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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: DrCrumbs]
    #22462573 - 11/01/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Organic rye grains in quarts :thumbup:


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: LethalWeapon]
    #22462575 - 11/01/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I use this and do Damien5050's coir tek.  Place the brick in a bucket, pour a few quarts of verm on it, pour a gallon of boiling water on it, put the lid on, wait an hour, mix, put the lid on, let cool overnight.  Easy peasy.




im in canada and we don't use quarts to measure lol so I'm unfamiliar with how much one quart is




You'll use quarts to measure when that's the size jar you're using.


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: Inocuole]
    #22462592 - 11/01/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Bummer yeah, if you cant get coir I would just fruit as cakes.

You could defently use cakes to make more cakes, but there is a reason that brf cakes are that size/shape.


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: DrCrumbs] * 1
    #22462780 - 11/01/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I found coir ! Finally... After I prepare the sub does it need to be pasteurized / sterilized?


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: LethalWeapon]
    #22462798 - 11/01/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

you just bucket tek it.


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: LethalWeapon]
    #22462834 - 11/01/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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And here's a link to the tek.  Really great stuff.




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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #22462846 - 11/01/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I just did the bucket tek buck I don't have a lid for my bucket so I just used tinfoil is that still ohk? I couldn't find the lid its lost in my house somwhere


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: LethalWeapon]
    #22462873 - 11/01/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i'm sure its OK. you wanna really cook your coir tho, might have lost a lot of temp without the proper lid but i'm sure you at least killed the possibly added trich (if there were any).


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: spacechildo]
    #22462878 - 11/01/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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i'm sure its OK. you wanna really cook your coir tho, might have lost a lot of temp without the proper lid but i'm sure you at least killed the possibly added trich (if there were any).





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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: LethalWeapon]
    #22462881 - 11/01/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Also in that case I might jar the sub up and do an
Extra sterilization steaming


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: LethalWeapon]
    #22462888 - 11/01/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Also in that case I might jar the sub up and do an
Extra sterilization steaming



You can do that too, coir works better when cooked really well. I've heard some cultivators say that mycelium colonizes over sterilized coir much better than any other method, so that's definitely something to keep in mind.


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22462905 - 11/01/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ohk thanks, sounds good! Also do I have to use the sub right away or can it be stored for any length of time ?


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: LethalWeapon]
    #22462945 - 11/01/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

If you plan to PC your coir, they'll be fine in the jars for a few weeks or more, but it will probably dry up a lot. Remember, you want to make sure your substrate is at field capacity when mixing with your spawn, so its probably best to not let it get to that point. But, you could always rehydrate it.

Coir is very contam resistant, and 9/10 any contamination you see during the fruiting stage is likely attributed to dirty spawn jars, so make sure you have good sterile techniques in the SAB :awesomenod:


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22462961 - 11/01/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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If you plan to PC your coir, they'll be fine in the jars for a few weeks or more, but it will probably dry up a lot. Remember, you want to make sure your substrate is at field capacity when mixing with your spawn, so its probably best to not let it get to that point. But, you could always rehydrate it.

Coir is very contam resistant, and 9/10 any contamination you see during the fruiting stage is likely attributed to dirty spawn jars, so make sure you have good sterile techniques in the SAB :awesomenod:





All my spawn is 100% colonized and ready to fruit, so as long as coir is a pretty contam resistant I should be good! Everytime I've noc'd up jars I've had 100% success rate


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: LethalWeapon] * 1
    #22462978 - 11/01/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Psilosoulful said:
If you plan to PC your coir, they'll be fine in the jars for a few weeks or more, but it will probably dry up a lot. Remember, you want to make sure your substrate is at field capacity when mixing with your spawn, so its probably best to not let it get to that point. But, you could always rehydrate it.

Coir is very contam resistant, and 9/10 any contamination you see during the fruiting stage is likely attributed to dirty spawn jars, so make sure you have good sterile techniques in the SAB :awesomenod:





All my spawn is 100% colonized and ready to fruit, so as long as coir is a pretty contam resistant I should be good! Everytime I've noc'd up jars I've had 100% success rate



Awesome! Hopefully your yields are good :goodluck:


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: LethalWeapon] * 1
    #22463071 - 11/01/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ive read that coir is excellent at preventing infections.


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22463111 - 11/01/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Psilosoulful said:
If you plan to PC your coir, they'll be fine in the jars for a few weeks or more, but it will probably dry up a lot. Remember, you want to make sure your substrate is at field capacity when mixing with your spawn, so its probably best to not let it get to that point. But, you could always rehydrate it.

Coir is very contam resistant, and 9/10 any contamination you see during the fruiting stage is likely attributed to dirty spawn jars, so make sure you have good sterile techniques in the SAB :awesomenod:





All my spawn is 100% colonized and ready to fruit, so as long as coir is a pretty contam resistant I should be good! Everytime I've noc'd up jars I've had 100% success rate



Awesome! Hopefully your yields are good :goodluck:




thanks a lot man ! i hope so too !

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Ive read that coir is excellent at preventing infections.





thats great to hear, i don't want any nasty shit only the goodies :mushroom2:


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: LethalWeapon]
    #22463191 - 11/01/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

personally i would properly pasteurize the substrate in jars/bags at 140-160 degrees, i know its common knowledge but watch the 'let's grow mushrooms' videos.


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: Funguy24]
    #22463865 - 11/01/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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personally i would properly pasteurize the substrate in jars/bags at 140-160 degrees, i know its common knowledge but watch the 'let's grow mushrooms' videos.



I agree, only if we're talking about a manure based substrate.
But with coir, you can prep it any way you like, it's very contam resistant.
Pasteurizing coir doesn't seem to allow the mycelium to digest the substrate fully IME, it's best to give it the heat treatment, via bucket tek or PC'd.


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Re: can't get a hold of a good sub [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22464220 - 11/01/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Its because boiling/PCing helps soften up the coir right?


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