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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: abltsandwich] 1
#22465419 - 11/02/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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abltsandwich said: We kidnap our own citizens and throw them in cages every day for things as simple as having a plant or a mushroom in the USA. At they very least, they're kidnapping people to protect themselves from being bombed which is more justifiable technically speaking, than kidnapping your own citizens to protect them from themselves.
That's a pretty lame excuse for locking these women in cages. It's not a contest for who is the worst... Discuss the evils of our society, discuss the evils of their society. But when you excuse their evil by pointing out ours you are making up lame excuses for evil.
Using their oppression as a means to vilify a different culture is knee jerk angst. It's pathetic.
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: DieCommie]
#22465509 - 11/02/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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What was excused, exactly? It's a damnation of both societies.
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22465523 - 11/02/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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abltsandwich said: We kidnap our own citizens and throw them in cages every day for things as simple as having a plant or a mushroom in the USA.
um... no we dont
Arrest and imprisonment is forcible abduction. People do not get to prison and close the cell door behind themself of their own free will and accord. You get caught with 2 joints in your sock in Alabama, then you get abducted (arrested) and then stored in a cage.
um... no. one is lawful while the other isnt
For such a wise person, you always seem to misunderstand this kind of thing. Authority is like this big blind spot you have or something, I'd keep an eye on it if I where you.
If it where lawful to cage women and children to use as human shields, would it be any less disgusting?
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Turtletotem]
#22465554 - 11/02/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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What does that have to do with incarcerating criminals?
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
#22465556 - 11/02/15 07:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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What makes a criminal? The law? Who made the law, to what purpose? Someone growing a mushroom is as evil as a rapist and should face a similair punishment, according to the law.
What does that make the law?
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: abltsandwich] 1
#22465565 - 11/02/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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abltsandwich said: What was excused, exactly? It's a damnation of both societies.
Bringing it up out of the blue is irrelevant and an excuse. You selfishly only brought up a sliver of oppression that may affect you, when there is a whole world of irrelevant mistreatment out there you could have brought up. When people play this diversionary tactic they implicitly excuse the topic at hand by attempting to redirect to their own cause.
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At they very least, they're kidnapping people to protect themselves from being bombed which is more justifiable technically speaking
That is a pathetic excuse. Locking somebody in a cage does not protect them from being bombed.
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Turtletotem] 1
#22465570 - 11/02/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So you think murderers, rapists and thieves should go free? Idiots who think that incarceration is totally to be rejected because their particular favored intoxicant can also lead to arrest are petulant little children with no serious intellectual heft. It is an idiotic argument.
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
#22465577 - 11/02/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: So you think murderers, rapists and thieves should go free? Idiots who think that incarceration is totally to be rejected because their particular favored intoxicant can also lead to arrest are petulant little children with no serious intellectual heft. It is an idiotic argument.
It's also an argument that no one seems to be making.
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: DieCommie]
#22465578 - 11/02/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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A little sliver of oppression?
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In October 2013, the incarceration rate of the United States of America was the highest in the world, at 716 per 100,000 of the national population. While the United States represents about 4.4 percent of the world's population, it houses around 22 percent of the world's prisoners.
Most of those are nonviolent drug offenders.
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
#22465580 - 11/02/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Syria is so fucking fucked... what can we, ordinary little people, do? The people we (Netherlands) voted into power are a bunch of economists, marketing people and assorted cohorts, they do not seem capable of adressing this issue in any way, not the refugees, nor the crisis, nor the civil war.
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zappaisgod said: So you think murderers, rapists and thieves should go free? Idiots who think that incarceration is totally to be rejected because their particular favored intoxicant can also lead to arrest are petulant little children with no serious intellectual heft. It is an idiotic argument.
And people who come with that dumb old arguement have nothing to say. Have you ever, in your life, believed that people wishing the law was more just want murderers and thieves to go free? Seriously?
Don't play dumb, Zappa, it looks ugly on you.
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Webster10]
#22465663 - 11/02/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: So you think murderers, rapists and thieves should go free? Idiots who think that incarceration is totally to be rejected because their particular favored intoxicant can also lead to arrest are petulant little children with no serious intellectual heft. It is an idiotic argument.
It's also an argument that no one seems to be making.
He is.
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Turtletotem]
#22465672 - 11/02/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: Syria is so fucking fucked... what can we, ordinary little people, do? The people we (Netherlands) voted into power are a bunch of economists, marketing people and assorted cohorts, they do not seem capable of adressing this issue in any way, not the refugees, nor the crisis, nor the civil war.
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zappaisgod said: So you think murderers, rapists and thieves should go free? Idiots who think that incarceration is totally to be rejected because their particular favored intoxicant can also lead to arrest are petulant little children with no serious intellectual heft. It is an idiotic argument.
And people who come with that dumb old arguement have nothing to say. Have you ever, in your life, believed that people wishing the law was more just want murderers and thieves to go free? Seriously?
Don't play dumb, Zappa, it looks ugly on you.
I'm sorry but you were positing an argument that the existence of a law does not justify incarceration. You did not make any exceptions. Do you now make exceptions?
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
#22465673 - 11/02/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappa you cannot judge others people's culture when in the USA you go to jail for a plant. THIefs , rapists and murderers should be executed on spot so they cannot do it again,, worldwide
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Turtletotem]
#22465675 - 11/02/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: What makes a criminal? The law? Who made the law, to what purpose? Someone growing a mushroom is as evil as a rapist and should face a similair punishment, according to the law.
What does that make the law?
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod]
#22465692 - 11/02/15 07:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: So you think murderers, rapists and thieves should go free? Idiots who think that incarceration is totally to be rejected because their particular favored intoxicant can also lead to arrest are petulant little children with no serious intellectual heft. It is an idiotic argument.
It's also an argument that no one seems to be making.
He is.
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Turtletotem said: What makes a criminal? The law? Who made the law, to what purpose? Someone growing a mushroom is as evil as a rapist and should face a similair punishment, according to the law.
What does that make the law?
Let's say you misread me, instead of purposefully being dishonest. I'd say read it again, but.. well you quoted it, so I assume you did. I guess you don't understand what I was trying to ask.
As for what the Netherlands should do:
The Netherlands should with one hand help these people and shelter them from the war, and with the other hand push hard for an international effort to end the Syrian civil war (Even if this means working with Assad!) so that the people can go home, and then loan them a shitload of money and send experts to help rebuild the country.
Syria must not die.
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Turtletotem]
#22465724 - 11/02/15 08:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I read it well enough and the previous posts.
There is only one way to end the Syrian Civil War. Kill hundreds of thousands of people. Maybe millions.
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22465897 - 11/02/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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They are going to be a problem where they are going
http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/obama-poised-to-take-some-of-europes-muslims/
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According to data from the U.N. high commissioner for refugees, 75 percent of the migrants who arrived on European soil are men, while 13 percent are children and 12 percent women.
And only a slight majority, 51 percent, of the refugees are Syrian. The remainder are from all over the Middle East and North Africa and many have purchased the passports of dead Syrians.
I'm not seeing a problem until they land on US soil, it's about time that europe got a taste of what they've been telling us to accept, remeber, there shouldnt be any borders, these millions of people will do the jobs no one else wants to do, they wont be a part of the crime problem, they're all good people
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22465904 - 11/02/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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how moderate of them.
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Turtletotem]
#22465910 - 11/02/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: As for what the Netherlands should do:
The Netherlands should with one hand help these people and shelter them from the war, and with the other hand push hard for an international effort to end the Syrian civil war (Even if this means working with Assad!) so that the people can go home, and then loan them a shitload of money and send experts to help rebuild the country.
Syria must not die.
hahaha... good luck with that
so after this 'civil war' will the netherlands be carrying on with their rich traditions of racism and rounding up the brown people to send them back or will it just be an invitation to leave the country "brown people go home!", suppose they dont want to leave, then what?
how will the world view the dutch after this?
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Re: U.S. Backed Moderate Rebels Put Alawite Women in Cages to Protect Themselves from Airstrikes [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22465958 - 11/02/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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They are going to be a problem where they are going
http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/obama-poised-to-take-some-of-europes-muslims/
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According to data from the U.N. high commissioner for refugees, 75 percent of the migrants who arrived on European soil are men, while 13 percent are children and 12 percent women.
And only a slight majority, 51 percent, of the refugees are Syrian. The remainder are from all over the Middle East and North Africa and many have purchased the passports of dead Syrians.
I'm not seeing a problem until they land on US soil, it's about time that europe got a taste of what they've been telling us to accept, remeber, there shouldnt be any borders, these millions of people will do the jobs no one else wants to do, they wont be a part of the crime problem, they're all good people
Hoist by their own petard, as it were.
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