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U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes * 1
    #22462076 - 11/01/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I guess its just like in 1984, you know where we've always been at peace with al qaeda and now we've always been at war with al qaeda. We've always been allies with ISIS and moderate terrorists. No, We've always been enemies with them. The Ministry of Truth needs to clarify the position for today because I don't remember what its always been (today).



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U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes
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By Leith Fadel on November 1, 2015 Featured

In order to deter the Syrian and Russian Air Forces inside the East Ghouta (collection of farms) region of rural Damascus, the U.S. backed moderate rebels from “Jaysh Al-Islam” (Army of Islam) and the Free Syrian Army (FSA) have placed kidnapped Alawite women in cages to protect themselves from airstrikes.

The U.S. backed Syrian Opposition’s social media activists posted the photos of the six kidnapped Alawite women on Twitter, adding their extra commentary that included sectarian insults to degrade the helpless women and taunt the Syrian President Dr. Bashar Al-Assad.

This is not the first time that the U.S. backed moderate rebels have used the Syrian people as human shields in order to deter airstrikes; however, this blatant disregard for human life has contradicted their alleged ethos to protect the Syrian people and put an end to the government of Dr. Bashar Al-Assad.

The six women were not identified by the U.S. backed moderate rebels, but they were described by the aforementioned Islamists as Alawites, per their sectarian insults they directed towards the kidnapped civilians.

Last month, the U.S. backed moderate rebels posted pictures that displayed their fighters posing with the mutilated heads of deceased Syrian soldiers; these pictures were followed with multiple videos from the Islamists that contained death threats to the Alawite Muslims of Syria.



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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Ellis Dee] * 3
    #22462090 - 11/01/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Different cultures have different values and ethics.  We can either accept it under multiculturalism or be bigots.  It's lose lose situation.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: DieCommie]
    #22462112 - 11/01/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
Different cultures have different values and ethics.  We can either accept it under multiculturalism or be bigots.  It's lose lose situation.



If that makes you a bigot to be a good person than the word has lost any negative connotation. That insult will no longer mean anything. If what you say is true its been over used and lost all meaning.

There may even be a backlash. If being a decent person makes someone a bigot now than you might as well just say seig heil and take it all the way because why not if you'll be just called a bigot or racist no matter what you do anyway.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: DieCommie] * 3
    #22462116 - 11/01/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
Different cultures have different values and ethics.  We can either accept it under multiculturalism or be bigots.  It's lose lose situation.




I'll be a bigot, then.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Ellis Dee] * 2
    #22462123 - 11/01/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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...you'll be just called a bigot or racist no matter what you do anyway.




I believe that is the case.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: DieCommie] * 2
    #22462263 - 11/01/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

These so called moderates are just as crazy as the rest. They yell allahu akbar same as IS.
Coalition is sending them arms and advisors.
Im happy Canada is pulling out of this cluster fuck.

Say what you will about middle eastern dictators, they kept these crazy fuckers in line.

As for op, proving my point!

Syria Al-Assad ftw.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Gotlib]
    #22462570 - 11/01/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

that's hilarious do they get to poke them with sticks?


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Ellis Dee] * 2
    #22462578 - 11/01/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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are they thinking it will protect them from russian airstrikes?


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22462596 - 11/01/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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are they thinking it will protect them from russian airstrikes?


:lolsy:



When it gets reported in the American media they'll report, "Russia bomb group of helpless women". Mark my words! Instead of criticizing these CIA, Mossad, ISIS guys for using human shields it's a pure propaganda story of helpless women being killed when it plays in our media. They'll probably even say the "Russians killed women in cages". Thats how they keep the public's support back here at home no matter what the truth actually is.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Ellis Dee] * 1
    #22462760 - 11/01/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think there is much American public support for any of these scumbags.  Syria is a nation of scum and cowardice.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22462832 - 11/01/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't think there is much American public support for any of these scumbags.  Syria is a nation of scum and cowardice.




Totally agree. But somehow we came up with a side to support in Iraq and Afghanistan and their populace are equally disgusting.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #22462901 - 11/01/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't think there is much American public support for any of these scumbags.  Syria is a nation of scum and cowardice.




Totally agree. But somehow we came up with a side to support in Iraq and Afghanistan and their populace are equally disgusting.



We didn't really support anybody in either place.  We were just against the leadership.  We gave the people elections.  They went pretty well.  Then we removed our protection.  Big mistake.  Just our presence would have been huge.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod] * 2
    #22463002 - 11/01/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

We should just let those fucks kill each other.

We should've nuked Mecca after 9/11 but Bush was a faggot.

I say don't do shit but if we get hit just erase a few Tehrans or whatever and move on.

If we had nuked Mecca after 9/11 and then just shrugged and said don't fucking touch us or this is what happens the world would have ultimately accepted it. You fuck with the bull you get the horns.


But Nooooo America is a country of PC faggots. So there you have it. Now we can fag off in Syria while their "refugees" infiltrate the West.

George Bush's America.

Oh and fagalagadingdong Iran is right around the corner, too.

:smilingpuppy:

Thank you service men and women. :lolsy:


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #22463019 - 11/01/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

With fracking, offshore drilling and new oil explorations we can simply cut them off from funding by lowering the price of oil.  We can undermine their society and way of life without explicit war and increase the standard of living for everyone else on the planet.  Its already happening to some extent, the low price of oil is hurting them.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: DieCommie]
    #22463126 - 11/01/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It is hurting them a lot.  Russia, too.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22463680 - 11/01/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It would be smarter to use all the fossil fuels outside the US first. The last country to have it is going to have the world by the balls.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #22463700 - 11/01/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I agree.  These losers have no choice but to use all their oil because they have nothing else.  If we can exploit enough of ours to keep their price in the toilet it is a good thing.  They are still going to drill.  They have no choice.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22463751 - 11/01/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:obama:


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22463754 - 11/01/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

prey nobody's an infidel in that palace.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22463765 - 11/01/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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are they thinking it will protect them from russian airstrikes?


:lolsy:



When it gets reported in the American media they'll report, "Russia bomb group of helpless women". Mark my words! Instead of criticizing these CIA, Mossad, ISIS guys for using human shields it's a pure propaganda story of helpless women being killed when it plays in our media. They'll probably even say the "Russians killed women in cages". Thats how they keep the public's support back here at home no matter what the truth actually is.





russia will say "are the terrorists dead? mission accomplished!"


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22463787 - 11/01/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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Quote:

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are they thinking it will protect them from russian airstrikes?


:lolsy:



When it gets reported in the American media they'll report, "Russia bomb group of helpless women". Mark my words! Instead of criticizing these CIA, Mossad, ISIS guys for using human shields it's a pure propaganda story of helpless women being killed when it plays in our media. They'll probably even say the "Russians killed women in cages". Thats how they keep the public's support back here at home no matter what the truth actually is.





russia will say "are the terrorists dead? mission accomplished!"




every casualty is more power for Russia.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22463924 - 11/01/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

is it too early in the discussion to tell you you're wrong?

even if you're right I have to make the claim


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22463938 - 11/01/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, i was just making a joke.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #22464209 - 11/01/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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It would be smarter to use all the fossil fuels outside the US first. The last country to have it is going to have the world by the balls.



I totally agree. As long as anyone will accept this toilet paper called dollars for oil we might as well take it off the fools.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22464549 - 11/01/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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yeah, i was just making a joke.





it may have been a joke but I think it's accurate


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Ellis Dee] * 1
    #22464969 - 11/01/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

They all need to parish.  men, women and children I dont care.  People who wont be a problem have left the country already. 


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Ellis Dee] * 2
    #22464973 - 11/01/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

We kidnap our own citizens and throw them in cages every day for things as simple as having a plant or a mushroom in the USA.  At they very least, they're kidnapping people to protect themselves from being bombed which is more justifiable technically speaking, than kidnapping your own citizens to protect them from themselves.


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    #22464999 - 11/01/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The excuses we come up with to justfy the foul treatment of our fellow humans is appalling.

In a sense we're only getting what we deserve.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Gotlib] * 1
    #22465029 - 11/02/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

their god says killing is okay and encourages murdering non believers.  ours says killing is bad Mmmkay. plus too forgives for things and stuff.. 


RELIGION=WAR!  its so fucking stupid.


Im sorry though, you fly planes into buildings and start beheading christians, you need to die.  its that simple.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22465035 - 11/02/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
With fracking, offshore drilling and new oil explorations we can simply cut them off from funding by lowering the price of oil.  We can undermine their society and way of life without explicit war and increase the standard of living for everyone else on the planet.  Its already happening to some extent, the low price of oil is hurting them.




Yeah and it's been killing my precious metal investments. A city or small state will fall into sinkholes like how parts of Florida are and people won't give a shit with 2 dollar gas. Which would be cheaper by the way if Obama didn't raise the gas tax 9 times.

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It is hurting them a lot.  Russia, too.




Russia is also hurting because of the Ukraine sanctions and devaluing their currency.

Saudi Arabia is going to be broke in 5 years if oil stays like this. OPEC is fucked, and we can get sweet oil from other countries.

Honestly? Russia would be wise to go war machine and clean this shit up. Their country needs economical help.

There are also banking issues in China and pipeline issues as well zappa.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: abltsandwich]
    #22465092 - 11/02/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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We kidnap our own citizens and throw them in cages every day for things as simple as having a plant or a mushroom in the USA.






um... no we dont


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    #22465096 - 11/02/15 12:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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We kidnap our own citizens and throw them in cages every day for things as simple as having a plant or a mushroom in the USA.



um... no we dont



Arrest and imprisonment is forcible abduction. People do not get to prison and close the cell door behind themself of their own free will and accord. You get caught with 2 joints in your sock in Alabama, then you get abducted (arrested) and then stored in a cage.


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    #22465099 - 11/02/15 12:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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their god says killing is okay and encourages murdering non believers.  ours says killing is bad Mmmkay. plus too forgives for things and stuff..






which god would 'ours' be, are you talking about the god of abraham?

bad news cupcake, that's their god too, in fact 'our' god says the same shit their
god says because he's the same god, your god and their god, it's the same and that
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22465105 - 11/02/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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We kidnap our own citizens and throw them in cages every day for things as simple as having a plant or a mushroom in the USA.



um... no we dont



Arrest and imprisonment is forcible abduction. People do not get to prison and close the cell door behind themself of their own free will and accord. You get caught with 2 joints in your sock in Alabama, then you get abducted (arrested) and then stored in a cage.





um... no. one is lawful while the other isnt


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22465123 - 11/02/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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We kidnap our own citizens and throw them in cages every day for things as simple as having a plant or a mushroom in the USA.



um... no we dont



Arrest and imprisonment is forcible abduction. People do not get to prison and close the cell door behind themself of their own free will and accord. You get caught with 2 joints in your sock in Alabama, then you get abducted (arrested) and then stored in a cage.





um... no. one is lawful while the other isnt



Lawful or not is not relevant to whether an abduction takes place.

If your undergo rendition and end up in some Israeli torture chamber with some mossad and MI5 guys anal probing you with electrodes then you're abducted and raped just as sure as if Jeff Dahmer captured you.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22465159 - 11/02/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Lawful or not is not relevant to whether an abduction takes place.




it's quite relavent because the sammich claimed it was kidnapping


and the definition for abduction is:

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abduction1
[ab-duhk-shuh n]

    Examples
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noun
1.
act of abducting.
2.
the state of being abducted.
3.
Law. the illegal carrying or enticing away of a person, especially by interfering with a relationship, as the taking of a child from its parent.





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If your undergo rendition and end up in some Israeli torture chamber with some mossad and MI5 guys anal probing you with electrodes then you're abducted and raped just as sure as if Jeff Dahmer captured you.




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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22465304 - 11/02/15 03:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

you're right about everything.  I change my view and agree with everything you say.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: sprinkles]
    #22465401 - 11/02/15 05:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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They all need to parish.  men, women and children I dont care.  People who wont be a problem have left the country already. 




They are going to be a problem where they are going

http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/obama-poised-to-take-some-of-europes-muslims/


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According to data from the U.N. high commissioner for refugees, 75 percent of the migrants who arrived on European soil are men, while 13 percent are children and 12 percent women.

And only a slight majority, 51 percent, of the refugees are Syrian. The remainder are from all over the Middle East and North Africa and many have purchased the passports of dead Syrians.




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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: sprinkles]
    #22465409 - 11/02/15 05:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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They all need to parish.  men, women and children I dont care.





If you're not sure which parish/perish to use, touch your fingers together to make a letter A and imagine it being a church roof.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22465413 - 11/02/15 05:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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They all need to parish.  men, women and children I dont care.  People who wont be a problem have left the country already. 




They are going to be a problem where they are going

http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/obama-poised-to-take-some-of-europes-muslims/


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According to data from the U.N. high commissioner for refugees, 75 percent of the migrants who arrived on European soil are men, while 13 percent are children and 12 percent women.

And only a slight majority, 51 percent, of the refugees are Syrian. The remainder are from all over the Middle East and North Africa and many have purchased the passports of dead Syrians.







Great. One day some mid 30s white guy is going to blowup a mosque when he's fed up with those people. Maybe then America will realize white privilege doesn't exist and certainly not for today's white males who are guilty of everything everyone else does.

Maybe we can take down the American flag to honor these poor people because it's a deep rooted symbol of hate to them.

Either way, bringing them here is a perfect reason to expand government spying and root sleeper cells.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: abltsandwich] * 1
    #22465419 - 11/02/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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We kidnap our own citizens and throw them in cages every day for things as simple as having a plant or a mushroom in the USA.  At they very least, they're kidnapping people to protect themselves from being bombed which is more justifiable technically speaking, than kidnapping your own citizens to protect them from themselves.




That's a pretty lame excuse for locking these women in cages.  It's not a contest for who is the worst...  Discuss the evils of our society, discuss the evils of their society.  But when you excuse their evil by pointing out ours you are making up lame excuses for evil.

Using their oppression as a means to vilify a different culture is knee jerk angst.  It's pathetic.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: DieCommie]
    #22465509 - 11/02/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What was excused, exactly?  It's a damnation of both societies.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22465523 - 11/02/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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We kidnap our own citizens and throw them in cages every day for things as simple as having a plant or a mushroom in the USA.



um... no we dont



Arrest and imprisonment is forcible abduction. People do not get to prison and close the cell door behind themself of their own free will and accord. You get caught with 2 joints in your sock in Alabama, then you get abducted (arrested) and then stored in a cage.





um... no. one is lawful while the other isnt




For such a wise person, you always seem to misunderstand this kind of thing.
Authority is like this big blind spot you have or something, I'd keep an eye on it if I where you.

If it where lawful to cage women and children to use as human shields, would it be any less disgusting?


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22465554 - 11/02/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What does that have to do with incarcerating criminals?


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22465556 - 11/02/15 07:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What makes a criminal? The law? Who made the law, to what purpose?
Someone growing a mushroom is as evil as a rapist and should face a similair punishment, according to the law.

What does that make the law?


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: abltsandwich] * 1
    #22465565 - 11/02/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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What was excused, exactly?  It's a damnation of both societies.




Bringing it up out of the blue is irrelevant and an excuse.  You selfishly only brought up a sliver of oppression that may affect you, when there is a whole world of irrelevant mistreatment out there you could have brought up.  When people play this diversionary tactic they implicitly excuse the topic at hand by attempting to redirect to their own cause.


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At they very least, they're kidnapping people to protect themselves from being bombed which is more justifiable technically speaking




That is a pathetic excuse.  Locking somebody in a cage does not protect them from being bombed.


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    #22465570 - 11/02/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

So you think murderers, rapists and thieves should go free?  Idiots who think that incarceration is totally to be rejected because their particular favored intoxicant can also lead to arrest are petulant little children with no serious intellectual heft.  It is an idiotic argument.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22465577 - 11/02/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So you think murderers, rapists and thieves should go free?  Idiots who think that incarceration is totally to be rejected because their particular favored intoxicant can also lead to arrest are petulant little children with no serious intellectual heft.  It is an idiotic argument.



It's also an argument that no one seems to be making.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: DieCommie]
    #22465578 - 11/02/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

A little sliver of oppression?

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In October 2013, the incarceration rate of the United States of America was the highest in the world, at 716 per 100,000 of the national population. While the United States represents about 4.4 percent of the world's population, it houses around 22 percent of the world's prisoners.




Most of those are nonviolent drug offenders.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22465580 - 11/02/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Syria is so fucking fucked... what can we, ordinary little people, do?
The people we (Netherlands) voted into power are a bunch of economists, marketing people and assorted cohorts, they do not seem capable of adressing this issue in any way, not the refugees, nor the crisis, nor the
civil war.

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So you think murderers, rapists and thieves should go free?  Idiots who think that incarceration is totally to be rejected because their particular favored intoxicant can also lead to arrest are petulant little children with no serious intellectual heft.  It is an idiotic argument.




And people who come with that dumb old arguement have nothing to say.
Have you ever, in your life, believed that people wishing the law was more just want murderers and thieves to go free? Seriously?

Don't play dumb, Zappa, it looks ugly on you.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Webster10]
    #22465663 - 11/02/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So you think murderers, rapists and thieves should go free?  Idiots who think that incarceration is totally to be rejected because their particular favored intoxicant can also lead to arrest are petulant little children with no serious intellectual heft.  It is an idiotic argument.



It's also an argument that no one seems to be making.



He is.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22465672 - 11/02/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Syria is so fucking fucked... what can we, ordinary little people, do?
The people we (Netherlands) voted into power are a bunch of economists, marketing people and assorted cohorts, they do not seem capable of adressing this issue in any way, not the refugees, nor the crisis, nor the
civil war.




What do you think the Netherlands should do?
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So you think murderers, rapists and thieves should go free?  Idiots who think that incarceration is totally to be rejected because their particular favored intoxicant can also lead to arrest are petulant little children with no serious intellectual heft.  It is an idiotic argument.




And people who come with that dumb old arguement have nothing to say.
Have you ever, in your life, believed that people wishing the law was more just want murderers and thieves to go free? Seriously?

Don't play dumb, Zappa, it looks ugly on you.




I'm sorry but you were positing an argument that the existence of a law does not justify incarceration.  You did not make any exceptions.  Do you now make exceptions?


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22465673 - 11/02/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

zappa you cannot judge others people's culture when in the USA you go to jail for a plant.  THIefs , rapists and murderers should be executed on spot so they cannot do it again,, worldwide


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    #22465675 - 11/02/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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What makes a criminal? The law? Who made the law, to what purpose?
Someone growing a mushroom is as evil as a rapist and should face a similair punishment, according to the law.

What does that make the law?




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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22465692 - 11/02/15 07:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So you think murderers, rapists and thieves should go free?  Idiots who think that incarceration is totally to be rejected because their particular favored intoxicant can also lead to arrest are petulant little children with no serious intellectual heft.  It is an idiotic argument.



It's also an argument that no one seems to be making.



He is.



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What makes a criminal? The law? Who made the law, to what purpose?
Someone growing a mushroom is as evil as a rapist and should face a similair punishment, according to the law.

What does that make the law?







Let's say you misread me, instead of purposefully being dishonest.
I'd say read it again, but.. well you quoted it, so I assume you did.
I guess you don't understand what I was trying to ask.

As for what the Netherlands should do:

The Netherlands should with one hand help these people and shelter them from the war, and with the other hand push hard for an international effort to end the Syrian civil war (Even if this means working with Assad!) so that the people can go home, and then loan them a shitload of money and send experts to help rebuild the country.

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    #22465724 - 11/02/15 08:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I read it well enough and the previous posts. 


There is only one way to end the Syrian Civil War.  Kill hundreds of thousands of people.  Maybe millions.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22465897 - 11/02/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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They are going to be a problem where they are going

http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/obama-poised-to-take-some-of-europes-muslims/


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And only a slight majority, 51 percent, of the refugees are Syrian. The remainder are from all over the Middle East and North Africa and many have purchased the passports of dead Syrians.








I'm not seeing a problem until they land on US soil, it's about time that europe
got a taste of what they've been telling us to accept, remeber, there shouldnt be
any borders, these millions of people will do the jobs no one else wants to do,
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    #22465904 - 11/02/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

how moderate of them.


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    #22465910 - 11/02/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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As for what the Netherlands should do:

The Netherlands should with one hand help these people and shelter them from the war, and with the other hand push hard for an international effort to end the Syrian civil war (Even if this means working with Assad!) so that the people can go home, and then loan them a shitload of money and send experts to help rebuild the country.

Syria must not die.





hahaha... good luck with that

so after this 'civil war' will the netherlands be carrying on with their rich
traditions of racism and rounding up the brown people to send them back or will
it just be an invitation to leave the country "brown people go home!", suppose
they dont want to leave, then what?

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    #22465958 - 11/02/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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They are going to be a problem where they are going

http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/obama-poised-to-take-some-of-europes-muslims/


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And only a slight majority, 51 percent, of the refugees are Syrian. The remainder are from all over the Middle East and North Africa and many have purchased the passports of dead Syrians.








I'm not seeing a problem until they land on US soil, it's about time that europe
got a taste of what they've been telling us to accept, remeber, there shouldnt be
any borders, these millions of people will do the jobs no one else wants to do,
they wont be a part of the crime problem, they're all good people




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    #22465993 - 11/02/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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As for what the Netherlands should do:

The Netherlands should with one hand help these people and shelter them from the war, and with the other hand push hard for an international effort to end the Syrian civil war (Even if this means working with Assad!) so that the people can go home, and then loan them a shitload of money and send experts to help rebuild the country.

Syria must not die.





hahaha... good luck with that

so after this 'civil war' will the netherlands be carrying on with their rich
traditions of racism and rounding up the brown people to send them back or will
it just be an invitation to leave the country "brown people go home!", suppose
they dont want to leave, then what?

how will the world view the dutch after this?




Rounding up brown people to send them home? The fuck are you on about,we got people from all over the world living here in semi-harmony.

Many Syrians expressed a desire to return to Syria when it becomes safer and rebuild their homeland. Both on the news and personally to me, so I tend to believe it, I would be the same, you know.


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    #22466002 - 11/02/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

now we just need some popcorn so we can watch this movie of the week

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    #22466014 - 11/02/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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    #22466057 - 11/02/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Very funny, Americano. :wink:


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    #22466081 - 11/02/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Very funny, Americano. :wink:




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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22466091 - 11/02/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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As for what the Netherlands should do:

The Netherlands should with one hand help these people and shelter them from the war, and with the other hand push hard for an international effort to end the Syrian civil war (Even if this means working with Assad!) so that the people can go home, and then loan them a shitload of money and send experts to help rebuild the country.

Syria must not die.





hahaha... good luck with that

so after this 'civil war' will the netherlands be carrying on with their rich
traditions of racism and rounding up the brown people to send them back or will
it just be an invitation to leave the country "brown people go home!", suppose
they dont want to leave, then what?

how will the world view the dutch after this?




Rounding up brown people to send them home? The fuck are you on about,we got people from all over the world living here in semi-harmony.

Many Syrians expressed a desire to return to Syria when it becomes safer and rebuild their homeland. Both on the news and personally to me, so I tend to believe it, I would be the same, you know.




"living here in semi-harmony"

Really?  You call your Muslim population living in semi-harmony?  I don't think so.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: qman]
    #22466137 - 11/02/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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"living here in semi-harmony"

Really?  You call your Muslim population living in semi-harmony?  I don't think so.




No problems in Zeeland. They've got a mosque, they live spread out amongst the Zeeuws population, there's small businesses, No ghettofication...

We Zeeuwen are good man, no worries. Plenty of room, too. We even opened a church here for Syrian Koptic Christians.

It's bad in cities like Rotterdam, because they put all the Muslims together and isolated from the rest of the community.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22466142 - 11/02/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Very funny, Americano. :wink:




Asalaam Alaikum




Wa-Alaikum-Salaam, gringo.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: qman] * 1
    #22466150 - 11/02/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I would say just that about the "muslim" population near me... I dont know every crime that's commited but they're not burning mosques and perhaps one church of christ catches fire to wash it all like they have around ferguson...

And lets take it easy on the instant capitol punishment idea,, 4th amendment, and if non-violent drug offenders were liberated we'd have room for all those assholes who squander others free will.

God is great. Men make war.

Semantics.. all misunderstanding and misinterpreting, sometimes intentional.


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22466160 - 11/02/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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"living here in semi-harmony"

Really?  You call your Muslim population living in semi-harmony?  I don't think so.




No problems in Zeeland. They've got a mosque, they live spread out amongst the Zeeuws population, there's small businesses, No ghettofication...

We Zeeuwen are good man, no worries. Plenty of room, too. We even opened a church here for Syrian Koptic Christians.

It's bad in cities like Rotterdam, because they put all the Muslims together and isolated from the rest of the community.




"they put all the Muslims together and isolated"

Is that because of public housing?  I'm assuming if they had the money to buy a home they could live anywhere they wanted, is that correct?


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: qman]
    #22466191 - 11/02/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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"living here in semi-harmony"

Really?  You call your Muslim population living in semi-harmony?  I don't think so.




No problems in Zeeland. They've got a mosque, they live spread out amongst the Zeeuws population, there's small businesses, No ghettofication...

We Zeeuwen are good man, no worries. Plenty of room, too. We even opened a church here for Syrian Koptic Christians.

It's bad in cities like Rotterdam, because they put all the Muslims together and isolated from the rest of the community.




"they put all the Muslims together and isolated"

Is that because of public housing?  I'm assuming if they had the money to buy a home they could live anywhere they wanted, is that correct?




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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22466212 - 11/02/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It's a sincere question, can they live where they want or is there discriminatory restrictions?


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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: qman]
    #22466236 - 11/02/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Oh sorry, I thought you where doing a bit.

No they can live where they want in theory, but in practice certain cities put all the first generation migrants together.
It is an old holdover from the Dutch social system of pillars:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillarisation in case you're curious.

But it didn't work very well, because it was already an outmoded form of social system in those days, so for many 1st generation migrants it came down to being excluded from society.

I think most, if not all (if I'm careful) cities with these kinds of problems used the pillar aproach with those immigrants.

And while newer generations where socially more mobile, the fact remains that they grew up in a Muslim community in a foreign land, and that is where the multicultural experiment failed dramatically, as you probably know.

So as always, we pay for the mistakes of our fathers while we make the exact same mistakes without thinking about it.
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22467278 - 11/02/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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hahaha... good luck with that

so after this 'civil war' will the netherlands be carrying on with their rich
traditions of racism and rounding up the brown people to send them back or will
it just be an invitation to leave the country "brown people go home!", suppose
they dont want to leave, then what?

how will the world view the dutch after this?



It doesn't matter how the world views the Dutch. What's at stake is the survival of the race and culture. 800 years of blood, sacrafice, and progress to get them sacred rights like habeus corpus and seperation of church and state.

Men and boys fighting to the death for liberty. Men fighting with one arm while they hold in their intestines with the other. The sacrafices of their ancestors being spit on and shat on and discarded like week old moldy sandwiches for political correctness and liberal cultural marxists!!! FUCK THAT. If these Dutch, Germans, Swedes and other native white Europeans want to live or for their children to live they must get rid of their treasonous government and expell these refugees by any means possible.


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