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Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs
    #22460322 - 11/01/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs


Written By Harley Brown October 30 2015, 11:05 AM ET


any people are experimenting with the drug ecstasy. I heard you say once that a lie is sweet in the beginning and bitter in the end, and truth is bitter in the beginning and sweet in the end. I have been meditating, but I don’t have the experiences people report from the drug ecstasy. Is the drug like the lie, and meditation the truth, or am I missing something that could really help me?” – Osho, Life: A Song, A Dance

It’s late September and very early morning at a warehouse rave in Bushwick. There are a lot of vast, empty concrete buildings in Brooklyn’s hippest enclave, but this one is special. Closer to a mini-festival than anything the borough has seen before, its indoor and outdoor stage will quite literally disappear at the end of the summer. Until then, thousands of dancers, music fans, and friends of friends in town for the weekend flock here to lock their hips to the visceral quakes of tribal, tech-house bass. Though most attendees are clandestine about the controlled substances they’ve brought to elevate the experience, pockets of people snort and lick various powders and crystals off of keys and palms of hands. For many it’s a practiced movement, followed by the flick of a lighter to blaze a cigarette — or a joint if the coast is clear. For some, though, it’s a complete novelty. “I can’t believe so many people are doing drugs out in the open,” says one first-timer, tracking with her telltale enlarged pupils a seemingly oblivious security guard moving through the crowd.

Like the quote above from Indian mystic Osho — which is also read in a woman’s Nicotine-lipped croon at the beginning of DJ Koze’s sublime house hypnosis, “XTC” — the relationship between drugs and dance music revolves around the search for the highest plane of existence, or some revelation about one’s self. Its history is at once sweet and bitter: One need only to look at the contrast between EDM festival aftermovies, featuring fields full of the beaming, painted faces of those making heart hand symbols at the DJ, and New York Times articles about those unfortunate attendees that took a wrong turn somewhere on the path paved with drugs in an attempt to reach that point of, well, ecstasy.

Ever since California chemist Alexander Shulgin synthesized the compound MDMA in a garden shed in his backyard just about 30 years ago — in the process becoming one of the first so-called “psychonauts” (users who actively seek out and try new drugs) — the universe of controlled substances available to those who want to expand, or lose, their minds is truly tentacular. Though ecstasy remains the controversial and most commonly used controlled substance of choice for those who want to go dancing all day and all night long, psychedelics, hallucinogens, ketamine, and all of their chemically synthesized legal alternatives have been growing in popularity for a number of years now. In a new world where ayahuasca, a projectile vomit-inducing vine, is suddenly the substance du jour for both the Hollywood elite and road-tripping Coachella pilgrims, what will be dance music’s future drug of choice?



Hazarding guesses on which mind-altering substances will be popular at future raves and festivals and in dance clubs depends on who — and what, exactly — you ask. “I have a completely, totally visionary answer for you, and I can give you a more practical answer based on trends,” says Stefanie Jones, nightlife community engagement manager of the Drug Policy Alliance, an organization that educates about and advocates for United States drug policy reform. Emphasizing that she’s speaking “off the cuff” (an assertion made by most U.S.-based interviewees, some of whom cite America’s rigid drug laws as reason to tread carefully when speaking about substances) she offers her predictions to SPIN over the phone.

Jones predicts that MDMA will continue to be as popular as it is because it’s a “warm, community-oriented, exploratory, relationship-building type of drug experience,” and psychedelics, such as LSD, will start trending again. A government-funded survey published this past July in The Guardian supports her claims: Among those 16 to 24 years old, ecstasy and LSD use has skyrocketed in the previous year by 84 percent and 175 percent, respectively. Though evidence cited here and presented in other articles, books, and studies points to the many more people using ecstasy derivatives than dropping acid, more and more people are finding hallucinogens increasingly appealing.

“We think that’s something to do with the Dark Web and the ease with which people can buy and post LSD blotters,” says Fiona Measham, a professor of criminology at the Durham University and a frequent talking head on drug-related matters in the U.K. (The Dark/Deep Web is to the Internet what dark matter is to the universe: a secretive parallel that requires special equipment, or in this case software, to access.) “It’s a drug that’s probably particularly suited for people making Internet purchases, as opposed to many other types of drugs.”

She speaks from extensive experience in the field, which includes decades of clubbing herself and persuading club-goers that she’s not a police officer so they’ll talk to her about their altered mindset. “We are seeing the beginning of a new wave of interest in psychedelics, which makes sense because it’s probably been a good 20 years since we’ve seen that in the U.K., and they all come in cycles anyway,” she adds; Jones further explains that the majority of popular drug usage cycled from LSD in the 1960s to cocaine in the ‘70s to LSD and MDMA in the ‘80s — and then the latter, really, since.

When Joseph Palamar, in many ways Measham’s stateside counterpart — he’s a professor of tobacco, alcohol, and drug studies at New York University’s Langone Institute — was grooving “every Sunday” to DJs like Junior Vasquez and Frankie Knuckles in the late ‘90s at famed New York nightclub Sound Factory, now Pacha, his peers were still popping pressed ecstasy tablets. The popularity of these wonder pills, writes Michaelangelo Matos in his recently published treatise on dance and electronic music, The Underground Is Massive, reached a zenith along with a resurgence of LSD in San Francisco in the very early ‘90s — nodding to Professor Measham’s hypothesis that, in the mid-2010s, the popularity of psychedelics will cycle back. “All these hippies loved seeing younger people taking psychedelics again,” Matos quotes publicist Gamall Awad as commenting on the Bay Area scene at the time. “It was all happening again in the same time and the same place.”

These days, however, the available LSD is often anything but its original formula, lysergic acid diethylamide. “Something that I’ve heard is that actual L-S-D doesn’t even exist anymore,” says Professor Palamar. Instead, according to both him and Professor Measham, there’s been a rash of users taking 251-NBOMe, a synthetic and technically lawful substitute that was recently spotlighted in a CNN special on new psychoactive substances, or NPS — such as drugs Americans might recognize as media chew toys bath salts and “meow meow” — that killed several people. (It should be noted that the network’s hour-long documentary inaccurately lumped MDMA and/or “molly” in this category, when it’s far more often chemically engineered substitutes to Shulgin’s original recipe that are responsible for the deaths.) In fact, Professor Palamar and Jones recently led a podcast on the hazards of these chemically engineered compounds, including synthetic marijuana, which in 2012 sent Demi Moore to the hospital with seizures after she smoked it. Like many drugs stirred up in laboratories in China, its toxicological properties can overwhelm the human system even when “dosed,” or taken in certain amounts, properly.

“The American war on drugs has created not only a market, but a motivation for both the sale and consumption of these drugs,” writes Michael Power in his 2013 book, Drugs Unlimited: The Web Revolution That’s Changing How the World Gets High. “If a drug user wanted to experience something akin to LSD without being jailed they could simply buy these neo-legal alternatives.” He speculates that part of the reason this may be the case, at least in the U.S., is the increase in the number of drug tests — which these new chemicals pass — that are given to athletes, medical school students, and those in the military. And, as SUNY Buffalo associate professor Michael R. Frone argues in his comprehensively researched treatise on the subject, Alcohol and Illicit Drug Use in the Workforce and Workplace, drug tests fail to “translate into modification of employees’ use of these substances.”

For a long time, the U.K.’s flagship synthetic drug of choice was mephedrone, or the aforementioned meow meow, which popped up on dance floors around the region. It’s a highly addictive alternative to MDMA that was engineered following what’s known as the Great MDMA Shortage of 2008, when the Cambodian government found and destroyed a cache of safrole oil, one of the primary ingredients in the party drug. The mass destruction of this illicit chemical coincided with an uptick in the availability of technically legal “party favors,” as some call them, that people could take to achieve the same effects as their illegal counterparts. Many of them, ironically, are also much more dangerous: In 2009, several users overdosed on a powerful amphetamine mislabeled as the psychedelic 2C-B-FLY that they had ordered online over the Dark Web.

To briefly illustrate the seemingly random alphabet soup of letters and numbers that comprise technically legal narcotics these days, here’s a list taken from Drugs Unlimited: JWH-018, AKB48, URB597… It goes on. Though more new chemicals are synthesized in labs around the world every day, Shulgin notes many of them in his comprehensive chronicles of psychedelic and psychoactive compounds — 1991’s PiKHAL and 1997’s TiHKAL, respectively — including 4-AcO-DMT, so relatively undiscovered it doesn’t even have a street name. In this lightly hallucinatory substance, Power sees potential for future festival-goers; before, once again, adamantly clarifying that his stance not be seen as an endorsement of these substances, but speculation and suggestion for one that might arise as an alternative to molly.

“It’s a slightly modified version of psilocybin, which is the active ingredient in magic mushrooms,” he tells SPIN over Skype. “4-AcO-DMT is a short-acting psychedelic which in high doses is completely obliterating and will send you into outer space, but in small doses it is — according to people I’ve spoken to; I’ve never done the drug myself — just like having a very clean and uncluttered version of magic mushrooms. It makes things look colorful and funny and you have a laugh. Toxicologically it’s very safe: it’s active at five or six milligrams. I’ve read reports of people who have done 100 or 200 milligrams by accident and suffered no ill effects. That’s not to recommend you do it, but if you did, you’d survive. You’d die if you did that with NPS.”

At least, it would be popular if most people at large musical events liked psychedelics, which aren’t as popular as ecstasy and its derivatives in that environment because there are too many uncontrollable factors — crowd size and density, for example — for such an intensely mind-altering drug. Like Measham and Palamar, Power predicts that MDMA will continue to be as embraced as it has been throughout the ages. Acknowledging that the substance has killed people because “it’s a drug; it’s not safe,” he says that its chemical makeup and effects make molly the ideal festival drug. “It lasts three or four hours, it makes you dance, hear the music wonderfully, it helps you feel a sense of closeness and connection with people and a lack of self-judgment.” Merely explaining its effects without endorsing it is obviously difficult (“I’m not evangelizing it, and I wouldn’t want my comments to presented in that light,” he says), but a slight analogy could be drawn to marijuana: While “overdoses” of weed derivatives like edibles haven’t directly caused anyone’s death, they have certainly caused significant psychological distress. At least ecstasy wouldn’t be mistaken for a candy bar.



The uncharted road to legalizing marijuana could serve as a template for regulating MDMA, which these days seems feasible within the loose 15- to 30-year time span in which future festival drugs might arise. Here’s where Jones’ “visionary” prediction might already be coming true — at least, in some European countries. She hopes that law-making and -enforcing bodies will eventually admit that people are always going to want to take drugs, so, “let’s just create something that provides that to them in a safer, less risky fashion,” she says. Initial reports that this year’s Amsterdam Dance Event (ADE) would allow attendees to carry on-person up to five ecstasy tablets without getting arrested were incorrect, but the organization is still notable for its attention to its safety and education measures that are still out of the question in the U.S.

One need only look at 2003’s RAVE Act, a widely criticized bill meant to reduce ecstasy-related deaths by categorizing all rave accessories, such as glow sticks and drug-testing kits, as drug accessories and therefore illegal. Because venue managers and festival promoters didn’t want to be penalized for offering attendees something like on-site counseling for someone going through a bad trip just in case they were hit with a fine for providing drug paraphernalia, the RAVE Act actually made situations more dangerous for drug-taking concertgoers by removing drug education and safety measures.

“It would have been unthinkable even 20 years ago to see a legal recreational cannabis market regulated and controlled for recreational use in the U.S.,” says Power. “I don’t think it’s unreasonable or unlikely to suspect that MDMA will become available, at least somewhere in the world, as a recreational drug. When used the right way, they can be remarkably safe compared to something like peanuts, for example.” The predominant opinion among those surveyed for this piece and interviewed elsewhere is that if pure MDMA were accessible to interested parties who were educated — perhaps by government-funded programs — users might be less likely to turn to the Dark Web’s black market of “legal” drugs that are actually far more lethal, especially when used in secret by people fearful of legal repercussions for their personal choices.

“My hope is that the U.S. re-examines the policies, that they’ll look to Europe and say, ‘That’s the model we’re going to be focusing on,’” says criminal defense attorney Cameron Bowman, a.k.a. the Festival Lawyer, who makes himself available to answer questions about relevant issues like the legality of drug testing kits. To him, the most interesting question is not which controlled substance of choice of future dance music fans will choose — be it ketamine, or 4-AcO-DMT, or new iterations of MDMA that arise, such as the extremely pure batches that have recently been observed in circulation — but what will happen to the controlled substance policy surrounding them. “The drugs are going to change depending on the music and the culture and the particular subculture,” he says. “On the one hand there is this move by some festivals to be realistic and say, ‘Some of our patrons are going to have this,’ and then on the other hand you got this very prohibitionist, reactive, increased-security approach.”




Then again, drugs might not be a priority for a growing minority of the dance population that wants to party a la the Loft’s non-alcoholic juice bars in the ‘80s (illustrated in books about the era such as The Underground Is Massive and Energy Flash); that is, clean. The past few years have seen a surge in early morning raves with more of a focus on exercise and well-being than transcending corporeally via narcotics. These several-hour dance parties feature fuzzy-booted ravers but also kale smoothies and good vibes, and have spread to cities like Washington, D.C. “There’s dance music events strictly focused on holistic healing that are yoga-based, aerobic-based featuring totally modern, contemporary dance music,” says DJ and producer Ted Krisko of Brooklyn-via-Detroit techno collective ATAXIA. “There was one at [New York club] Verboten that had hundreds of people doing yoga and aerobics and dancing with no drugs, alcohol, nothing of that sort being welcomed into that kind of atmosphere.”

For everyone, but especially the less sober among us about to rock (or rather, rave) under the influence, the future of drug policy and practice is much more uncertain. Movements like Amend the RAVE Act (which aims to increase drug safety and education, as opposed to venue and festival security), the widespread use of drug tests at Manchester’s regularly occurring nightly party the Warehouse Project, and the ADE’s changed ecstasy rules point to a more liberal future. Legislation may be changed to reflect that pills are going to be popped and lines snorted no matter how much jail time awaits, so we may as well make those substances as safe and their users as educated as possible. Regardless of the overarching legal framework, most people looking to get f**ked up in the future will probably continue to see molly — unless, of course, they’re tripping their faces off on 4-AcO-DMT. “That’s the first thing policymakers, and critics, and all of us have to understand,” says Powers. “People are doing it to get high and have fun. It’s not a blight on their life. They’re doing it just for kicks.”


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Re: Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs [Re: motaman]
    #22460816 - 11/01/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Decent article, i just wish it didnt highlight 4aco so much :P


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Re: Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs [Re: motaman]
    #22463044 - 11/01/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What is so morally wrong about using drugs "just for kicks" instead of using them for some sort of philosophical exploration?  I'd like to ask the author that question.  Is drinking alcohol "just for kicks" as wrong as taking an illegal drug?  Because I don't think so.


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Re: Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #22463952 - 11/01/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

the recreational value these things have is incredible, as well as the spiritual or the mind expanding properties they have as well.

I love them because I usually take it for recreational purposes but by the end of the night something magic has happened and im healed in many more ways than one to problems I didn't even know I had. or many other examples, theyre incredible.


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Re: Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs [Re: whitelights] * 1
    #22465506 - 11/02/15 06:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

"A very clean and uncluttered version of a mushroom trip"

Sounds awful, what the hell are kids today putting in their bodies?!


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Re: Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs [Re: whitelights]
    #22465514 - 11/02/15 06:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

honestly i dont think tryptamines are good "for kicks". psilocybin in social settings, (FOR ME) feels pretty out of place, and yeah i guess low doses can be fun, even just one tab. I feel like after a certain amount of experience with psychedelics though, one does realize theyre not "fun pleasure drugs" like coke, dope, and even MDMA to an extent.

"To fathom hell or soar angelic, take a pinch of psychedelic"
You might be accepted with open arms into the pearly wonderous gates and have the most pleasant experience of your life, or you can be subjected to loops of psychological hell (anyone familiar with ps4's "P.T"? Lol....horror trips) and if it were a regular "drug", even something like ketamine, they are way more predictable and generally more of a pleasure-seeking experience. Seeking pleasure with a psychedelic seems to be faulty logic to me, because, who the fuck knows? I mean, if youre in a good set/setting sure, but thats the difference. You can be rushing on non-psychedelics and have euphoric, fun times wherever you are. Set/setting dont really matter as much (psychologically at least! Because even with heroin, an unfamiliar set/setting can actually contribute to overdose!)

You think a clean uncluttered mushroom trip sounds awful? (Was prolly sarcasm lol) I actually find that 4aco happens to have an extremely high "divinity factor". Def higher than psilo and lsd, and getting very close to regular NN-DMT as far as that aspect goes (although in general its more like mushrooms than dmt, but it def reminds me of DMT way more than natural shrooms...i feel like at 30+mg youre in a very similar head space but of course you can still function...my experience at least)


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Re: Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs [Re: Fractal420]
    #22465532 - 11/02/15 07:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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You think a clean uncluttered mushroom trip sounds awful? (Was prolly sarcasm lol) I actually find that 4aco happens to have an extremely high "divinity factor". Def higher than psilo and lsd, and getting very close to regular NN-DMT as far as that aspect goes (although in general its more like mushrooms than dmt, but it def reminds me of DMT way more than natural shrooms...i feel like at 30+mg youre in a very similar head space but of course you can still function...my experience at least)




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Re: Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs [Re: Turtletotem] * 1
    #22467180 - 11/02/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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No sarcasm, it would be like sex but without all the smells and fluids, or excersize without the aching muscles and sweating, or playing music without effort...




I dunno about you, but when I picked up a conch shell for the first time, I got a ton of pleasure when I was able to blow with the force of a thousand winds, creating a bellow that would summon the gods or lead men to victory.

In fact, all of those things you list sound fantastic. I appologize that we all live in a world where those things aren't the norm. Let me find a Conch shell and I'll get right on fixing those things.


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Re: Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs [Re: QT3BFLEE]
    #22467191 - 11/02/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs [Re: Sham87] * 2
    #22468761 - 11/02/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

These days, however, the available LSD is often anything but its original formula, lysergic acid diethylamide. “Something that I’ve heard is that actual L-S-D doesn’t even exist anymore,”
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Re: Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22469289 - 11/03/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

People bring their acid to me for testing sometimes.
I've never even seen real LSD in my life, people sometimes think I'm full of shit with my test kits, because it is always some RC.


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    #22469648 - 11/03/15 06:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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People bring their acid to me for testing sometimes.
I've never even seen real LSD in my life, people sometimes think I'm full of shit with my test kits, because it is always some RC.




My friend who works the test tent here has never seen fake LSD.


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    #22469862 - 11/03/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Damn, luckyyyy!


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Re: Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22469955 - 11/03/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

We must have always been lucky. LSD-25 is what we took. Another possibility is the source was from a west coast connection and the people were all deadheads. I can never remember getting anything other than high quality tabs and vials.


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Re: Ecstasy, Fake LSD, and Sort-Of Magic Mushrooms: The Future of Dance Music’s Drugs [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22489178 - 11/07/15 03:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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People bring their acid to me for testing sometimes.
I've never even seen real LSD in my life, people sometimes think I'm full of shit with my test kits, because it is always some RC.




My friend who works the test tent here has never seen fake LSD.




Works in a test tent and never came across 25i-nbome? Which was in 60% or so of blotter up until like a year ago? Just recently someone tried to show me some blotter, which was really big and had "DOC DOC DOC DOC" written all over the back lol. These days real LSD is def alive and kicking (although, i do wonder what 1p-LSD being so abundant will do to that supply? The methylone/25i effect) but i am surprised to hear that a person doing field tests (im assuming for parties?) would never have come across non-LSD blotter. Just curious, what was the way they tested it? Marquis amd Ehlrich?


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