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the_r3dz
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Re: IT is coming [Re: azur]
#22464833 - 11/01/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've seen the picture of that beast posted multiple times; Legendary. I'm excited to be around for v2
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azur
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Re: IT is coming [Re: the_r3dz]
#22464858 - 11/01/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ha. Yea. Cron told me someone on Facebook tried to claim it as theirs. Fuckers. I don't even have facebook so i guess someone here put it there
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the_r3dz
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Re: IT is coming [Re: azur]
#22464910 - 11/01/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldn't be surprised if it has been posted all over the internet by people claiming it's theirs. At least the few places on the internet people talk about this stuff...ha. I'm sure you get asked this all the time, but what did you do with it? 20 grams dry is absurd, like 10 trips, maybe more since it's potent PE. You could just take a slice of it...put it on a sandwich or something and you're done for the day.
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Re: IT is coming [Re: the_r3dz]
#22464916 - 11/01/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I gave it to a friend of mine who was having a new year's eve party. Like a bottle of champagne as a gift.
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the_r3dz
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Re: IT is coming [Re: azur]
#22464930 - 11/01/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ha, so many people post bad things about you (I'm sure jokingly) but you definitely seem like a pretty cool dude, that would be an amazing gift to receive, I can't imagine the possibilities. Were the other fruits pretty similar or was that just a monster among penises
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Re: IT is coming [Re: the_r3dz]
#22464944 - 11/01/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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That was the monster. The average was 3 fruits to an ounce. So anywhere from 5 to 15 grams. Who's talking shit on me now?
Cron? PF?
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azur
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Re: IT is coming [Re: the_r3dz]
#22464950 - 11/01/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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My title did used to be "the dick of mush cult" Not many people saw the irony in it and i even got a bad rating or two because of it.
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the_r3dz
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Re: IT is coming [Re: azur]
#22464965 - 11/01/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just something I noticed going through old threads, figured it was ironic because I see you helping lots of people on cult, but I suppose even the real notorious dicks do that so maybe it's not saying much :P Did you clone the beast or give it away as it was to not disturb it's beauty?
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azur
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Re: IT is coming [Re: the_r3dz]
#22464977 - 11/01/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea. There was a lot if bullshit back in the day. People saying pic or it didn't happen and fag shit like that. And a lot of jealousy. But we're all friends now. No, i did not clone the big one, as it came from a clone. And you don't want to clone clones.
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Re: IT is coming [Re: azur]
#22465012 - 11/01/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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azur said: Yea. There was a lot if bullshit back in the day. People saying pic or it didn't happen and fag shit like that. And a lot of jealousy. But we're all friends now. No, i did not clone the big one, as it came from a clone. And you don't want to clone clones.
Didn't know the don't clone clone rule. Itll be nice to see round 2 of those for sure.
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Re: IT is coming [Re: azur]
#22465040 - 11/02/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I thought that cloning clones was ok, but it would eventually lead to senescense? If you had cloned that and fruited the next transfer, you don't think it would make a tub full of absurdly large mushrooms? And then you can take a spore print/swab and further isolate the genetics? I sorta thought that's how it worked.
Or you can only do it once? Spores>fruits>clone>isolate>fruit>spores>repeat
by only cloning it once before gathering spores aren't you only making it more likely for those traits to occur? Couldn't you increase that likelyhood exponentially by cloning the clones? Then save a culture once it's perfected
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azur
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While morphological traits can be partially selected for, senescence factors will emerge with each clone. It's called....replicate fading. If you take a clone off of each tub one after the other, you basically can create a retard very quickly. Yield and potency, or even fruiting ability go spiraling downward. All living things can only generate so many cell divisions before it goes bye bye. Clones still have a lot of genetic variety. So to make it exactly what you're looking for, you must select the traits on the petri dish. The fruiting is simply finding out the next step so you know which direction to go.
My foot is killing me so i got really stoned to take my mind off it and niw i don't remember wjat the fuck i was jabbering about.
Recap. Grow isolated ms. Take clones. Isolate, and take good data. Then grow out. Choose which one you like. Go back to its master plate and start isolating. Once you're there, we'll tell you how to take it even furth. Don't ask until then.
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Re: IT is coming [Re: the_r3dz]
#22465051 - 11/02/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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the_r3dz said: I thought that cloning clones was ok, but it would eventually lead to senescense? If you had cloned that and fruited the next transfer, you don't think it would make a tub full of absurdly large mushrooms? And then you can take a spore print/swab and further isolate the genetics? I sorta thought that's how it worked.
Or you can only do it once? Spores>fruits>clone>isolate>fruit>spores>repeat
by only cloning it once before gathering spores aren't you only making it more likely for those traits to occur? Couldn't you increase that likelyhood exponentially by cloning the clones? Then save a culture once it's perfected
You can. And once may be fine. But it will go down fast! Like, really fast. Is growing a batch of bunk shrooms worth chancing it? You want to isolate to take it further.
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Re: IT is coming [Re: azur]
#22465091 - 11/02/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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That means I'm close! I don't have a total isolate yet, I have a few pictures of plates in one of my posts but I've gone ahead and put the one I felt was closest to grains, when it fruits what am I looking for? I thought it was another excellent mushroom to clone again, or spores, but isolating specific traits on agar? How could I possibly do that? Sort of random guesswork and then fruit it to see if I get traits I like? I realize that this is sort of derailing your thread, I've got a lot of questions about this as I'm pretty close to doing it, but I apparently know a lot less than I thought.
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Re: IT is coming [Re: the_r3dz]
#22465173 - 11/02/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sort of random guesswork and then fruit it to see if I get traits I like?
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Re: IT is coming [Re: azur]
#22466206 - 11/02/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for answering all my questions bro, I feel like I learned a lot ha. Since that big mushroom was a clone, do you think if you had swabbed it's spores those would have had more of a chance to grow a lot of those or is that something you could only do on agar?
Going back to that, when you are trying to select a certain trait on your isolate, do you literally just grab a random piece, xfer it, grow it out and hope it's got traits you want? If not throw it out and try again but if some mushrooms show traits? For example, my GT only put out a few bell shaped caps, which is the main reason I got that variety, so I cloned one of them and am hoping for more, is my isolate likely to have bell shaped caps?
If you don't want this cluttering up your thread I can PM you or something, or I can just fuck off and bother somebody else lol
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Re: IT is coming [Re: the_r3dz]
#22466256 - 11/02/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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the_r3dz said: Thanks for answering all my questions bro, I feel like I learned a lot ha. Since that big mushroom was a clone, do you think if you had swabbed it's spores those would have had more of a chance to grow a lot of those or is that something you could only do on agar?
A swab from that particular clone would have reset the genetics. It is possible with 6 or 7 generations of cloning then swabbing then cloning then swabbing to lock in traits. But as i said, get the basics of cloning and isolating down first, then we can walk you though that.
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the_r3dz said: Going back to that, when you are trying to select a certain trait on your isolate, do you literally just grab a random piece, xfer it, grow it out and hope it's got traits you want? If not throw it out and try again but if some mushrooms show traits? For example, my GT only put out a few bell shaped caps, which is the main reason I got that variety, so I cloned one of them and am hoping for more, is my isolate likely to have bell shaped caps?
Yes, you take different pieces, but not random ones. You want fast growing and healthy ones. There's no telling what your isolate will do. You must grow it out. Your clone should carry those traits. Then you isolate off your master clone plate.
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the_r3dz said: If you don't want this cluttering up your thread I can PM you or something, or I can just fuck off and bother somebody else lol
While i understand all of this, I'm not the best at explaining it. I'm sure others will jump in. I recommend you purchase two books by Paul Stamets. The Mushroom Cultivator and Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms. Read them many times. You're not clogging up this thread. It's here to teach and learn. Please don't pm me. I get too much of that shit to the point that i occasionally turn off pm's
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Re: IT is coming [Re: azur]
#22466302 - 11/02/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why wasn't that clone slanted in the first place!?
Can't wait to see this grow play out!
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Well, idk why. It got transferred to a bunch of other plates and was given out to friends. I actually didn't give a shit about it. I achieved my goal and that's all i cared about. But I'm glad i still have her now.
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Re: IT is coming [Re: azur]
#22466480 - 11/02/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kind of like the monks who spend days on sand mandalas, then sweep them up as soon as they finish. I dig it..
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