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OfflineTheJakeyl88
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Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences...
    #2245695 - 01/16/04 07:47 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Hi, I am looking to grow for the first time. As a first time grower, the kits seem real appealing, and easy to use. But are they neccessary? Perlite, Chamber, substrate jars... thats about what they are, but everything is premade, sterilized and sealed. For a first grow would that not be my best option? How hard is the materials to find to make the substrate myself? I'm just trying to decide because it seems the most trustful sites only have spores, and getting a kit seems risky. What did everyone here use for their first grow? Any input is appreciated. Thanks!


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OfflineJetBlackNinja
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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: TheJakeyl88]
    #2245698 - 01/16/04 07:50 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I told someone I knew how to cultivate. Being "helpful" he bought a Homestead kit in Canada. In spite of myself I never could get that thing to grow.


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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: TheJakeyl88]
    #2245742 - 01/16/04 09:12 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I would get the supplys you need by your self...any kit you buy is sure to be several times the price that you would pay if you got the stuff seperate. And if you are going to grow then you should now how to make up the jars your self anyway. Never go very far relying on somebody else to make them for you...they are the easiest part of growing and is where you should start.

Max


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Anonymous

Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: TheJakeyl88]
    #2245753 - 01/16/04 09:19 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

You can always get the supplies you cant find through this community.


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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: TheJakeyl88]
    #2245777 - 01/16/04 09:31 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

my first grow i bought 1 spore print and followed the tek on this site to the letter, it was relatively inexpensive and it worked like a charm, sometimes the easiest way isnt the best way.


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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: TheJakeyl88]
    #2245923 - 01/16/04 10:39 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Once you get past the initial startup cost of buying all your supplies (as little as $50 or as much as $200 depending on how involved you want to get), your 2nd and 3rd grows cost you in the range of $2-3 at most. I would just buy the supplies and do it yourself. I've never used a kit but wouldn't need to because I don't think cultivating with jars is hard once you go throught the procedure once or twice.


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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: OmegaRed]
    #2246158 - 01/16/04 01:06 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Ill tell yah what man..i would never try a pre made grow kit..all you have to do is print off the magic mushroom growers guide from here..collect the supplies, and go at it...it just like putting together some lego's man...its just following some instructions...thats all you have to do ..follow instructions..

my first attempt...was a great success
second attempt...i didnt follow the instructions...= failure


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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: TheJakeyl88]
    #2246169 - 01/16/04 01:13 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

this comes up alot. I've never seen ANYONE on this site reccomend a kit.



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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: simplemachine]
    #2246183 - 01/16/04 01:19 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

i had one, this was before i really reserached anything. they SUCK. i got maybe 4 grams dry and it cost me almost 40 bux! :-( now i get much more for a cost of like 4 bux!


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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: TheJakeyl88]
    #2246198 - 01/16/04 01:27 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

The closest thing to a kit I could ever recommend would be a pre-filled spawn bag + syringe.

They tend to work well, but slowly (particularly if you don't keep the temp up around 85)

If you're just getting started and just want to see how the growth cycle goes (and you have some money to burn) bags work well. Just know that if you do enjoy it, you'll end up buying a PC, incubator, etc anyways!


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OfflineTheJakeyl88
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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: TheJakeyl88]
    #2246209 - 01/16/04 01:33 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the input, my money order is going out today for some syringes, 1 cambodian and 1 puerto rican.... And tomorrow I'll be out for supplies!


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Anonymous

Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: TheJakeyl88]
    #2246319 - 01/16/04 02:28 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

those kits you cant bye in the us so if you are in the us you cant bye it anyway.


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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: fee]
    #2246323 - 01/16/04 02:30 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

sure you can


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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: Max1]
    #2246327 - 01/16/04 02:34 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

what kit and where? I thought they where all banned but then again I dont bye them anyway


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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: fee]
    #2246363 - 01/16/04 02:43 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

You can get kits in the states that come with spore syringes, fee was refering to the ones that i can get in canada that come with the mycelium already grown, its like a premade casing. apparently they cant sell those to people in the states


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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: Yarry]
    #2246377 - 01/16/04 02:49 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

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fee was refering to the ones that i can get in canada that come with the mycelium already grown, its like a premade casing. apparently they cant sell those to people in the states




word!! we can't sell those in the states! growing mycellium is illegal in the US. lucky canoodians.


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Re: Kit or no kit? Whats your experiences... [Re: simplemachine]
    #2246387 - 01/16/04 02:53 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

yeah we have a bit more easy drug laws.


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