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OfflineShroomslip
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Does every person have worth?
    #22460522 - 11/01/15 04:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think there's plenty of people who are absolutely worthless. There is a lot of criteria that could make me think such a thing and I really don't feel like going through examples or pointing out why I think that.. So let's just leave it at I think some people are totally worthless. What do you think? We're not discussing people that have a chance at redemption, for the sake of the question, we are talking only past and present.

Does even the worst of humanity have worth? Or is there some cutoff?

Also let's just skip the "fertilizer" and like comments. This is more about actions and thoughts. Can someone be scum and have worth to humanity? There are a few more I'd like to exclude for the sake of later argument, like being the world's biggest douche and showing others how NOT to be them. There are a lot of things along those lines and I couldn't sit here listing. Hopefully you get the general idea.

If you vote yes, explain why.
Does every human have worth?
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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22460581 - 11/01/15 05:38 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You are all over with this question.

But yes, everyone is worth.

Why?

Because even a sadistic murderer with no remorse for any of his actions, the lowest of scum, is worth.

Why?

Because in the end, even with all the killings, his existence itself is worth due to the fact that he needs to go through true judgement to truly be considered worthy or not.


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Chakanooga] * 3
    #22460586 - 11/01/15 05:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What?  I don't think you're expressing yourself clearly. 

Shroomslip: I voted "no".  There are irredeemable people in the world.


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OfflineShroomslip
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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Chakanooga]
    #22460588 - 11/01/15 05:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Chakanooga said:
You are all over with these question.




How so? If anything I'd say I'm pretty consistent. Most of the question threads I bring up deal with perception, personality and morality.

People fascinate me. I like knowing what makes people tick.

As far as I'm concerned, humanity in general is just one big research project.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22460629 - 11/01/15 06:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Worthles people are worth something to other worthless people.
Unless they're worthless hermits, in that case they're fucked.


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #22460637 - 11/01/15 06:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

All people are you in different lifetime, and this greater you is God Almighty.

Each and every person in exactly the life they lead are the inescapable outcome of cause and effect interacting with the laws of physics.

Each and every person is of infinite value to the universe, they are alll cogwheels in the giant machine. Remove one and the machine ceases to work.

Infinite value. Even cactus thieves.


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Chakanooga]
    #22460642 - 11/01/15 06:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Chakanooga said:
You are all over with this question.

But yes, everyone is worth.

Why?

Because even a sadistic murderer with no remorse for any of his actions, the lowest of scum, is worth.

Why?

Because in the end, even with all the killings, his existence itself is worth due to the fact that he needs to go through true judgement to truly be considered worthy or not.



What kind of judgement? you mean at the pearly gates?


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #22460647 - 11/01/15 06:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Many people are worthless. It sad but true.


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Asante]
    #22460680 - 11/01/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
All people are you in different lifetime, and this greater you is God Almighty.

Each and every person in exactly the life they lead are the inescapable outcome of cause and effect interacting with the laws of physics.

Each and every person is of infinite value to the universe, they are alll cogwheels in the giant machine. Remove one and the machine ceases to work.

Infinite value. Even cactus thieves.




Trying to get your meaning.
You mean like you remove one and you remove it all?
I don't see how our impermanent shells have value to
the universe.  Unless you're talking about our innermost
oneness with the All, in a Hermetic kinda sense.


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Hobozen]
    #22460711 - 11/01/15 06:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Everything is governed by cause and effects. We are effects and therefore causes. Remove one and you get a cascading error in the fabric of the universe.

Everything is connected with all things. Take one link away and the chain is broken.

Imagine a circle where each is the offspring of what came before and the parent what will be. Now imagine one of these being truly missing, you'd be left with nothing in one time cycle.


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Edited by Asante (11/01/15 07:01 AM)


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Shroomslip] * 3
    #22460718 - 11/01/15 07:03 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, a human body is worth approximately $160 in minerals.

http://www.datagenetics.com/blog/april12011/


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Asante]
    #22460737 - 11/01/15 07:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like something out of SG1 :grin:


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Sun King]
    #22460738 - 11/01/15 07:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I voted Yes. Why?

every person in existence is part of this 'Play', this 'Act'. Everyone plays a part that effects the entire 'Act'. Even a 40 year old fat man living in his mothers basement.
Even a police officer.

Most people, however, do not have 'Great' Purpose until they are very experience/older souls. Then they have the capacity to fuck shit up.

Most people are dispensable if that's what your asking, :lolsy:.
However, it is not in my path this life to dispense of anyone unless its an act of self defense.


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #22460751 - 11/01/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
All people are you in different lifetime, and this greater you is God Almighty.

Each and every person in exactly the life they lead are the inescapable outcome of cause and effect interacting with the laws of physics.

Each and every person is of infinite value to the universe, they are alll cogwheels in the giant machine. Remove one and the machine ceases to work.

Infinite value. Even cactus thieves.



he said it better than i would have tried

drop of the ocean is still the ocean


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: thelanzii]
    #22460757 - 11/01/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think so


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Oceanshore23Forest]
    #22460764 - 11/01/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yes. Because if nothing else they are worth the value of their organs on the black market.


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow]
    #22460773 - 11/01/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Ulfrick said:
Yes. Because if nothing else they are worth the value of their organs on the black market.



For fucks sake :doublefacepalm:

Who would want another humans organs, I mean, if your crippled to the point to where you need new organs, just fucking man up and die already.


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: thelanzii]
    #22460774 - 11/01/15 07:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Nemmies said:
Quote:

Asante said:
All people are you in different lifetime, and this greater you is God Almighty.

Each and every person in exactly the life they lead are the inescapable outcome of cause and effect interacting with the laws of physics.

Each and every person is of infinite value to the universe, they are alll cogwheels in the giant machine. Remove one and the machine ceases to work.

Infinite value. Even cactus thieves.



he said it better than i would have tried

drop of the ocean is still the ocean



what if it's a drop of piss?


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Asante]
    #22460782 - 11/01/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
Everything is governed by cause and effects. We are effects and therefore causes. Remove one and you get a cascading error in the fabric of the universe.

Everything is connected with all things. Take one link away and the chain is broken.

Imagine a circle where each is the offspring of what came before and the parent what will be. Now imagine one of these being truly missing, you'd be left with nothing in one time cycle.




Another question, what if it could regenerate its missing parts.  Kinda like how a new leaf
will grow if one is lost.  Unless a piece of the seed is missing, in that light I see how your
idea makes sense.  Using that analogy, couldn't our human bodies be seen as the leafs..
so if one is removed, all the info or w/e is still contained within the "cosmic seed", and so nothing
Is lost? :popcorn:


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Re: Does every person have worth? [Re: Sun King]
    #22460858 - 11/01/15 08:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Sun King said:
Yes, a human body is worth approximately $160 in minerals.

http://www.datagenetics.com/blog/april12011/





extraction of those minerals is more costly than the $160 they'd get, it's a poor
investment that renders some people as less than worthless


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