soul of a child, star of the south, leaf of a medicinal plant, stream of rain, etc., and as such can be interpreted as a narrative. The overall pattern is inspired by the different layers of the skin (and insides) of the Anaconda Serpent, in the Shipibo cosmology an earth deity which sang all forms into existence at the beginning of time. Thus when the fabrics are used for clothing, people symbolically wrap themselves in the skin of their deity.

Each pattern is completely unique and in that sense it can be called art, yet this art is not based on the imagination of an individual but rather rooted in the collective consciousness of the whole Shipibo tribe. Ingesting ayahuasca allows access to this archetypical consciousness through the icaros and the induced visions. The intent is a sacred one: Healing through communion with the prime deity. The songs, patterns and healing are one.

Visions of the Black Anaconda

There are different distinguishable patterns here that are based on archetypes of the Shipibo-Conibo tribe and eventually rooted in the subconsciousness of humanity itself. Recently a circle motif has become popular among the women; when asked about it, they reply that the circle represents an egg. It is an announcement of something that is being born at this moment.



First there are the Antigua patterns- they are the oldest patterns, often geometrical and painted with a mud paint not only on fabrics but on ceramics and walls as well. Their meanings can be read simply, but should be understood in a much larger context with multiple levels of significance.
For instance the circular pattern with a square in the middle is called Torokene and signifies the pattern of turtlebacks. Since the turtles were also used for medicine, it also means medicine.



"Coruskone" is the Shipibo expression of relationship like in the word crossing or coming together.
"Shawkene" signifies bones or also backbone or the force that gives shape.
The final Antigua pattern is called "Vinuntope", derived from the pattern that the palm leaves make when woven. These palm leaf rugs were used to sit or sleep on. So the Vinuntope pattern also means to sit down or to relax.

Not too long ago a Shipibo woman by the name of Wasamego started radically diverging from the older Antigua patterns in a style that is now known as "Classico". She was the one to be inspired by the patterns of the skin of the Anaconda and are called Mayakume. The various smaller motifs all have meaning such as thinking man, soul of a child, star of the south, leaf of a medicinal plant, stream of rain, etc. and as such can be interpreted as a narrative. However the whole of the pattern is inspired by the different layers of the skin (and insides) of the Anaconda Serpent, "Ronin" an earth deity which at the beginning of time sang all forms into existence. Thus when the fabrics are used for clothing, people symbolically wrap themselves into the skin of their deity.



This is the "Wayvana" pattern: the wavy lines mimicking each other are people eating together underneath a tree (the little square in the middle). Of course the people that eat together, through time, are really the tribe itself. So the wayvana pattern is the symbol of the tribe itself. The circle represents the river that is visualized surrounding the community. Outside of that lies the unknown, the realm of the deity which envelopes the communidad. In the Shipibo-Conibo case, the main deity is Ronin, or the Anaconda, and in the design outside of the circle is painted the Mayakune pattern, the kin of the Anaconda.

Willem Malten, 2008



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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: Icon]
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    #22504307 - 11/10/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

just started my next digital painting, trying to really go all out on an architecture level. Its roughly based on the room and patterns we were talking about, but im gonna had lots of hyperspacy circusy goodness to it, hope i can make it turn out well, cross fingers.:awesomenod:


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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: SleepyE]
    #22504342 - 11/10/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #22505000 - 11/10/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)




Those 'room' pics already posted remind me strongly of my mushroom CEVs and architecture. Not quite the same as a DMT breakthrough obviously, but I'm seeing into an architecture composed of peculiar spaces, glowing surfaces made out of light or repeating patterns that have a type of fractal surface (surface of the 'walls' is itself an intricate space with its own internal architecture).

I often see blocky colored shapes like Xs, or even miniature skulls, forming together into the looping shapes and spirals of the internal world of the CEV. Seems to be the 'architecture of doom' - as if to say this is where we will be taking you, deep black underground spaces filled with sinister unravelling madness. Also I see some vaulted and arched spaces like huge cathedrals, or cavernous areas like the holds of spaceships, sometimes with weird creatures in it.... I like all this stuff but I can't draw it.

This video has some interesting architecture starting at 3 min 14 secs. The nature of the space reminds me of my trips (although the surfaces in the video are more jagged and less organic), and I do sometimes get this kind of blue & white delftware CEV :lol:

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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: Aldebaran]
    #22517205 - 11/13/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

fuuuck, my new youtube video is dead in the water, went from a high of 180 views a day to fucking nothing because youtube bumped it out of priority listing. FUCK :mad:, well i was close to a free ride :shrug: just gotta work even harder :yesnod:

its at 1000+ views after a bit over 1 week now it will likely stay at that, smh. "sigh" lol and wtf it just lost 60 views now, wtf how is that even possible, youtube is fucking screwy.

good news is my new piece is coming along well, trying to keep the idea of clean and complex in my head as i do it. anything that i think doesnt make the cut will be erased. Its still in its infancy stages but i have the dimensions of the room all set up and having been putting in the architecture details.

been looking on the internet for tutorials on making more complex layerings of things to give it a more dimensional look.
Trying to find good light/glow tutorials on how to really make it pop.


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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #22570003 - 11/24/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Just a little Sneak peak at my next project, I have the main composition down and am now putting in the first wave of detailing.



nothing detailed is really final there is actually a few things im gonna touch up like the clowns mouth and a lot of the architecture but its a good look at where im trying to take this.

Ive been looking at some of android jones work and am drooling over his psychedelic patterning layering, really want to try to replicate his complexity but i dont even know where to begin, but im sure il figure it out someday with enough experimenting and research.

Still trying to figure out how im going to incorporate all the patternings we talked about and what i saw like the cubbys in the walls with ancient looking entities,

im going to add a lot of depth and a lot of rooms in the space where the walls are so there should be a lot going on once its finally done.


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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: SleepyE]
    #22571377 - 11/25/15 04:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Android Jones is awesome so is luke brown. They did a joint art exhibit at burning man this year. So cool! Here's a few shots


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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: Rewindicus]
    #22571389 - 11/25/15 04:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Whoa.  Love the one on the bottom right.  I really dig Luke Brown but his web site was soooo slow to load last time I visited.

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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22571529 - 11/25/15 06:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I like the tiger there were 3d glasses attached to the wall next to it!

Maximize the tiger picture its made from butterflies it was so intricately detailed!


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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: Rewindicus]
    #22571811 - 11/25/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, that's so weird... I always go to that second room of the two pics that everyone is talking about. Although my version is very shiny-plastic looking and childlike, with toys. It's kinda like Toy Story on acid.

Sleepy, could I message you about pharmahuasca? I've been wanting to try it and you're really experienced.


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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: Kinshino]
    #22571850 - 11/25/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

sure why not :blush:

Also wow i was looking up photoshop tutorials to try to advance my depth and detail, looking for x-ray type effect overlay tutorials and found one :grin:

but i came across this and it reminds me A LOT of some of the interior and terrence mckenna type hyperspace nic nacs/celestial toys i see in some of my DMT breakthroughs. like shit all over the place, sooo dmt like damn.


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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: SleepyE]
    #22604891 - 12/02/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

DUDE i found android jones making of videos holy shit if i can figure out whats happening in this video it will definitely move my shit forward, as i suspected he utilizes 3d modelling programs, one called groboto, ive only had experience with 3ds max but it looks like the groboto one has a library of very complex sequences of geometry, id rather use 3ds max because im more familiar with the software but im not sure you can get the same 3d geometry in 3ds.



i set up my gaming computer with strong graphic cards and cpu etc and im going to install all the 3d modelling programs i need like 3ds max and groboto


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    #22606019 - 12/02/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

whoa i had no idea thats what was going on! When i looked at the art im like how is that even possible!? like all the layers and shit. This truly is art.


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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: Rewindicus]
    #22606239 - 12/02/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

yeah man android jones is a fucking digital art god

hopefully the videos he has will give me an idea of the process to make multi layered artworks.


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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #22607442 - 12/03/15 05:13 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

android jones - There....are....no...words.......other than "Holy mother of God."

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    #22608096 - 12/03/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

almost finished installing 3ds max, gonna try to find a copy of groboto afterwards. i really hope il be able to import items that i make in 3ds max into photoshop, if not maybe some sort of high resolution copy and paste :justdontknow:

with groboto it looks like jones was able to import items directly into corel paint from groboto with a plug-in im guessing


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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: SleepyE]
    #22608848 - 12/03/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

have you guys seen a dudes visionary art called elohprojects

he is an absolute master who also uses a lot of groboto geometry



i'll never understand why artists like android jones and salviadroid would make videos showing you how they make their shit. Lolll w.e. i guess they dont mind giving help to the competition. well thats admirable i think :smile:


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Re: might bite the bullet and do pharmahuasca tonight [Re: SleepyE]
    #22627883 - 12/07/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

sweet, i have 3ds max, photoshop, corel paint, groboto(trial)(will buy full soon) installed on my gaming computer, should have everything android jones has, except for zbrush but 3ds max should be able to replace that,


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