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eco and forest conservation organizations?
    #22460596 - 11/01/15 05:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

is green peace a good organization?
would you mention some of the most reliable active non-corrupted organizations?


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Re: eco and forest conservation organizations? [Re: oontribe]
    #22460735 - 11/01/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You want to look for NGOs. Friends of the Earth, WWF, Earth First! 350 degrees - to name a few.
There are lots of conservation trusts that are often specific to a particular region or cause.

I can't say if Greenpeace are good organisation, their causes appear very good and they are well organised, however i'm not keen on their methods of fundraising - yes it's for a good cause but it's also for paying the wages of the fundraising teams on the street and phones whom tend to bug me, pretending to act selfless for a good cause when in actual fact they're getting paid (by the hour according to their job adverts, however it could well be a low wage + commision, i'm not sure.
It's great to see their direct action and demos though. Their boat Sea Sheppard for example.
Organisations should provide more transparency in regards to their money flows.


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Re: eco and forest conservation organizations? [Re: Driftwood]
    #22460790 - 11/01/15 07:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

thanks man...much appriciated


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Re: eco and forest conservation organizations? [Re: oontribe]
    #22460888 - 11/01/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It all happened in the 90's. Everyone is scared to death of actually doing something anymore ever since the feds used undercover to infiltrate the activist community. Immediately after that 9/11 happened and eco terrorists were pigeon holed as just that. Earth First! is still going but definitely doesn't have the same momentum as back then. It used to be that every single old growth timber sale was challenged by either Earth First, Cascadia Forest Defenders, Cascadia Forest Alliance, Hard Rain Alliance, and my organization Yaquina Forest Defense. Dozens of sensitive old growth forests were saved from harvest regeneration because of us anarchist groups.


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Re: eco and forest conservation organizations? [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #22460907 - 11/01/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Here's the end story of the last timber sale I worked on. This was one month after 9/11.


For more than three years forest protesters have blocked roads, lived in trees and swung from branches in opposition to the Eagle timber sale in the Mount Hood National Forest. But there has never been an accident like the one that happened last Saturday in the Gods Valley area of Tillamook State Forest.



At about 2 am, noted eco-activist Tre Arrow (whose real name is Michael Scarpitti) fell 60-some feet, from his perch to the ground. He had been hanging from trees in the Tillamook for approximately 45 hours while encircled by law enforcement on the ground. Unlike protesters in the Mount Hood National Forest, he had no platform and no hammock, and it is unclear how much food or water he had.



Scarpitti made headlines last year when he climbed the side of the U.S. Forest Service headquarters in downtown Portland and lived on a ledge for 11 days. In November 2000 he ran against U.S. Rep. Earl Blumenauer on the Green Party ticket.



Now he's in Emanuel Hospital with a fractured pelvis, broken ribs, a banged-up shoulder and a collapsed lung.



"We don't know where he started his fall," says Clatsop County Sheriff John Raichl, "but they heard the crashing. Even with the floodlights, it was dark. One of the deputies is an emergency medical technician and started working on him. He is very, very lucky to be alive."



At Eagle, the federal government owns the land; the timber owner is Vanport Manufacturing of Boring, which has been working to get out of the sale. Over the years, protesters and feds have clashed but sustained no serious injuries.



In Gods Valley, about 10 miles from Nehalem, the landowner is the state of Oregon. The timber owner, Christian Futures Inc., wants the trees.



"This is relatively new to us," says Raichl, who, along with Tillamook County Sheriff Todd Anderson, is responsible for law enforcement in the Tillamook. "We sent people to Eagle Creek to get training from the Forest Service and learn about the pods and all that."



Logging for the sale, called the Acey Line Thin, started last month. Portland activist group Cascadia Forest Alliance has occupied tree platforms in the area to block the cutting, but according to friends Scarpitti entered the forest Thursday after an activist on a platform radioed that the loggers were getting close.



According to Raichl, Scarpitti free-climbed up a Douglas fir, then jumped to another one to avoid a law-enforcement climber. Raichl had surrounding trees within 20 feet cut to block Scarpitti's escape route, but at about 10 pm he managed to swing to another tree about 30 feet away. It was from that tree he later fell.



In addition to Scarpitti, there have been 19 arrests over the last week relating to the protests. Bob Applegate, Gov. John Kitzhaber's spokesman, says the sales will not be canceled but the governor will review the incident with the Department of Forestry and the local sheriffs.



"He'll want to hear a discussion of how they plan to handle protests in the future," says Applegate, "and he wants to get more information on how they handled this one."


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Re: eco and forest conservation organizations? [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #22460914 - 11/01/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Didn't Greenpeace almost make the terrorist checklist at some point?


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Re: eco and forest conservation organizations? [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #22460942 - 11/01/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

passifloracaerulea said:
Here's the end story of the last timber sale I worked on. This was one month after 9/11.


For more than three years forest protesters have blocked roads, lived in trees and swung from branches in opposition to the Eagle timber sale in the Mount Hood National Forest. But there has never been an accident like the one that happened last Saturday in the Gods Valley area of Tillamook State Forest.



At about 2 am, noted eco-activist Tre Arrow (whose real name is Michael Scarpitti) fell 60-some feet, from his perch to the ground. He had been hanging from trees in the Tillamook for approximately 45 hours while encircled by law enforcement on the ground. Unlike protesters in the Mount Hood National Forest, he had no platform and no hammock, and it is unclear how much food or water he had.



Scarpitti made headlines last year when he climbed the side of the U.S. Forest Service headquarters in downtown Portland and lived on a ledge for 11 days. In November 2000 he ran against U.S. Rep. Earl Blumenauer on the Green Party ticket.



Now he's in Emanuel Hospital with a fractured pelvis, broken ribs, a banged-up shoulder and a collapsed lung.



"We don't know where he started his fall," says Clatsop County Sheriff John Raichl, "but they heard the crashing. Even with the floodlights, it was dark. One of the deputies is an emergency medical technician and started working on him. He is very, very lucky to be alive."



At Eagle, the federal government owns the land; the timber owner is Vanport Manufacturing of Boring, which has been working to get out of the sale. Over the years, protesters and feds have clashed but sustained no serious injuries.



In Gods Valley, about 10 miles from Nehalem, the landowner is the state of Oregon. The timber owner, Christian Futures Inc., wants the trees.



"This is relatively new to us," says Raichl, who, along with Tillamook County Sheriff Todd Anderson, is responsible for law enforcement in the Tillamook. "We sent people to Eagle Creek to get training from the Forest Service and learn about the pods and all that."



Logging for the sale, called the Acey Line Thin, started last month. Portland activist group Cascadia Forest Alliance has occupied tree platforms in the area to block the cutting, but according to friends Scarpitti entered the forest Thursday after an activist on a platform radioed that the loggers were getting close.



According to Raichl, Scarpitti free-climbed up a Douglas fir, then jumped to another one to avoid a law-enforcement climber. Raichl had surrounding trees within 20 feet cut to block Scarpitti's escape route, but at about 10 pm he managed to swing to another tree about 30 feet away. It was from that tree he later fell.



In addition to Scarpitti, there have been 19 arrests over the last week relating to the protests. Bob Applegate, Gov. John Kitzhaber's spokesman, says the sales will not be canceled but the governor will review the incident with the Department of Forestry and the local sheriffs.



"He'll want to hear a discussion of how they plan to handle protests in the future," says Applegate, "and he wants to get more information on how they handled this one."




I'm sorry but that's just funny.


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Re: eco and forest conservation organizations? [Re: Patlal]
    #22460945 - 11/01/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Greenpenis is a bunch of ineffectual morons who play the game that the corporations want them to play. Paul Watson departed from Greenpenis decades ago and started the Sea Shepard Society. They are actually doing some good and stopping asshole countries like Japan and the Faroese from killing endangered cetacean species.


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Re: eco and forest conservation organizations? [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #22461748 - 11/01/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You're welcome oontribe.
Hahaha, 'Greenpenis', quality. I think they are somewhat effectual at raising awareness about issues though.
Here's an interesting timeline of the supposed highlights of Greenpeace, WWF and Friends of the Earth: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/interactive/2011/sep/14/greenpeace-wwf-friends-of-earth

That was a great story passiflora, that's awesome that you were so involved in defending a forest. There have been a few recent-ish protest camps in Scotland. There was one called Mainshill wood (anti opencast coal mine) which lasted about a year or two until forceful eviction. Currently there's one called Bilston anti-bypass protest site which has lasted atleast 10 years thanks to a sort've legal loophole/rights which is protecting some nice ancient woodland and is practically a home to the protesting residents who live in wee wooden houses in trees and on the ground. There's also a longstanding anti-nuclear (warbase) protest camp called 'Faslane Peace Camp'. Good folk with good intentions misinterpreted by the general public and media it seems


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Re: eco and forest conservation organizations? [Re: Driftwood]
    #22465445 - 11/02/15 06:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

thanks guys...one must support a good organization and also help by changing himself!
if anyone know any other interesting organizations please recommend'em


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