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Methuselah
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Hi - am I on the right track?
#22461099 - 11/01/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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 Habitat: Found these a few days ago in moist cow-pasture near to the river Thames in Essex, England..none were actually growing in cow pats although the pats were all around.. They seem to have the bell-shaped cap and nipple and long twisted stipes but I'm confused by the greyness of them and the darkness of the stipes
The closest I found here was Panaeolus papilionaceus although mine seemed fresher
I won't take any answer as encouragement to consume them as I've thrown them away anyway! But it will move me forward and I'll carefully study all the characteristics next time before moving forward. regards
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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elprawn
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Methuselah]
#22461105 - 11/01/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Panaeolus papilionaceus seems about right.
For the record, they're not worth consuming.
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Methuselah
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: elprawn]
#22461166 - 11/01/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Really? Not even as a newbie?
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Methuselah]
#22461184 - 11/01/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol, i'm not sure what being a newbie has to do with it
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#22461187 - 11/01/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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although... testing unknown mushrooms on newbies might be a way to advance the science.......
mmmmmwaaahahahaha
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Methuselah
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#22461327 - 11/01/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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RuralAnomaly said: lol, i'm not sure what being a newbie has to do with it
(lol) Well I'm a 71 yo newbie who wants to start gently and would be quite happy at first with altered perception and not too much going on. I read somewhere that tolerances adjust when using psilocybin and I would prefer to take things more cautiously than a strapping great 30 yo man would I suppose.
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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Methuselah
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#22461329 - 11/01/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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RuralAnomaly said: although... testing unknown mushrooms on newbies might be a way to advance the science.......
mmmmmwaaahahahaha
and your age and condition is?
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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Mr Piggy
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Methuselah]
#22461343 - 11/01/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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What Rural is trying to say is those mushrooms have absolutely zero psychedelic properties, so consuming more or less is a moot point.
Awesome that you're picking up the hobby later in life! Absolutely never too late to learn or try something new.
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Methuselah
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Mr Piggy]
#22461370 - 11/01/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi Mr Piggy Right...I'll be guided by you then. I thought it was too good to be true that I'd strike lucky on my first "field trip" I'm an occasional lucid dreamer and I'm working towards awareness (which is a definite aid to LD) and I suppose I half-hoped it might boost my LD count...so back to the fields I go...
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Methuselah]
#22461446 - 11/01/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Methuselah said: Hi Mr Piggy Right...I'll be guided by you then. I thought it was too good to be true that I'd strike lucky on my first "field trip" I'm an occasional lucid dreamer and I'm working towards awareness (which is a definite aid to LD) and I suppose I half-hoped it might boost my LD count...so back to the fields I go...
What is LD? I should probably already know.
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Untitled
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Lucid dream presumably
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Mr Piggy
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Untitled]
#22461527 - 11/01/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh I'm not that great of a guide, just a bumbling stumbler. The people you want info from are the Trusted Identifiers. They have a Trusted Identifier badge under their profile picture. A couple of links to get you started:
http://www.shroomery.org/8461/Which-psilocybin-mushrooms-grow-wild-in-my-area
http://www.shroomery.org/12230/Psilocybin-Species
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Methuselah
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Untitled]
#22462039 - 11/01/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yep lucid dream...there are some LDX-people out there but most of us have to struggle to get lucid...but most of us should be able to manage a few.
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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Methuselah
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Mr Piggy]
#22462059 - 11/01/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the links Mr Piggy Is a Bumbling Stumbler one up from a Stranger or do you just have a speech impediment and a limp?
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Methuselah]
#22462074 - 11/01/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can set your own custom title in your profile. I just call myself that because I seem to accident my way into good things in life. If I trip and fall, I'll land right next to some actives
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Methuselah
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Mr Piggy]
#22462109 - 11/01/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's a great way to be accident prone.
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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RuralAnomaly
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Mr Piggy]
#22462124 - 11/01/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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nooo! now THAT is serendipity!
i don't live anywhere that bountiful. but at least there's no fires, earthquakes, hurricanes, or swarms of locusts. can't have everything i guess!
and to answer your question about me there Meth, (can i call you that?) i'm not too far behind ya. i'm older than most of the peeps posting i suppose. but that doesn't stop me. the internet as a resource to identify things really has only gotten its legs since phones got cameras (in my opinion) but has really really taken off. this site especially is a boon to anyone interested in this subject
and ya, i was just yankin' your chain about the newbie/test subject thing. its really bad form to suggest that anyone actually eats something (worthless) and i was probably skimming the line there a bit just for a bit of bad humor.
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#22462203 - 11/01/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not the best serendipity, last time I found a huge patch of mature cyans it was because I knelt down on the ground and put my hand in a really, REALLY gross stinky pile of dog crap. It's been a while since I scalded off the first few pesky layers of skin on my hand scrubbing them in hot water, but I did it that day.
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Methuselah
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#22462304 - 11/01/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi Rural...or should I call you Anomaly (can we shorten the names and if so can we call you Pig MrPiggy...or is that also bad form?) I take comfort in your relative age RA (is that also OK?...if so, call me M...and should we call you MP MrPiggy?) RA, now I've formally met you, you can pull my chain anytime you like.
Seriously though I have a bit of blood pressure and asthma but not really badly. However, I'll take the cautious route to shrooms. Ideally, as I said, I'd prefer to start with a dosage that would maybe help with LD (LD'ers are also partial to little helpers although it's often things like melatonin (hormone) and galantamine (alkaloid) neither of which are freely available in good ol' Nanny Britain either.
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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elprawn
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Mr Piggy]
#22462305 - 11/01/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love dogs but dog crap is a real burden when you're hunting for mushrooms. Especially if you get down on your hands and knees to photograph them.
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Methuselah
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: elprawn]
#22462324 - 11/01/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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elprawn said: I love dogs but dog crap is a real burden when you're hunting for mushrooms. Especially if you get down on your hands and knees to photograph them.
Does that imply that you're OK with the cow shit elprawn?
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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elprawn
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Methuselah]
#22462331 - 11/01/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Methuselah said:
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elprawn said: I love dogs but dog crap is a real burden when you're hunting for mushrooms. Especially if you get down on your hands and knees to photograph them.
Does that imply that you're OK with the cow shit elprawn?
No, but I find that dogs seem to go just about anywhere that mushrooms grow. Not so much cows.
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Methuselah
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: elprawn]
#22462354 - 11/01/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess they go there because their owners take them to the fields to avoid shit on their lovely lawn. Is the terrain of choice just cow fields...if not whats the other options?
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Methuselah]
#22462380 - 11/01/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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PS gentlemen. Am I to take it that it's naughty to use words like "eat" "take" and "consume" on this site lest someone has their ear to the railway track?
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Methuselah]
#22462443 - 11/01/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Methuselah said: PS gentlemen. Am I to take it that it's naughty to use words like "eat" "take" and "consume" on this site lest someone has their ear to the railway track?
Yes, you don't need to use all that SWIM nonsense here.
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: elprawn]
#22462598 - 11/01/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Right so someone who isn't me will need to take all this on board...so much to learn, so little time...
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Methuselah]
#22462776 - 11/01/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can use any words to do with eating/taking/consuming as you like, SWIM tends to just annoy people. Welcome to the forum, note that liberty caps never grow directly from shit, they eat decaying grass roots. Hilly areas are good too, sheep/cow shit on it sometime within 6 years can help as well (I actually don't know if animal shit is 100% needed for libs to bloom).
Look for a slightly transparent cap, sliminess, nipples, and wiggly stems as beginner. It's a lot easier after your first find
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Methuselah
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Brilliant...thanks a lot. Look for a 6 foot five tall pensioner trawling the grassy swathes of south Essex, carrier bag in hand (a bag for life not a 5p one) and odds on it'll be me...happy days are ahead...if I survive
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Methuselah]
#22462891 - 11/01/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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yep, welcome aboard.
just do post your finds here so an expert (not me, mind you) can verify what you've found until you feel comfortable with your knowledge, and then we'll just want you to keep posting for eye-candy's sake pretty much, and to help others on their educational journey, where ever that begins and ends. i'm barely a mile down that road myself, but as they say, its not always the destination...
and as on all forums, its just smart to use discretion.
RA works for me, M, (as it could also stand for Resident Asshole)
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Methuselah
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#22465388 - 11/02/15 05:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks RA, MP and all you other guys (and gals?) from M (for mother******?) It's a great site, clearly well-run and I WILL be cautious.
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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Methuselah
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Mr Piggy]
#22629923 - 12/08/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mr Piggy said: What Rural is trying to say is those mushrooms have absolutely zero psychedelic properties, so consuming more or less is a moot point.
Awesome that you're picking up the hobby later in life! Absolutely never too late to learn or try something new.
Hi Mr Piggy Just as a matter of interest...you don't happen to know the scientific name for the shrooms I found? Regards
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Re: Hi - am I on the right track? [Re: Methuselah]
#22630043 - 12/08/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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As the first response said, they are Panaeolus papilionaceus.
Edible, but not active.
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Methuselah
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Sorry...I missed that. Thanks and regards
-------------------- We don't really understand what consciousness is at the really deep levels. (Terence McKenna) Awareness isn’t something we own; awareness isn’t something we possess. Awareness is actually what we are. ― Adyashanti,
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