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Do I need PC?
    #22462370 - 11/01/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Do I need PC to for:

1. Millet
2. Agar

(I'd use steam sterilisation)


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Re: Do I need PC? [Re: hobowizard]
    #22462374 - 11/01/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yup...yup...you need a PC for both


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Re: Do I need PC? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22462382 - 11/01/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Fuck, I have already done steam sterilisation for millet...

EDIT: and agar... but it wasn't usable anyway... :lol:


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Re: Do I need PC? [Re: hobowizard] * 1
    #22462401 - 11/01/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The only thing you can really get away with steaming is brf cakes in pf tek


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Re: Do I need PC? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22462408 - 11/01/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

BRF and prepping coir for casing.


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Re: Do I need PC? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22462448 - 11/01/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Coir for casing?  You don't even need to prep that.  It's for bulk subs that you need to prep it, and that definitely doesn't require a PC.

Dunno why you'd stick around in this hobby too long without a PC, starts getting real hard to do stuff.


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Re: Do I need PC? [Re: hobowizard]
    #22462502 - 11/01/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

keep an eye out on ebay for PC :thumbup: do you mean your using coir as a casing layer? or your spawning to coir? you'd be better off with a mixture of peat moss and verm buffered with dehydrated lime as casing layer.


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Re: Do I need PC? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22462507 - 11/01/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

If you did already give it a try, or test a few. I would leave one that you didnt knock up and see how long it takes to contam. It maybe fine, depending on your techniques. I wouldnt recommend it, but it maybe workable.

Just a few years ago, everyone insisted on a PC for brf cakes.

There are some people in my family that just steam/boil their vegetables and stuff for storage in mason jars. They stay good for months (maybe this is partly due to the fact there isnt any air).

Course I would just PC everything as I dont want to lower success rates.


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Re: Do I need PC? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22462521 - 11/01/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Anyway, I've got another question:

I've got all kind of cakes (after flushes with trichoderma mold), half colonized cakes with minor contamination (still in jars), probably that future millet stuff. And I want to try outdoor grow with them, to get at least few mushrooms since I can't really fruit them cuz of the contaminations. I know something might turn out out of them, but it's not quite exactly what I'm asking (though any kind of suggestions are aprecieted), the main question is:

Could I bury them now (before winter, before all the -25C bullshit) and hoping for something to grow naturally in spring or summer when the weather is suitable? (cubensis don't grow where I live), so the answer to that question would be probably "no", since if cubensis don't grow here naturally, why would they grow like that buried for months... So the main main question would be:

What to do with the cakes, how to stop contam growth for half a year and burying them when the weather is suitable? Put them in the freezer?


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Re: Do I need PC? [Re: hobowizard]
    #22462557 - 11/01/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

They have never made it over the winter for me. It gets to -20F often here. If you have an existing compost it may work. I often dont see much snow on them because of all the heat they produce.

Well why hold onto mold for 1/2 a year, I'd just make more. Toss em out, start a compost. Then you'll free up your jars.

So hey whats your success rate like with just steaming and for how long?


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Re: Do I need PC? [Re: DrCrumbs]
    #22462600 - 11/01/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I usually steam as much as I want (1.5h-2.5h), I get a feeling when it's enough :lol: . If I get contamination, it's usually some kind of invisible bullshit (mycelium just stops colonizing for no reason, well, reason - invisible contamination (cobweb perhaps)), though I've noticed my first green mold recently (probably trichoderma) near the vermiculite filter on my half colonized brf cake (still in jar). I also had a cake that was on it's second flush, it got trichoderma (I bet it's because I let that shit dry before dunking - no bueno...).

So it's around 50/50 I guess.

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  Toss em out, start a compost. Then you'll free up your jars.




I'll free up the jars by tossing them in a bag, then saving up the bag with the spawn for future.


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Re: Do I need PC? [Re: hobowizard]
    #22462616 - 11/01/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks I just never steamed and was curios, since I came back I see everyone recommending it.

I wonder if they stall from lack of GE, then you end up with a secondary infection.


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